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New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. 7
#23511255 - 08/04/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I intend to post pics on this thread of those three species. This thread is a continuation of "Liberty cap allies fruiting in Australia in Summer" thread. Since more information is available about these species I figure the former title of this thread is misleading for the following reasons.
They have a name now. P.tasmaniana

Thanks to Inski, Alan Rockefeller, TimmiT, Jan Borovicka and Alvalab.es.
Season: Late November- middle of July. Fruits best March and April.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 2
#23511263 - 08/04/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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P.alutacea.

Thanks to Inski and Alan Rockefeller.
Season: First found late January this year. Has fruited every month including August.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 2
#23511271 - 08/04/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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P.papuana.

Thanks to Inski. I hope Alan Rockefeller gets a chance to look at these specimens when he studies his collection from section Cordisporae later this year.
Season : first found late April and in May.
This could not be called a liberty cap ally because it lacks one of the most distinctive features of P.smilanceata. It doesn't have a gelatinous pellicle. The cap feels like velvet to the touch on fresh specimens.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511277 - 08/04/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could you outline. Growing conditions,substrate, microclimate Very interesting.
-------------------- Bunya cones kill.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511296 - 08/04/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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After the recent rain event a couple of days ago in which we scored in excess of 100mm of rain, I decided to go for a long walk.
I first checked next door and found some P.alutacea fruiting.

Okay Bunya I'll start with P.alutacea after the images posts. Then do the others later. I'm on solar power so it will take a bit longer since I have to turn my computer off after posting these images. Cloudy wet weather is good for mushrooms. No good for solar however.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511310 - 08/04/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511360 - 08/04/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I then walked a couple of km down to town and checked out the brumby paddocks. Nothing as usual in spite of the wet conditions and horse dung everywhere.
On the way back I walked up a gentle slope in a field. Near the top I spotted some P.alutacea fruiting on old horse dung. The wind was like ice blowing up the hill from the South.
Image 1 showing habitat Image 2 terrain.

I can now throw out my theory about these P.alutacea needing a substrata of blackbutt leaves under the horse dung. The only few close trees were wattles. P.alutacea images to follow.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511370 - 08/04/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Too lit bro... 

Thank you brother!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511377 - 08/04/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heyowana said: P.papuana.

These are my favorite species of yours, just wow, simply wow... Looks like something I would love to devour.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511395 - 08/05/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very nice.. subbed.. love these pics. Keep it up Heyowana.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511396 - 08/05/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Hashed. You guys from NZ should start up a thread highlighting all the rarer Psilocybe species. They end up hidden in the actives thread with the multitude of P.subaeruginosa. New Zealand has the coolest ones out and they deserve more attention.
I have to agree they are my favourite as well those P.papuana. They are potent. There was a photo on the NZ actives thread from this year showing some P.aucklandiae with a very similar look to them. Inski tells me P.papuana are different to zapotecorum because of the spore shape.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511400 - 08/05/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Adden. I'd like to make this more of a photo thread and leave my dysfunctional theories back in the other thread. It gets the better of me though. I need to stay focused. Always had trouble with that one.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511414 - 08/05/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah brother, NZ does have some fucking sexy species, I ain't gonna lie... P. weraroa, P. subsecotioides and P. makarorae to name a few that are native to NZ and no where else.  I can't think of any more exclusively NZ ones ATM...
But Aussie is on par with NZ for active species, and you are a fool if you state otherwise.  Ya'll got P. papuana P. cubensis and Pan. cyanescens NZ don't... I don't know much about P. papuana, but P. cubensis and Pan. cyanescens are not just in Aussie ofc, so what some species are native to only Aussie???
I wonder how P. papuana would match up to P. aucklandiae in potency, they look like great contestants to match the potency of P. aucklandiae...
You know you Aussie got P. aucklandiae aswell... Right?
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
#23511757 - 08/05/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inski was saying that he doesn't think P.aucklandiae occurs in Australia. All the threads he linked me to when I first found P.papuana ended up having a P.papuana ID instead of P.aucklandiae.
Don't forget some of the other species that have been found in NZ. P.aztecorum, P.alutacea, P.tasmaniana and of course (P.ovoideocystidiata. )
You guys are way in front of us. You have all our native ones. I'd be surprised if P.papuana doesn't show up. I don't think its a fluke that I've found 3 rare species all in a small area together. Now in the future who knows? Australia is a large place with plenty of coastline to have favourable moist conditions for Psilocybe species to grow.
I feel a bit nasty not answering the post at the top of the page asking about growing conditions, micro climate etc. I guess I could give the pages in "Liberty cap allies fruiting in Australia in Summer" that deal with it. I'm pretty slack and can't expect others to be any better than myself.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511774 - 08/05/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heyowana said: Inski was saying that he doesn't think P.aucklandiae occurs in Australia.
I remember seeing either a thread or threads of P. aucklandiae in ozzy, unless I'm horribly mistaken, I'll have to dig them up.
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Heyowana said: Don't forget some of the other species that have been found in NZ. P.aztecorum, P.alutacea, P.tasmaniana and of course (P.ovoideocystidiata. )
I'm not 100% on P. aztecorum, I think a user by the name of jacksirius found them, but they might have just been P. makarorae I'll have to look back at those ones I'm not entirely sure, but you seriously got me at P. ovoideocystidiata in all seriousness, P. ovoideocystidiata do not occur here.
jacksirius also has interesting P. subsecotioides cultivation pics!
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Heyowana said: You guys are way in front of us. You have all our native ones.
Untrue, we don't have cubes and pans.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Hashed]
#23511805 - 08/05/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read the NZ thread when you had your bottom smacked for asking questions about ovoids in NZ.
The P.aztecorums he was saying had verification from a noted NZ mycologist. They showed the white bleaching of the caps. Now maybe they were P.pseudoaztecorum.
P.cubensis and Copelandia cyanescens are not an Australian native. You aren't missing much not having them in NZ. Honestly all the hype about P.cubensis is just that. Even mountain P.subaeruginosa are stronger and may I dare say more spiritual. Goldtops are okay if you haven't had any other magic mushrooms.
Copelandia cyanescens is potent I admit. They are dirty and mean in effect at high dosages. Not for me these days. There are way better mushrooms around quality wise. Still think NZ should start a thread highlighting all those rarer actives that were found last season. Just to have them all together without all those boring old subs getting in the way on every page.
We are worse here. It's just about 100% P.subaeruginosa on the Autumn/ Winter thread. Then come Summer P.cubensis, Copelandia cyanescens and to a lesser degree Pan. cinctulus. Better go before the power runs out. Enjoy the chat with you Hashed.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23511958 - 08/05/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe the NZ P.aztecorum were variety bonetii. They have smaller spores and fruit at lower elevations. Interesting that Alan Rockefeller sequenced P.tasmaniana at 99% like P.baeocystis. That species being in the aztecorum complex. I guess P.tasmaniana is interesting and unique not only in its blissful euphoric effect.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23512040 - 08/05/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yer doing yeoman's work, Heyowana. good stuff and thanks for posting; it never gets old and is interesting to me even if i don't type it.
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