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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: blackdust]
    #23541551 - 08/14/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23541838 - 08/14/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks pasty looking forward to seeing it. Plan to try myself soon. I only have jar lids with 4 holes. Wonder if I could polyfil all the holes and make center holes.


If this is the real deal, I won't need my PF jar lids as this will take the new place of that.




I would just throw non porous tape over the holes or dabs of silicone. Or just get new lids. But I think the benifit of one hole in the center is less contamination worries, considering no verm layer. And also you know for certain that the center will be fully colonized.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23541975 - 08/14/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've been having some real pain in the ass issues with PF tek this last go. My sterile procedure hasn't changed, yet I'm getting pink molds, blue, green, black...

I've noticed when I pull the needle out, a good bit of PF mix comes with it. Leading me to believe some BRF is getting mixed in the dry Verm layer, contaminating, and giving me bad jars.

I previously used the tall jars, never had issues. got wide mouths short fat ones, and been having a tough time. Trying to source the problem.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23542741 - 08/15/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I only had 2.5 qts wbs after the soak, went ahead and prepped 23 cakes in the mini rounds I have.....goin to use munch's blenderless LI and see how it goes


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23543797 - 08/15/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks pasty looking forward to seeing it. Plan to try myself soon. I only have jar lids with 4 holes. Wonder if I could polyfil all the holes and make center holes.


If this is the real deal, I won't need my PF jar lids as this will take the new place of that.




I would just throw non porous tape over the holes or dabs of silicone. Or just get new lids. But I think the benifit of one hole in the center is less contamination worries, considering no verm layer. And also you know for certain that the center will be fully colonized.



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I've been having some real pain in the ass issues with PF tek this last go. My sterile procedure hasn't changed, yet I'm getting pink molds, blue, green, black...

I've noticed when I pull the needle out, a good bit of PF mix comes with it. Leading me to believe some BRF is getting mixed in the dry Verm layer, contaminating, and giving me bad jars.

I previously used the tall jars, never had issues. got wide mouths short fat ones, and been having a tough time. Trying to source the problem.




There could be several reasons your mix is sticking to the needle.

Check the needle to see if the tip may be slightly bent, also if you're flaming your needle and then sticking it in the cake whilst it is still hot, your cooking your substrate right on to your needle.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23546184 - 08/16/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Inoculated my cakes this morning.....used less than 6ml to inoculate them, I'm curious to see how long they take to colonize.....will keep updating


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23568036 - 08/23/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Inoculated my cakes this morning.....used less than 6ml to inoculate them, I'm curious to see how long they take to colonize.....will keep updating




That is quite a bit.

What kind of temperature are you incubating at?


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: george castanza]
    #23568193 - 08/23/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have a feeling he means less than 6 ml for the cakes as a whole, not each one individually

Edit. On another note just found out where to buy millet on its own.
Just waiting on a liquid culture. Looking forward to this one.
Gunna do 6 kramer cakes and gunna toss in a little experiment with my other 6 jars.
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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: george castanza]
    #23568232 - 08/23/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I actually only used about 4 ml....I made 6ml to be safe I didn't know how much LI I'd need...  and my room stays at 72°F.....most of my mini rounds are a day or two away from being colonized....do I let them consolidate for a week like brf cakes? My plan is to case with a little verm/coir and top fruit them in a sgfc....going to try to keep them from side pinning by setting the mini rounds down into the perlite....


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23595653 - 08/30/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have never had much luck top fruiting cakes myself, but if that's they way you have had success in the past I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: george castanza]
    #23595665 - 08/30/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well I got me 14 Kramer style cakes in pp5 ziplocs nearly done. Gonna consolidate them extra long just in case. Then I am gonna birth, dunk n roll some and top fruit some pod style. This will be my second grow of the year so I is happy. They are looking pretty happy so far. Moisture content of the millet and verm must be bang on. I noticed less burst grains than I usually see with straight millet too.


Using the unmodified lids in PP5 I was able to knock up a few with wedges and shook em around well. Those are proving almost as fast as the LC.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23595698 - 08/30/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Cool tek! Thanks for sharing man!  :sunny:


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23597285 - 08/31/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well I got me 14 Kramer style cakes in pp5 ziplocs nearly done. Gonna consolidate them extra long just in case. Then I am gonna birth, dunk n roll some and top fruit some pod style. This will be my second grow of the year so I is happy. They are looking pretty happy so far. Moisture content of the millet and verm must be bang on. I noticed less burst grains than I usually see with straight millet too.


Using the unmodified lids in PP5 I was able to knock up a few with wedges and shook em around well. Those are proving almost as fast as the LC.




I'm assuming you're using pe. I have never attempted to fruit pe as cakes, so I'm extra interested to see the results.:sherlock:

I always let pe consolidate for about two weeks before I spawn it to bulk.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: george castanza]
    #23597294 - 08/31/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not sure if it's PE or not. But it might be, I did make a fair amount of PE LC's. But it could be RW or wikidzon as well cause I made a butt load of those. The label on the jar got wipes off so I have no idea. Should be fun lol.


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23639899 - 09/12/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The cakes are getting that consolidated look. I decided to fruit 4 rolled in verm in a mono, then top fruit 3 cased with coir verm in a mono.

Also have 6 that were done in taller pp5s. A couple of them were inoculated with agar wedges and given the shakability of these allowed for some speedy colonization.

I did notice they don't knit up quite as tight as brf. Takes on water fast so a long dunk definitely not needed. A little care was needed when handling.

Excited tho, this is only my second cube grow of the year.






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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23640126 - 09/12/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Woot! :congrats: :rockon: Excited to see your next update.  Why is it only your second grow of the year? I have already caught the bug, and don't know how I will ever go that long lol. :trippinballs: Just over stocked?

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The cakes are getting that consolidated look. I decided to fruit 4 rolled in verm in a mono, then top fruit 3 cased with coir verm in a mono.

Also have 6 that were done in taller pp5s. A couple of them were inoculated with agar wedges and given the shakability of these allowed for some speedy colonization.

I did notice they don't knit up quite as tight as brf. Takes on water fast so a long dunk definitely not needed. A little care was needed when handling.

Excited tho, this is only my second cube grow of the year.









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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23640127 - 09/12/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I open air fruited these ....the others where spawned to a mini mono...but I think I should've used all of them because it's been almost 2 weeks and I’m starting to see patches of myc pop through the casing....


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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23650838 - 09/16/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I open air fruited these ....the others where spawned to a mini mono...but I think I should've used all of them because it's been almost 2 weeks and I’m starting to see patches of myc pop through the casing....




Open air fruiting!?!! :headbanger:

I've routinely gotten five and even six flushes out of a Kramer cake, so don't toss them until they contaminat, or are done. You can tell when they are done because they won't take on anymore water when you dunk and they get really light. I always give em a 12hr dunk between flushes.

Also if you suspect any contamination you should be very careful when handling the cake because they will literally crumble into thousands of pieces and sometimes even seem to explode when you pick them up. I always handle suspect cakes by taking a plastic grocery bag and using it kind of like a glove, turn it inside out and grab up the cake with the tinfoil or lid or whatever it's sitting on in the chamber so as to contain it if it's a crumbler. When I pick them up I turn the bag over and give them a gentle squeeze, don't squeeze it any harder than you would a nice c cup tittie, just a gentle, firm, loving squeeze. If the cake feels solid it has more shrooms in it, if it is super spongy feeling it's probably spent, if it crumbles up go ahead and tie the bag off and toss it.

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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: george castanza]
    #23650931 - 09/16/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23651065 - 09/16/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This looks very interesting :takingnotes:

Did I understand that these are shake-able as well??

I could imagine very fast colonisation if that was the case.

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