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Re: LNC [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23512418 - 08/05/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think the tryamine could definitely be a contributing factor or maybe even the full reason for some people to get headaches from cacti, but a lot of people also get them from the extracted or synthetic sulfate or hydrochloride form of mesc which makes it seem that the mescaline itself causes headaches in people as well


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512435 - 08/05/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe it's just cuz of the long ride, it can be pretty exhausting
Edit: Exactly why we need people researching on these things lol  :sanpedro:


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Re: LNC [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23512467 - 08/05/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt it's cuz of the long ride cuz most people don't get headaches from DO(x) drugs which can last a lot longer. Actually the reason why mescaline isn't being used in cluster headache research like LSD & psilocybin are is because it's been found to cause headaches instead of treat them

Maybe a thresh-hold dose of L or mushrooms combined with mesc trips would help prevent them


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512534 - 08/05/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What i'm gonna do as my Tek for keeping the side-fx at bay when I do mesc, is i'm gonna take some aspirin & 500mg of ginger root in the morning along with a bunch of coconut water & water, maybe a fruit smoothie that's easy on the stomach. Give it all 45 minutes to absorb into the system and settle in my stomach, then slowly ingest half my dose of mescaline with another 500mg of ginger root over 5 minutes, and 30 minutes later do the same with the rest of the mesc and a final 500mg of ginger. Then about 15 minutes after that i'll take like 20ug of LSD.

I'll have an eigth of weed on hand incase I need it at any point, but probably won't. Seems like it'd be a pretty solid way to keep any potential nausea or head-throbbing from getting too bothersome.


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Re: LNC [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23512813 - 08/05/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Errr...I wasn't insinuating that all cacti is mescaline :facepalm:
I was pointing out that there is something that is found in these plants that is also found in other things linked to causing migraines.

So uh, if it's not the tyramine which is linked to headaches...then what is it koods? Would you mind telling us what it is koods? :awenuhuh:



I don't know. There are a lot of orally active compounds in cactus, so I'm not really sure why you pick one that has no oral activity.


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512852 - 08/05/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the tryamine could definitely be a contributing factor or maybe even the full reason for some people to get headaches from cacti, but a lot of people also get them from the extracted or synthetic sulfate or hydrochloride form of mesc which makes it seem that the mescaline itself causes headaches in people as well




200 mg of oral tyramine has no effect on a human. The reason tyramine has no effect when you eat it is exactly the same reason DMT has no effect when to you eat it - it is destroyed by monoamine oxidase that coats your GI tract.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228083955_Estimates_of_maximum_tolerable_levels_of_tyramine_content_in_foods_in_Austria


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Re: LNC [Re: koods]
    #23512863 - 08/05/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If cacti gives you a headache, will coffee work to relieve it?


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512881 - 08/05/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've never heard of cacti causing headaches :shrug:


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Re: LNC [Re: nooneman]
    #23512940 - 08/05/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/781651_3

Just googling mescaline headache will give you tons of other reports of it happening as well, sometimes lasting for days. It's often felt as a more throbbing type of pain than otherwise


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512952 - 08/05/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23512962 - 08/05/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Huh, I had no idea! Good to know :thumbup:


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Re: LNC [Re: nooneman]
    #23512968 - 08/05/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder if a person used extracted mescaline in a powder form if it would still cause headaches.


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Re: LNC [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #23513002 - 08/05/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, I've never done mescaline and was going to give it a try but now that I read the stuff about headaches i might just never try it


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Re: LNC [Re: goop]
    #23513027 - 08/05/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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FreeTheSoul said:
I wonder if a person used extracted mescaline in a powder form if it would still cause headaches.



Yea theres hella reports of that happening

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Damn, I've never done mescaline and was going to give it a try but now that I read the stuff about headaches i might just never try it



i think as long as u take precautions and preventative measures the lemon would be worth the squeeze for most. not everybody gets them anyway, everybody's different. i plan on trying it still, just gonna have some aspirin & naproxin on deck along with some weed nd a buncha ginger. most find mesc still worth doing & an amazing experience


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Re: LNC [Re: goop]
    #23513045 - 08/05/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Damn, I've never done mescaline and was going to give it a try but now that I read the stuff about headaches i might just never try it



Shrooms  ave gave me a head ache from the change in blood pressure


That Is no reason to toss it to the curb 
Its a side effect


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Re: LNC [Re: Sheekle]
    #23513054 - 08/05/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sheekle you need to chill,  it's like you are almost slandering mescaline and cacti


Some psychedelics change blood pressure , and that can cause headaches


Its a possible side effect, that's no reason to rant n rave about how mescaline is gonna make it's next user have a 2 day  migraine


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Re: LNC [Re: SunnyD]
    #23513079 - 08/05/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sheekle you need to chill,  it's like you are almost slandering mescaline and cacti


Some psychedelics change blood pressure , and that can cause headaches


Its a possible side effect, that's no reason to rant n rave about how mescaline gonna make have a 2 day  migraine



I'm flipping out man someone give me some crack to level me out


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    #23513096 - 08/05/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sheekle you need to chill,  it's like you are almost slandering mescaline and cacti


Some psychedelics change blood pressure , and that can cause headaches


Its a possible side effect, that's no reason to rant n rave about how mescaline gonna make have a 2 day  migraine



I'm flipping out man someone give me some crack to level me out



You need some plugged MXE


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Re: LNC [Re: SunnyD]
    #23513389 - 08/05/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno. I think what sheekle is doing with the ginger is interesting. It could help narrow down if the headaches some of us get are a result of the NATURAL physical side effects on functions like the circulatory system.

Sheekle, I don't know if you want to but you could do a control in a sense. Like try the mescaline without taking the ginger and stuff to see if you get a headache.

I only say that because migraines/headaches are triggered by different things across individuals and some folks are definitely more susceptible to them.
I get a headache from most drugs but I've been getting migraines since I was a kid.

All the possibilities :excellent:


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Re: LNC [Re: SunnyD]
    #23514530 - 08/05/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You need some plugged MXE


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