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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Female privilege? [Re: pachoo] * 2
    #23514471 - 08/05/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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pachoo said:
You should make an opposite list where the negatives of females are changed to male, Crystal.


Except I have cried out of a speeding ticket. I have been pulled over 12 times and I only got one ticket, only once did I cry though. My mother said it is because I look absolutely frazzled and innocent. She's never gotten off that way. :lol:




That ticket thing would never work for me.

Here are a few I came up with off the top of my head, I'm sure I can think of more, this is just what I thought of in the past 15 minutes.

1. Being held to an impossibly high standard as a parent, moms who make 1 mistake are demonized while men who do 1 thing right, even if it's something as simple as changing a diaper or going to their kid's PTA meeting, is seen as a celebrated hero dad.

2. Being stalked, robbed, or raped because you're seen as an "easy" target.

3. Women are expected to give up their careers and be a domestic slave, essentially (for no pay too by the way), once they get married or have kids. If she ever gets pregnant, she will be the one expected to stay at home and spend all those sleepless nights changing diapers and feeding the baby, even if she is the one that makes more money than him. And that is regardless of whether she wants to be the primary stay at home parent or not.

4. The privilege of not being judged by your entire sex for making a mistake. Nobody will say "Oh, he didn't do his job right because he's a man." And just remember that virtually all fields are still rife with some form of misogyny.

5. The privilege of being seen in politics, and not having your gender work against you in powerful positions. 90% of politicians are still male, and 10% of Americans say they still would not vote for a female politician.

6. Women are expected to be the ones responsible for birth control, even though that very same birth control comes with numerous side effects that are hazardous for mental and physical health. So basically we are expected to go on medicine that harms our health, and lowers our sex drive, all so men can raw-dog us.

7. Men have the privilege to speak with authority, and still be respected, while a woman who does the same is seen as "bossy" or "bitchy."

8. Men aren't judged by their appearance nearly as much. Basically, as long as men wear a clean shirt, and have combed hair, he is fine in the looks department and can go about the world this way. Women on the other hand, have to shave, bleach their facial hair, and wear makeup, and do all this other time-consuming shit in order to look acceptable.

9. Male fashion is free-flowing and comfortable. Women's fashion is restrictive, allows for limited range of mobility, and serves to make us weaker and more vulnerable. High heels, fake nails, mini skirts, the list goes on and on...

10. Having a child hurts only women in their careers, while men continue to improve in their careers despite having children. This is proven even in statistics, regarding a man vs woman's pay after each child.

11. Female victims are often shamed and blamed, while the male perpetrators are seen as "just being men" for acting on their innate aggression or perversion.

12. Female gold-diggers are heavily shamed, while the very same men who exploit and use them as sex objects, nobody seems to criticize.

13. Women cheaters are heavily criticized and shamed, while male cheaters are kind of seen as funny, and people are more willing to cover for a male cheater.

14. Men can get gray hair, or get fat, or age any way they wish. Men can have no hair on their heads, or have massive bushes all over their legs and back, while women who don't shave are seen as disgusting or unhygienic.

Etc.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23514478 - 08/05/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Female privilege does not exist outside of the troubled imaginations of desperate men




This statement supports #16.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23514485 - 08/05/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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pachoo said:
You should make an opposite list where the negatives of females are changed to male, Crystal.


Except I have cried out of a speeding ticket. I have been pulled over 12 times and I only got one ticket, only once did I cry though. My mother said it is because I look absolutely frazzled and innocent. She's never gotten off that way. :lol:




That ticket thing would never work for me.

Here are a few I came up with off the top of my head, I'm sure I can think of more, this is just what I thought of in the past 15 minutes.

1. Being held to an impossibly high standard as a parent, moms who make 1 mistake are demonized while men who do 1 thing right, even if it's something as simple as changing a diaper or going to their kid's PTA meeting, is seen as a celebrated hero dad.

2. Being stalked, robbed, or raped because you're seen as an "easy" target.

3. Women are expected to give up their careers and be a domestic slave, essentially (for no pay too by the way), once they get married or have kids.

4. The privilege of not being judged by your entire sex for making a mistake. Nobody will say "Oh, he didn't do his job right because he's a man." And just remember that virtually all fields are still rife with some form of misogyny.

5. The privilege of being seen in politics, and not having your gender work against you in powerful positions. 90% of politicians are still male, and 10% of Americans say they still would not vote for a female politician.

6. Women are expected to be the ones responsible for birth control, even though that very same birth control comes with numerous side effects that are hazardous for mental and physical health. So basically we are expected to go on medicine that harms our health, and lowers our sex drive, all so men can raw-dog us.

7. Men have the privilege to speak with authority, and still be respected, while a woman who does the same is seen as "bossy" or "bitchy."

8. Men aren't judged by their appearance nearly as much. Basically, as long as men wear a clean shirt, and have combed hair, he is fine in the looks department and can go about the world this way. Women on the other hand, have to shave, bleach their facial hair, and wear makeup, and do all this other time-consuming shit in order to look acceptable.

9. Male fashion is free-flowing and comfortable. Women's fashion is restrictive, allows for limited range of mobility, and serves to make us weaker and more vulnerable. High heels, fake nails, mini skirts, the list goes on and on...

10. Having a child hurts only women in their careers, while men continue to improve in their careers despite having children. This is proven even in statistics, regarding a man vs woman's pay after each child.

11. Female victims are often shamed and blamed, while the male perpetrators are seen as "just being men" for acting on their innate aggression or perversion.

12. Female gold-diggers are heavily shamed, while the very same men who exploit and use them as sex objects, nobody seems to criticize.

13. Women cheaters are heavily criticized and shamed, while male cheaters are kind of seen as funny, and people are more willing to cover for a male cheater.

14. Men can get gray hair, or get fat, or age any way they wish. Men can have no hair on their heads, or have massive bushes all over their legs and back, while women who don't shave are seen as disgusting or unhygienic.

Etc.





The fact that men have some of the privileges you listed (some of which I would argue against if I was in the mood) does not imply that women do not have privileges too.  Both men and women can have their own privileges.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23514488 - 08/05/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Celestial Traveler said:

The fact that men have some of the privileges you listed (some of which I would argue against if I was in the mood) does not imply that women do not have privileges too.  Both men and women can have their own privileges.




Please refer to my earlier statement, I was only listing some male privileges since another member asked me for some off the top of my head

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Look, I'll acknowledge the fact that female privilege exists in certain aspects--like for example, the fact that police usually don't tend to see us as criminals, and therefore usually don't profile us or target us, unless it looks like we're street prostitutes or something. But to say that these above quoted statements are "privileges" is absurd.





I mean, if you're going to cite female privilege, at least mention legitimate privileges, such as conscription or being drafted in the military or something.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23514491 - 08/05/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
I expect that many men who have been raped by a woman are so attached to their privilege that they would never compromise it by confessing their victimization by a member of the "subordinate" sex.





hahaha.... do they have a handy "retarded quotes for progressives" book that you copy this shit from?


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23514502 - 08/05/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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pachoo said:
You should make an opposite list where the negatives of females are changed to male, Crystal.


Except I have cried out of a speeding ticket. I have been pulled over 12 times and I only got one ticket, only once did I cry though. My mother said it is because I look absolutely frazzled and innocent. She's never gotten off that way. :lol:




That ticket thing would never work for me.

Here are a few I came up with off the top of my head, I'm sure I can think of more, this is just what I thought of in the past 15 minutes.

1. Being held to an impossibly high standard as a parent, moms who make 1 mistake are demonized while men who do 1 thing right, even if it's something as simple as changing a diaper or going to their kid's PTA meeting, is seen as a celebrated hero dad.

2. Being stalked, robbed, or raped because you're seen as an "easy" target.

3. Women are expected to give up their careers and be a domestic slave, essentially (for no pay too by the way), once they get married or have kids. If she ever gets pregnant, she will be the one expected to stay at home and spend all those sleepless nights changing diapers and feeding the baby, even if she is the one that makes more money than him. And that is regardless of whether she wants to be the primary stay at home parent or not.

4. The privilege of not being judged by your entire sex for making a mistake. Nobody will say "Oh, he didn't do his job right because he's a man." And just remember that virtually all fields are still rife with some form of misogyny.

5. The privilege of being seen in politics, and not having your gender work against you in powerful positions. 90% of politicians are still male, and 10% of Americans say they still would not vote for a female politician.

6. Women are expected to be the ones responsible for birth control, even though that very same birth control comes with numerous side effects that are hazardous for mental and physical health. So basically we are expected to go on medicine that harms our health, and lowers our sex drive, all so men can raw-dog us.

7. Men have the privilege to speak with authority, and still be respected, while a woman who does the same is seen as "bossy" or "bitchy."

8. Men aren't judged by their appearance nearly as much. Basically, as long as men wear a clean shirt, and have combed hair, he is fine in the looks department and can go about the world this way. Women on the other hand, have to shave, bleach their facial hair, and wear makeup, and do all this other time-consuming shit in order to look acceptable.

9. Male fashion is free-flowing and comfortable. Women's fashion is restrictive, allows for limited range of mobility, and serves to make us weaker and more vulnerable. High heels, fake nails, mini skirts, the list goes on and on...

10. Having a child hurts only women in their careers, while men continue to improve in their careers despite having children. This is proven even in statistics, regarding a man vs woman's pay after each child.

11. Female victims are often shamed and blamed, while the male perpetrators are seen as "just being men" for acting on their innate aggression or perversion.

12. Female gold-diggers are heavily shamed, while the very same men who exploit and use them as sex objects, nobody seems to criticize.

13. Women cheaters are heavily criticized and shamed, while male cheaters are kind of seen as funny, and people are more willing to cover for a male cheater.

14. Men can get gray hair, or get fat, or age any way they wish. Men can have no hair on their heads, or have massive bushes all over their legs and back, while women who don't shave are seen as disgusting or unhygienic.

Etc.






hahahaha... no wonder no one takes this male privilege shit seriously other than
silly little progressives that think they're permanent victims. shed your chains


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23514504 - 08/05/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wut, most of that is baseless generalization thats ignoring the other sides shit too. Ive seen both genders get shamed. Ive seen both genders shrug off parental responsibility. Ive seen strong women be treated with respect and admiration. Ive seen men take the leave and watch the kid. Men dont have have the selection of clothes as women do, and if you wanna dress in flowy clothing throw on a dress. Kind of fuckass shit is this?  None of these things are even real problems and dont reflect the reactions. of the greater part of society.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23514506 - 08/05/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

hahahaha... no wonder no one takes this male privilege shit seriously other than
silly little progressives that think they're permanent victims. shed your chains




Speaking of victimization, let's look at the reality of the statistics, crime is often gender-based... 90% of violent crime is committed by males. The few women that commit these crimes, usually act with male accomplices.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23514568 - 08/05/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

hahahaha... no wonder no one takes this male privilege shit seriously other than
silly little progressives that think they're permanent victims. shed your chains




Speaking of victimization, let's look at the reality of the statistics, crime is often gender-based... 90% of violent crime is committed by males. The few women that commit these crimes, usually act with male accomplices.





and most of the victims of violent crimes are also males


#femaleprivilege


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23514575 - 08/05/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

and most of the victims of violent crimes are also males


#femaleprivilege




Depends what crime we are talking about, if you're talking about domestic abuse women compose the primary numbers of victims, and female victims of domestic assault also compose 90% of hospitalization victims. If you're talking about rape, if you do not include the prison population and only look at normal society, women risk a higher risk of being raped.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23514668 - 08/05/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
it seems you want to spread lies about who's the largest sector of rape victims in addition to other lies, we've already shown that men are 3 times more likely to be raped



where did i say they weren't? :confused:...

all i said was men are out and out the major perpetrators and men need to stop raping people.. they also need to be stop shooting people and being violent towards people.. that doesnt negate anything but it doesnt show any female privilege either.

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and then you talk this shit about a gender wage gap that's nonexistent in
the US. in 1962 Kennedy signed an equal pay law making it illegal to pay someone at a different rate based on sex




law does not magically change culture, mate. most drugs are illegal yet here we are :nut:..

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women tend to take jobs that pay a lower rate such as teaching while more men go into engineering.




i find this to be such bs.. look at wealth and power and see which gender is dominant and which genders they favour

how about... professional sport?
  • NFL - men
  • basketball - men
  • baseball - men
  • cricket - men
  • rugby - men
  • hockey - men
  • football - men


okay.. how about music over the years?
  • classical - men
  • jazz - men
  • rock - men
  • rap - men
  • dj (electronica) - men


ah hmm.. well, what about high paying jobs?
  • law - men
  • tech - men
  • startups - men
  • stockbroking - men
  • politics - men
  • programming - men
  • CEOS - men


"but women dont actually want power or money or independence they would rather teach the children"

oh yeah that must be it :rolleyes:


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23514723 - 08/05/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
I've never met anyone so interested in talking about privilege and oppression as the members here who insist that feminism is a threat to our society.

I always hear, "tell me how women are oppressed in modern America..." but I would like someone to tell me what feminists do here at the shroomery that warrants making all these threads in opposition to them.  The people who seem most interested in gender politics here are anti-feminists.




Pretty much, this seems like all of what is behind the MRA movement. They blame everything from male conscription to male genital mutilation, all of course on feminists. Because women and feminists are what controls the government and also the people who are responsible for circumcision. :flowstone: Yep, it's all them.

Now, I can understand saying that there is a problem with these things, and that men's rights must be protected from such things. But to blame feminists for these problems like these guys do, it's pretty obvious these guys just have an axe to grind against women, and really don't give a shit about men.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23514770 - 08/05/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:

and most of the victims of violent crimes are also males


#femaleprivilege




Depends what crime we are talking about, if you're talking about domestic abuse women compose the primary numbers of victims, and female victims of domestic assault also compose 90% of hospitalization victims.





that would be reported victims but that becomes skewed in many instances because
in most cases where a woman strikes a man and that man strikes her back, it's the
woman the cops side with because of the female privilege of 'a man should never
hit a woman' and it's the woman's report that's filed while the man goes to jail


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If you're talking about rape, if you do not include the prison population and only look at normal society, women risk a higher risk of being raped.





dont play your rape culture game here. first of all, most police jurisdictions
laugh when a man comes forward with rape allegations against a woman and you of
all people know it happens based on your own confessions, had he gone to the
police and said he was drugged and raped do you think the cops would have bothered
with it? do you think you would have been prosecuted as a rapist or a person that
drugged someone against their will/knowledge? had you been prosecuted do you think
that you would have seen the same sort of jail time as a man? I can tell you from
what I've seen in regards to women sexually abusing children in their care such as
teachers, they dont. many arent even required to register as sex offenders

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/butte/convicted-former-pe-teacher-wont-register-as-sex-offender/43848173

this woman was expected to only serve 9 months
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/chantae-gilman-woman-rapes-man-seattle_n_5824456.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_rape#Punishment_of_assailants
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Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years






now some things the FBI statistics show, about 10% of all reported rapes are men,
knowing what we do about this system, how many rapes went unreported because the
systems still doesnt recognize men as rape victims. we also know that by the FBI
statistics, 2 out of 3 rapes go unreported, if they're unreported, how do we know
the majority of these victims were not male? even you have stated that most men
wouldnt report it and you've stated yourself that you've raped before, how many
other women have done the same

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/almost-half-of-young-men-say-theyve-been-sexually-coerced/5343538578c90a60e70003bb

http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/rape-happens-almost-just-as-often-to-men/



ok, so let's not include the fact that with the prison population where men are
raped at more than twice the number of reported rapes outside of prison walls that
men apparently are more than half the actual rape and sexual assault victims but
are the grossly under reported victims of you predatory women. now how about
sticking that in your #femaleprivilege


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: quinn] * 1
    #23514782 - 08/06/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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quinn said:
i find this to be such bs.. look at wealth and power and see which gender is dominant and which genders they favour

how about... professional sport?
  • NFL - men
  • basketball - men
  • baseball - men
  • cricket - men
  • rugby - men
  • hockey - men
  • football - men


okay.. how about music over the years?
  • classical - men
  • jazz - men
  • rock - men
  • rap - men
  • dj (electronica) - men


ah hmm.. well, what about high paying jobs?
  • law - men
  • tech - men
  • startups - men
  • stockbroking - men
  • politics - men
  • programming - men
  • CEOS - men


"but women dont actually want power or money or independence they would rather teach the children"

oh yeah that must be it :rolleyes:





so none of this has changed in the last 60 years, are women disallowed from doing these things? are women forced to take low paying jobs? can women not be engineers, doctors, lawyers, CEOs and programmers? do women not also play sports?

you're really made a great argument, lol...


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23514796 - 08/06/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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moonrockmushy said:
I've never met anyone so interested in talking about privilege and oppression as the members here who insist that feminism is a threat to our society.

I always hear, "tell me how women are oppressed in modern America..." but I would like someone to tell me what feminists do here at the shroomery that warrants making all these threads in opposition to them.  The people who seem most interested in gender politics here are anti-feminists.




Pretty much, this seems like all of what is behind the MRA movement. They blame everything from male conscription to male genital mutilation, all of course on feminists. Because women and feminists are what controls the government and also the people who are responsible for circumcision. :flowstone: Yep, it's all them.

Now, I can understand saying that there is a problem with these things, and that men's rights must be protected from such things. But to blame feminists for these problems like these guys do, it's pretty obvious these guys just have an axe to grind against women, and really don't give a shit about men.




This is what I was trying to get at earlier-- it's ridiculous to blame "female privilege" for male norms. Women can't be held responsible for the way that men treat men. If m en are treating each other like shit, a real men's rights movement should focus on getting men to be more respectful to one another. MRA's should be focusing on men, not women.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #23514810 - 08/06/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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that would be reported victims but that becomes skewed in many instances because
in most cases where a woman strikes a man and that man strikes her back, it's the
woman the cops side with because of the female privilege of 'a man should never
hit a woman' and it's the woman's report that's filed while the man goes to jail




Well, if you're ranking based on severity, you can bet that women are suffering far more severe beatings in domestic disputes, just based on the fact that an overwhelming majority of those hospitalized for domestic battery are women.

If you're going to cite that statistic that claims that "40% of victims of domestic violence are male," you should know that study used a methodology that merely cited ANY form of hitting/kicking/spitting/hair-pulling/clawing/whatever, no matter how severe or mild, into those statistics.

Important thing to note, that study also did not take who was the aggressor into account.

Meaning, if a man hit a woman, and she claws his face back in self defense, that man is also considered a "victim" under that methodology.

And of course, since fights where police are called often result in "she hit me," "he kicked me" accusations to prevent jail time from either party and shift the blame to the other person, it makes sense that the numbers would be this high.


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dont play your rape culture game here. first of all, most police jurisdictions
laugh when a man comes forward with rape allegations against a woman and you of
all people know it happens based on your own confessions, had he gone to the
police and said he was drugged and raped do you think the cops would have bothered
with it? do you think you would have been prosecuted as a rapist or a person that
drugged someone against their will/knowledge? had you been prosecuted do you think
that you would have seen the same sort of jail time as a man? I can tell you from
what I've seen in regards to women sexually abusing children in their care such as
teachers, they dont. many arent even required to register as sex offenders




I never drugged and raped anybody. I drugged my own self if you remember correctly. :cookiemonster:

But I've said previously, I personally don't think that female-on-male rape should carry the same offense as male-on-female rape. The reason for this, is because when you're being penetrated against your will, it is a lot more painful and can cause all sorts of tearing. Whereas simply having your penis enveloped is not as traumatic physically, or even mentally.

Seriously, ask yourself whether it would be more traumatic to have your anus penetrated, or your penis enveloped. Whether it would be more traumatic to have a nasty mofo riding your dick or sucking it. There's a reason there's different tiers of sexual abuse and violation, because not all of them are equal.

For this reason alone, I don't believe women are capable of rape, unless they anally or vaginally penetrate somebody else. They are most definitely capable of sexual assault or molestation, but the word rape is not used when you touch somebody, perform oral sex on somebody, or perform other sexual acts on them.

Having your penis enveloped would probably be the equivalent of a guy dry-humping and rubbing against your clitoris. Yeah, it's gross, but doesn't really have quite the same trauma factor.

Furthermore, I hate to say this, but a lot of men really like it when women "molest" them. At least when an attractive woman does it, provided she is not too much older. I'm sure an 18 year old would be grossed out by me molesting them now and so I wouldn't dare do it and risk being that skeevy old lady, but probably if I was 20 they would have enjoyed a grope here and then I'm sure. :cookiemonster: You know that's exactly the kind of story guys would be talking on and on and bragging for years about at the bar. :ilold:

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now some things the FBI statistics show, about 10% of all reported rapes are men,
knowing what we do about this system, how many rapes went unreported because the
systems still doesnt recognize men as rape victims.




Yes, that is a problem. But a lot of those rapes are by other men. And how is the issue of male rape victims not being taken seriously in judicial law the fault of women or feminists? If anything, it's a patriarchal view on society that perpetuates this myth, that men can never be victims.

I also find it ironic that so many men that campaign to get male rape victims get taken seriously, are also the same men that perpetuate the idea that you should always question and never believe women who say they are raped, because they are often doing it just for social or financial or political reasons. This is the only thing that makes me question the motives of these "male rape victim crusaders." Are they truly looking for the welfare of men, or are they attempting to gain dominance and control over women?

http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/rape-happens-almost-just-as-often-to-men/

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ok, so let's not include the fact that with the prison population where men are
raped at more than twice the number of reported rapes outside of prison walls that
men apparently are more than half the actual rape and sexual assault victims but
are the grossly under reported victims of you predatory women. now how about
sticking that in your #femaleprivilege




I honestly don't know why people try to cite prison statistics to make the claim that men are raped more. Like first of all, the main reason male on male rape is so high in prison is only because women aren't there. If women and men were housed together in prison, of course the primary numbers of rape victims would be primarily women.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23514826 - 08/06/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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so none of this has changed in the last 60 years, are women disallowed from doing these things? are women forced to take low paying jobs? can women not be engineers, doctors, lawyers, CEOs and programmers? do women not also play sports?



where did i say any of that? quit straw womaning me bro


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23514827 - 08/06/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Are you suggesting men are all part of a conspiracy to promote these things?
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    #23514834 - 08/06/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Are you suggesting men are all part of a conspiracy to promote these things? Do you honestly think we hold meetings on how to oppress women?

:loldongs:




Most definitely not like that, but it is systematic and to some degrees, even subconscious. And a lot of it stems from the innate belief that women are inferior or incapable of certain things, which is evidenced in this thread alone (OP himself and a couple other guys stated that women abide by "estrogen-driven logic" for example).

So, when people have these sort of sexist implications in their mind, they might actually behave in sexist ways without even consciously doing it. When you promote a team leader for example, you might pick a male who looks a particular way (say, slim, tall, with glasses)--who, in your mind, might be the best fit for the job, but you might not consciously realize that he may seem the best to you because of pre-conceived notions. Or when you walk into a store and you see 1 male, you might assume that the one guy is the manager.


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Re: Female privilege? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23514849 - 08/06/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i remember hanging out with some guys from my highschool not too long ago and one of them who seemed a well informed on many topics, intelligent and respectable and who i was kind of in awe of, out of nowhere started saying how he thought women were not as smart as men and only did well at tests because they are better organised and how their brains stop developing after highshcool and how they can't think rationally etc.. was kind of an eye opening moment for me


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