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Shiithead
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Fatherless Children 2
#23509172 - 08/04/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems to be a reoccurring theme in my life. I feel as though most of our problems would be solved by men who would take pleasure in the responsibility that fatherhood brings. But most men today are pussies, cowards, and children themselves. What are your thoughts and experiences?
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Shiithead]
#23509176 - 08/04/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive talked to my dad like three times a year for the last 20 years, seen him like 10 times in 20 years. I still love him and theres no problems with me or him
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: goop]
#23509230 - 08/04/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My dad was always there for me and still is. I love him with all my heart.. I wanna be a dad myself sometime.. and the fact that i'm not makes me really upset.
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My dad has always been an amazing role model for me. My parents have never split up or divorced and while they're both starting to enter their 60's and definitely bicker accordingly, they love and respect each other and I never realized what a rarity that was - at least among the people I know.
idk, but a good friend of mine has a three year old son and even though he's divorced and forced to share custody with someone who is just terrible(to him and his family not the child), he really is an amazing father and I know that kid will be fine.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Shiithead] 2
#23509270 - 08/04/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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while fatherless children could be an issue, i think in general, it's parentless children. even for a lot of children that have parents (one or both) around, the parents are largely absent in their upbringing, besides being financially responsible.
kids raising kids, lol
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Shiithead]
#23509317 - 08/04/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only real father figure in my life that tried to steer me in the right direction were my dad's father and my mother's step-father, who I consider my grandfather. The past couple months I have realized who I am and it is because of these men. My dad never showed me how to be a man and is still failing in that department. I love him as well but when I have children, there is a good chance he won't be in their lives despite the fact that he would try at that point. It's probably something we would have to work on now though.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Shiithead]
#23509673 - 08/04/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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it seems pretty obvious to me that parent-less kids are a problem, and indeed fatherless or family-less people make up the majority of the prison population. No coincidence that good argument for birth control and abortion imo
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Ezuma]
#23509687 - 08/04/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Dark_Star]
#23509704 - 08/04/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
really? it makes perfect sense to me.
1) immaturity, 2) lack of responsibility, 3) high degree of self-centeredness/absorption, 4) inability to fulfill commitments (or not knowing what it actually means to be a parent)
top that off with most people having to work 40-60/hrs per week, then being exhausted afterwards....
yea, makes perfect sense
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: demiu5]
#23509710 - 08/04/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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demiu5 said:...kids raising kids, lol
There's probably an app for that.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Dark_Star]
#23509723 - 08/04/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
I agree, if that's is in fact exactly what happened. Sometimes you will see a girl with kids and she will play the victim card, not be responsible and accountable for her actions, and not realize just how much she contributed to her man leaving. As with all relationships, it's a two way street.
Yes, sometimes it is all one persons fault, but usually it's just that people need to put their pride aside, talk things through, maybe see a marriage counselor, and really invest the time into working their issues out, rather than looking for a simple fix which is just going to cause your kids drama in the long run.
It's sad, but often times the parent that has the most money, is the one that makes the "truth", I have seen this more times that I can count.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Lucis]
#23509761 - 08/04/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
I agree, if that's is in fact exactly what happened. Sometimes you will see a girl with kids and she will play the victim card, not be responsible and accountable for her actions, and not realize just how much she contributed to her man leaving. As with all relationships, it's a two way street.
Yes, sometimes it is all one persons fault, but usually it's just that people need to put their pride aside, talk things through, maybe see a marriage counselor, and really invest the time into working their issues out, rather than looking for a simple fix which is just going to cause your kids drama in the long run.
It's sad, but often times the parent that has the most money, is the one that makes the "truth", I have seen this more times that I can count.
a lot of people have one or more children with each other before realizing/accepting that they are not compatible [enough to live together/maintain a civil relationship] and that the "love" they felt was so strong and could endure was nothing more than fleeting infatuation
also, people change. or people don't reveal all of themselves for a long period of time out of fear of rejection. and after all, what are most of us taught growing up? that being alone is the worst possible thing in this culture
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Dark_Star]
#23509790 - 08/04/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
We have a structure which encourages single women to have children out of wedlock and with several different men.
The "safety nets" of this new society plays a huge role in the destruction of the traditional family unit. I know liberals will kick and scream and say the traditional family unit makes no sense, but this is how humans evolved.
Now we have fathers that don't give a shit or can't even see the children they are paying for, we have children that don't receive the needed discipline from a male, it's a big mess in many ways.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: qman]
#23509800 - 08/04/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Qman, I agree with that whole post and was about to post the same thing. It's really a modern society issue, since the 70's.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: demiu5]
#23509811 - 08/04/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: a lot of people have one or more children with each other before realizing/accepting that they are not compatible [enough to live together/maintain a civil relationship] and that the "love" they felt was so strong and could endure was nothing more than fleeting infatuation
also, people change. or people don't reveal all of themselves for a long period of time out of fear of rejection. and after all, what are most of us taught growing up? that being alone is the worst possible thing in this culture
I totally agree with you, except on the being alone thing, I don't think being alone is the worst possible thing in this culture, and was never told that growing up.
I was with a girl for a decade, but during 2007 I felt like we should have separated, and I told her this several times but she didn't take seriously what I was saying, I felt bad for her so stuck with her for 4 more years, which was a bad choice because it only caused more problems.
Everybody that knew both of us said that I should leave her because she was fake, I just couldn't see it because I cared about her.
But the past is the past, and I am happier now than I have been in a long time, spiritually, physically, and mentally speaking.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Shiithead]
#23509819 - 08/04/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Seems to be a reoccurring theme in my life. I feel as though most of our problems would be solved by men who would take pleasure in the responsibility that fatherhood brings. But most men today are pussies, cowards, and children themselves. What are your thoughts and experiences?
That's a pretty narrow way to look at it. I think more people need a sense of responsibility, but that doesn't necessarily mean children. It could just as easily be responsibility to community, country, or the environment.
Honestly, if we want to really be responsible and solve the world's problems, I'm going to have to agree with other people and say that the solution is less parenting being necessary. By that I mean 0 or 1 child per couple. There are some very consequential and compounding world issues today that people need to be focused on as much as family, as we have to ensure that there will exist a safe and abundant world for these children to inherit. Those issues are much easier solved at 4 billion people than at 9 billion, and every drop in the bucket counts. There's also enough kids out there already that aren't taken care of without people popping out five of their own.
I'm not really sure how I see having children being related at all to being a coward. Most people that have kids didn't have them because they were brave, they did so because they were stupid and were fucking unprotected. Plenty of parents are piles of shit, and plenty of childless people are selfless and admirable humans, and obviously the converse of both of those situations as well.
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Everybody that knew both of us said that I should leave her because she was fake, I just couldn't see it because I cared about her.
But the past is the past, and I am happier now than I have been in a long time, spiritually, physically, and mentally speaking.
I've been through something similar. I'm single after being with someone I loved for a few years. We got along pretty well, and even lived well together at times, but had a small number of glaring dealbreakers that we chose to agree to disagree on. Unfortunately love can only overcome so much difference in core values and worldview, and we parted ways. After being single for 6 months, I feel likewise happier than I've been in a long time, in every aspect of my life. I still look back on my time with her fondly, as she helped me really get in touch with myself and live a healthier lifestyle, but I'm very content with being single and meeting new women.
Keep at whatever you've been doing, as apparently that's working for you. Congrats on getting to a good place
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: KMt]
#23509834 - 08/04/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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KMt said: Qman, I agree with that whole post and was about to post the same thing. It's really a modern society issue, since the 70's.
People having children back then got married and stayed married, the blacks did the same thing, today these polices have destroyed black culture.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: Dark_Star]
#23509913 - 08/04/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Boggles my mind that anyone could make a child then walk away, or stay but be neglectful & shitty parents. That shit will never make sense.
This! I watched my mom and dad stay together until she passed away last year sept 11th. They were together for 28 years.. I have never cheated on any of my girlfriends or ever had unprotected sex. All this time I knew I wasn't ready to be a father. And now I think I am when i'm not doing so well.. that doesn't make much sense.
I really wish I had a boy. A son. That I could take fishing, and watch him grow. My father took me fishing and it was some of the best moments I ever had with him. I would let my son know everything about me and where I came from. Always be there for him no matter what.. I really hope I am just able to experience fatherhood.. I always said I wanted a daughter but not so much anymore in today's world.. I couldn't imagine my daughter being targetted sexually by any man.. And in today's world they are encouraged to dress provocatively. I would encourage her to dress nice in dresses and stuff. Modestly. Not like the rest of the world..
I WANT KIDS DAMMIT..
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if you ever reproduce and have a daughter, please take her fishing too. That goes for everyone.
I loved nothing more than fishing with my pops as a kid, could never sleep the night before.
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Re: Fatherless Children [Re: demiu5]
#23510020 - 08/04/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Demiu5, I obviously don't speak for dark_star, but I think I understand what he meant. I think he gets why it happens that some kids end up fatherless, all those reasons you posted, but I think what boggles his mind is how a parent could ever think in those ways in the first place. Like, it's unthinkable, unimaginable to have a child and to be so irresponsible/self-centered/whatever reason given to not be in the child's life and do your very best to raise him or her.
I'm a dad now, and I know I could never do anything but be the best dad I can be. Like, the very core and fiber of my being would reject anything less. In that way, it's tough to understand how some fathers are just uninterested in having anything to do with their children. I mean, the same goes for mothers, but that's not what this thread is about.
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