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Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS?
    #23509058 - 08/04/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hello everyone. Prepping wild bird seed for the first time. Very excited. Lots of floaters. Lots.... No fish net. Sifting by hand is taking forever but I'm not in a rush so no biggie...

There's quite a few Red and green chunks of something mixed in with it, not floating.  Okay to leave them?


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509105 - 08/04/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

IMO it's okay to leave everything in there, including floaters.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Psilicon]
    #23509110 - 08/04/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just spent literally an hour picking out floaters by hand lol. Looks like I lost about a third of my mix to floaters. Maybe a quarter of it. Will take note next time. Thanks


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509115 - 08/04/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pics of the red and green pieces?


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509120 - 08/04/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Arguement ive seen against floaters is just inert nutrients for spores better nuts for a contam

Ive also read here though it gives something for myc to grab ahold to?

Ill be preparing my wbs as well I planned on remocing floters honestly


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #23509127 - 08/04/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I always remove floaters...,,call me crazy


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #23509133 - 08/04/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've never seen that argument made, but I don't agree with it.  Your target species wants the same nutrients as most of the heavyweight contaminants.  Bacteria, yeast, mold--all of them want a source of carbohydrates, the same as whatever is in your spore syringe.  Some other contaminants can make use of them, but TBH I don't think the risk of a Schizophyllum or Pleurotus contamination is increased by leaving in floaters, and even if it were I don't think it would be worth spending an hour pulling out floaters.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Psilicon]
    #23509141 - 08/04/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I use a wire mesh mini strainer to scoop out sunflower seeds and other floaters...takes all of a couple minutes....that being said....the few sunflower seeds that make it past this "screening" :cool: never caused a problem in the grain jar.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23509142 - 08/04/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Universal-Blend-Premium-Small-Birds-Seeds-3-Lb-Birds/10804873


Here's exactly what I bought. If you look at the pic you can see the green pieces clearly


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509171 - 08/04/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if I would use that, it has a staggering amount of added ingredients and dyes:
Ingredients: White Millet, Red Millet, Oat Groats, Rape Seed, Canary Grass Seed, Flax Seed, Finch Millet, Niger, Orange Oil, Ground Corn, Corn Gluten Meal, Dicalcium Phosphate, Maltodextrin, Soybean Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Mineral Oil, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Magnesium Oxide, DL-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (Source Of Vitamin E), Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Carbonate, Dried Molasses, Ascorbic Acid (Source Of Vitamin C), Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfate (Source Of Vitamin K), Biotin, Niacin, Cobalt Chloride, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Folic Acid, Iron Methionine, Ferrous Carbonate, Zinc Oxide, Choline Chloride, Niacin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Copper Sulfate, Riboflavin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Mixed Tocopherols, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Color Added (Red 40, Yellow 6, Blue 1). Guaranteed Analysis (Minimum Values Unless Otherwise Stated): Crude Protein (Min.) 11.0%, Crude Fat (Min.) 5.0%, Crude Fiber (Max.) 7.0%, Moisture (Max.) 12.0%, Calcium (Min.) 0.01% - (Max.) 0.51%, Phosphorus 0.35%, Vitamin A 4500 I/Kg.

As opposed to Kroger Brand birdseed which has


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23509177 - 08/04/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lol fuck me. What the hell did I buy


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23509178 - 08/04/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah you shouldn't have bought WBS with little pieces like that.  Those aren't even grains.  They're like.. kibble for birds basically.  Shit will go soggy and ruin your spawn.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23509182 - 08/04/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trash this and buy better shit huh.

It was only 4 bucks and looks like only enough for 3 maybe 4 jars max....

Atleast I got to do a dry run on the rinsing hah


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509190 - 08/04/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just grabbed a handful of the soaking seed, and there's ALOT of these pieces. Was gonna try to pick em out but the hell with it. Will take longer than going to Kroger and buying fresh seed.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509192 - 08/04/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Feed some birds. :shrug:


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23509201 - 08/04/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe some cool colored birds will come around. That'd be neat.

All my Walmart has is this wild harvest shit. And if I remember correctly, it all had those things in it. I'll try my local grocery stores or dollar store.

Thanks for the help by the way. Glad I asked or I'd have used it anyway.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509215 - 08/04/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wal mart very very like
Y carries Pennington's wild bird seed, it's good...has a little cracked corn...
Ace hardware's has a ton of cracked corn

Kroger's in my experience is the very best, and I know Kroger brand is sold in mom and pop and smaller grocery chains across the nation.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23509220 - 08/04/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is why I like to buy each grain separately... so there's no guessing what you're getting.    If I found anything but wheat in my wheat I'd get my money back.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23509226 - 08/04/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Seems like smaller more generic stores would have "less" quality bird seed, meaning less additives. I guess the big stores and brands add all the crap because it's "good" for birds. Getting ready to dress little man and run to the grocery stores here in town. I have a Kroger about 45 minutes away. Will go there tomorrow if I don't find anything.


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Re: Can I leave the Red/green pieces in WBS? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23509229 - 08/04/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Would southern states (farm store down south) have just millet or some kind of seed without anything else? I'm a city boy. Went there to buy cow poo once and they looked at me like I had three eyes...


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