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Spellbound
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Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria?
#23508280 - 08/04/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So ive used magic mushrooms and amanita muscaria on their own but im interested in mixing them in the near future. I wondered if anyone here did this already, and what type of effect this gave?
I planned to try maybe ten grams amanita then after about an hour take about 2.5g shrooms.
Ive taken 20 grams amanita on their own previously on their own, so thought id lower the dose when i mix them.
Anyway id love to hear from anyone who has tried this already.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23508924 - 08/04/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Joe Rogan did it and said it was insane. Apparently a lot of people think that's what SOMA was.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23509107 - 08/04/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah i read james arthurs book recently and he mentions the same. I just dont want to potentially cause myself five hours of hell! Haha.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510081 - 08/04/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did it, it was fucking horrible had the worst trip of my life. I felt like I was spinning. About to puke and overall was scary
-------------------- Botanist and trying to become mycologist Busy making crack with a spoon Amanita muscaria You got a week to live, live it well.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
#23510155 - 08/04/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh wow, how did you take them, separate or together? Can i ask how much dosage you tried? I think if i try ill have a first go with low doses in case then.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510196 - 08/04/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took 1 gram of dried cubes then smoked 2 grams of muscaria with smoke weed
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
#23510203 - 08/04/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okies thanks. Ive not tried smoking amanita before, i powder and make a tea, tried ten grams once, and twenty twice so far. Makes me really sleepy and delirious haha, my mind goes somewhere but its more like waking from a dream than a trip.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510505 - 08/04/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spellbound said: Oh wow, how did you take them, separate or together? Can i ask how much dosage you tried? I think if i try ill have a first go with low doses in case then.
When I heard about Rogan doing it he said they ate the amanitas (him and Doug Stanhope I believe) and he said the amanitas didn't really do much, just gave them a funny feeling in the head but when they combined it with psilocybin cubensis mushrooms they just blasted off.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23510526 - 08/04/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me it takes two hours to feel amanita, psilo is maybe 40-60 min so i planned to make amanita tea an hour before then take the shrooms as powder in juice maybe.
James arthur suggests soma is syrian rue, amanita, psilocybin and opium poppy! I have rue but not sure on mixing all three just yet lmao, baby steps and all that!
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23510537 - 08/04/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the soma shamans book and according to them this is not a safe mixture. They claim the spirits of the psilocybin mushroom and amanita muscaria are not shamanically compatible and if you combine them, the spirits will fight for supremacy often resulting in bad trips and loss of contact with reality.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510548 - 08/04/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm interesting, is that the name of the book? Is it readily available if i searched it? Thanks
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510554 - 08/04/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: I have the soma shamans book and according to them this is not a safe mixture. They claim the spirits of the psilocybin mushroom and amanita muscaria are not shamanically compatible and if you combine them, the spirits will fight for supremacy often resulting in bad trips and loss of contact with reality.
Really? maybe it's because of the deliriant quality 
I would think it would be a good match personally. But then again..I've never taken amanitas.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510581 - 08/04/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How can you think it would be a good match if you've never taken amanitas?
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Spellbound said: Hmm interesting, is that the name of the book? Is it readily available if i searched it? Thanks 
The name of the book is Sacred Soma Shamans and it's only available through the Soma Shaman's website as far as I know.
Incidentally they so say that the cannabis spirit is extremely compatible with amanita muscaria and highly recommend the combination of weed plus amanita which I can attest to personally as well.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510585 - 08/04/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Based on what I've heard about both plus I've never heard of 2 entheogens like that being a bad mix.
I guess I just have a lot of faith in entheogenic mushrooms.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510592 - 08/04/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spellbound said: Okies thanks. Ive not tried smoking amanita before, i powder and make a tea, tried ten grams once, and twenty twice so far. Makes me really sleepy and delirious haha, my mind goes somewhere but its more like waking from a dream than a trip.
Twenty grams? Are you aware that is an extremely high dosage? If you want to learn how to work with amanita I recommend ingesting 2-6 grams per day 4-5 days a week for a couple of months.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510593 - 08/04/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah okay, thanks so many differences of opinion on whether its a good mix, or not a good mix. Im not interested in the mix to make a heavier trip or anything like that, i just wondered if the combination would bring greater results, spiritually. Hmm ill have to read more
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound]
#23510598 - 08/04/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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4/5 days a week? Hmm not sure i could with work and such, does that work similar to a micro or low dose effect, over time?
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound] 1
#23510623 - 08/04/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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4/5 days a week? Hmm not sure i could with work and such, does that work similar to a micro or low dose effect, over time?
If 2-6 gram is too much with work you can go even lower, like .5 to 1 gram even. You can also smoke it. I find it to be insanely powerful. One hit from an amanita joint will totally change the course of my day.
I do recommend microdosing it. It's important to understand amanita isn't like psilocybin. To get the best high from amanita, you need to learn how to operate on its wavelength, and this is best done by taking small doses frequently, not taking big doses which tend to make one rather sleepy and somewhat delirious.
You will find that a little amanita and a little cannabis is all you need to fly and its not necessarily to take 20 grams to get super high.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510680 - 08/04/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for that, i do have some dried, have been experimenting with different amounts, initially was 3.5g. I may try to combine with a little cannabis then as ive never smoked it actually, just tea.
Some sources say to take 30grams actually, then recycle water, but with anything i like to work up, see how it effects me and so on. I do struggle to keep awake with amanita though, its a strange one.
Maybe i can try small doses on my next week off from work, and meditate and so forth, see what happens. See how i feel.
Checked that website out briefly, seems they have a couple of books, ill have a read and ponder
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510692 - 08/04/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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one other thing regarding work is amanita has the ability to grant you increased strength and endurance. the soma shamans take amanita three times a day every day for the last 30 years. they claim it gives them super human abilities in many respects.
i used to take and go to work and it would make me able to work a full day without feeling tired. you have to be careful with the dose though, i once took too much at work and started tripping out hard. it eventually lead to me having a bad trip which took me 2 months to recover from.
bad trips on amanita are the worst. like many times worse worse than a bad acid trip. and you cant fix a bad amanita trip by changing the music or suggesting a different mood like you often can with LSD/shrooms. Bad amanita trips are no joke, let me tell you this mushroom means business and it will laugh at your pathetic attempts to make your trip good.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510716 - 08/04/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, i have been approaching this one with a lot of respect, always sage before and set intentions and things like this, i have read many times can take you to heaven or hell, so my initial dose was the 3.5g. As tea. I knew i wouldnt trip from that but i just wanted to get a feel and so on.
I think i might practice small doses when off work, and see how it effects me and how well i function, does sound like theres a lot to be said for taking the smaller doses often. Though i think id only like a week or so at a time, not thirty years haha, but hey, who knows!
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Spellbound] 1
#23510822 - 08/04/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not trip from 3.5 gram? Lol, I would trip BALLS if I took 3.5 gram. But there is a reverse tolerance, I needed more when I first began experiemntin with it also. The most I have ever taken is 16 grams and I feel like if I took that much these days I would have the classic NDE experience. That is what high doses of amanita do btw, they allow people to die and visit the other side.
Australian crop circle researcher John Scott, accidentally ODed on it and he spent three days on the other side receiving vast amounts of information about human spiritual history from the Creator. Unfortunately his youtube channel appears to have been deactivated for some reason. Very depressing as I had wanted to listen to his NDE story again.
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Thanks for that, i do have some dried, have been experimenting with different amounts, initially was 3.5g. I may try to combine with a little cannabis then as ive never smoked it actually, just tea.
you mean mix in a joint with cannabis and amanita or just smoke the amanita? I recommend smoking the amanita first and then smoking the cannabis at the peak, no reason you couldnt smoke em both together but I just find I get the best results that way especially because cannabis lasts a lot shorter of a time than amanita, so it makes sense to take the cannabis later on in my opinion.
The soma shamans also recommend experimenting with combining it with other herbs and they say manganese, milk thistle and valerian are essential to have around for any serious amanita user because these substances form an antidote to overdose. I have taken too much amanita before and had my nervous system go haywire on me. They claim that manganese (not magnesium) can quell this effect. a severe overdose will cause blackouts, seizures and NDE type phenomena.
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Some sources say to take 30grams actually, then recycle water, but with anything i like to work up, see how it effects me and so on. I do struggle to keep awake with amanita though, its a strange one.
well first of all the soma shaman say that urine is an impure substance and therefgore recycling your urine contaminates the experience. they claim it was only done when there was a short supply of amanita muscaria mushrooms. I have drank my urine and it does work but it really is rather gross and I see no need to do it anymore, especially now that I have built up a reverse tolerance.
the feeling sleepy is generally a result of taking too much in my experience. rather than make one sleepy, low doses actually act as an energizer.
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Maybe i can try small doses on my next week off from work, and meditate and so forth, see what happens. See how i feel.
thats a great way to take amanita, is take a low dose and meditate beside the energy it gives you. they contain a very powerful spiritual energy, in fact it is the most powerful energy of any entheogen available on earth today. Once you smoke your cannabis while in meditation on amanita, it will blow your mind I'm telling you.
ANother good thing to do is listen to shamanic drumming. John Scott used to have two healing drum meditations on his youtune channel but for some reason he closed his channel. SOma Shaman also recommend using the mushroom for prayer and divination. Pretty much any type of spiritual work can be enhanced by amanita muscaria.
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Re: Has anyone here combined shrooms with amanita muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23510884 - 08/04/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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3.5 was the first time i ever took any, i made tea and it was gold anyway i felt cold, a bit tired, but nothing really noticeable. Second time was 10g i ate them dry, not nice, after two hours my body, the muscles kept twitching randomly, wasnt nice either. And then i fell asleep, i think haha so wasnt a great start, i really hadnt given serious thoughts to smoking them tbh.
Thanks for taking time to type all that all, i appreciate it, youve certainly given me some points to go away and think about before i try again. Maybe micro dosing should be my next attempt after i try smoking them.
Funny you mention those, i plan to order some milk thistle and psyllium husk soon, and i was recently sent valerian seeds, i really ought to sow them and grow my own. Started growing white sage for my smudging also, but its a very slow grower so far haha
I do have just two cds of drumming, i ought to find more but these are nice also. Perhaps ill try smoking it next time and try meditation, and then think about a plan to micro dose also. See what that yields for me,
thanks again
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