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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23532430 - 08/11/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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In our final conversation she blasted me for being old as if I did something wrong.
Then she got pissed at me, did a web search, and suddenly my age is an additional reason to be angry.




A friend said his mom told him he was looking a bit heavy, and it triggered huge
anger within him and he was in melt-down mode and went on a week-long drunken binge.

The million dollar question is, why can people's words cause us to massively over-react?

The answer is deep within our psyche.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23532775 - 08/11/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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In our final conversation she blasted me for being old as if I did something wrong.
Then she got pissed at me, did a web search, and suddenly my age is an additional reason to be angry.




A friend said his mom told him he was looking a bit heavy, and it triggered huge
anger within him and he was in melt-down mode and went on a week-long drunken binge.

The million dollar question is, why can people's words cause us to massively over-react?

The answer is deep within our psyche.




interesting points

  There is also the little matter of someone talking about being so diseased that they feel suicidal, and then being surprised when someone else doesn't find their vibe sexy, (however that person might choose to verbalize their intuitive feeling).
  And there is the added contradiction & irony that of course one wants one's partner (or intended partner) to be observant, intelligent, & intuitive, but then doesn't appreciate it when they are.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: laughingdog]
    #23532788 - 08/11/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: laughingdog]
    #23533023 - 08/11/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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  And there is the added contradiction & irony that of course one wants one's partner (or intended partner) to be observant, intelligent, & intuitive, but then doesn't appreciate it when they are.




An infrequently discussed more or less universal truth.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23533069 - 08/11/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You guys missed the point. Age was not an issue when we met and she found me attractive.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23533258 - 08/11/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And there is the added contradiction & irony that of course one wants one's partner (or intended partner) to be observant, intelligent, & intuitive, but then doesn't appreciate it when they are.





And honest.    Do we truly want our partner to be honest?

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You guys missed the point. Age was not an issue when we met and she found me attractive.




Do you think this might be a red herring?

That there might be more to the story than your age?


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23533698 - 08/12/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You guys missed the point. Age was not an issue when we met and she found me attractive.




maybe, maybe not ...

were you the same you?

Maybe you were on a high the first day at all the potential possibilities of a relationship, that she feed off.

Then next time or times some of your deep inner depression seeped thru the cracks, and she picked up on that energetically, but since you were attempting to hide your disease, she interpreted her vague intuitional feelings, as being concern about age.

Who knows? certainly not me but it does seem entirely possible.

There is also, (since you have chosen to make your personal life a public matter here) the separate question of your integrity - in it's literal sense of integration. How can you be contemplating suicide and trying to pick up a chick at the same time? Are you jerking us around with your 'Passive suicide' posts, or jerking her around presenting yourself as healthy sexy relationship material?

There maybe more to your story, but this is what you have presented to us here in your 2 threads, (Plus another long 'possible relationship' thread) and many have participated in both sympathetically. I have done so. Now we begin to wonder what's up.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: laughingdog]
    #23533720 - 08/12/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As we only met the one time (two days), I was the same age and mood every time she saw me (+- one day).

Did I blow it? Yes. Big time! Something happened and a lifetime of unhealed emotions came to the surface all at once. Kundalini, Twin Flames, psychological meltdown - who knows?

I never loved more nor hurt more. The pain was like nothing I have ever encountered. There was nothing "normal" about this encounter.

I am not alone nor unique. If you disregard the mystical stuff, this woman's blog parallels my story in almost every significant way - except that she had an awakening and I am still stuck. Took her two years to come to grips with it - and almost took her life. Perhaps reading someone else's view on this weird phenomenon may give you some perspective.

http://awakenedqueen.com/twin-flames/twin-flame-separation-2/page/2/


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #23533929 - 08/12/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The important thing is that no charges were filed in your case.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542272 - 08/14/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Did I blow it? Yes. Big time! Something happened and a lifetime of unhealed emotions came to the surface all at once. Kundalini, Twin Flames, psychological meltdown - who knows?

I never loved more nor hurt more. The pain was like nothing I have ever encountered. There was nothing "normal" about this encounter.





Don't call your suffering boiling to the surface "blowing it"

She witnessed your true reality. Don't bash yourself for who you are.

When so called "love" includes unbearable pain, it's not love.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23542301 - 08/14/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I felt fine before the encounter and was unaware how fucked up I was.

I seriously wonder if everyone does not have all their past junk stuffed down so deep that it could spring forth at any moment.

I do think the love was real, but was overshadowed by all the garbage that was loosed at the same time. Hopefully I can find the "real me" beneath this all.



AwakenedQueen writes:


Every soul connection that comes into our lives brings with them their own set of lessons and healing. They reflect back to us the shadow aspects and wounds that we would rather avoid. They show up to wake us up, to make us face what we’ve been avoiding. They mirror deep karmic pain that we have made a soul contract to heal in this lifetime. We have suffered many lifetimes, carrying this pain with us. Sometimes we don’t even realize it’s there. It’s buried so deep in our subconscious, in our souls, that we have no idea that we are burdened by such darkness.

That is until we meet a Twin Flame (I prefer to call them soul connections), and all that karmic pain rises to the surface. Suddenly, our past wounds, the heartbreaks and childhood wounds feel so deep, it’s as if somebody has carved us open with a dagger. We feel vulnerable and exposed. We think “How is it possible that this person, this soulmate, I have such strong, loving feelings for can make me feel so bad? How can they cause me so much pain without even doing anything? How can they make me feel so afraid and bring out such intense, uncomfortable feelings?”

These people come into our lives and trigger our deepest pain to heal us and clear these blockages that keep us from truly loving ourselves. Because until we love ourselves, we can’t give love to the full capacity that we are meant to. Soul connections push our buttons. They pull away when we need them the most; they take away their love when it’s all we’ve ever feared; they abandon us at our weakest moments; they make us face ourselves. They strip away all our distractions, so we finally look into the mirror once and for all. For the firs time, we see all our flaws, weaknesses, insecurities, all the things that we have hidden our entire lives. This person walks into our life, then walks out. And we are left feeling abandoned, naked, and torn apart. We wonder why it hurts so bad, why we feel so lost and afraid to pick up the pieces of our lives and start over. We don’t have the strength to begin again. It’s been drained from our bloodstream.

Their spiritual gift to us is to crack us open, so we may heal and shatter us, so we can rebuild ourselves into more balanced, stronger people. As Rumi says “The wound is where the Light enters you.”


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542333 - 08/14/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Suddenly, our past wounds, the heartbreaks and childhood wounds feel so deep, it’s as if somebody has carved us open with a dagger. We feel vulnerable and exposed. We think “How is it possible that this person, this soulmate, I have such strong, loving feelings for can make me feel so bad? How can they cause me so much pain without even doing anything? How can they make me feel so afraid and bring out such intense, uncomfortable feelings?”





(BTW, this is what Eckhart Tolle calls "pain-bodies"... accumulations of past emotional pain)

To be clear, this suffering comes from within. Nobody "causes" us pain. It comes from within us. 

If the mail carrier rejects us, we don't give a shit...... But if someone we're emotionally invested in
rejects us, we sometimes melt-down... Anger, rage, depression, thoughts of suicide.

It's certainly a real phenomenon, no matter what we call it.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23542346 - 08/14/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Nobody "causes" us pain.




That sounds "true" only if we are all enlightened Buddhas.

For the rest of humanity, being cheated on, betrayed by a friend or losing a loved one does cause us pain. Are you immune to such things?

If so, please teach us the way.

If not, then why present it as factual?


As to my encounter, the extreme pain of separation started long before the rejection. It began the very next day and was nearly unbearable. That does not fit any psychological model that I am aware of.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542403 - 08/14/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I believe, "laughingdog makes me mad", that's irrational and inaccurate.

Dog does not make me mad. He is not the source of my madness.

One doesn't have to be enlightened to observe the irrational absurdity of such a wacky perspective. 

That said, pain is inevitable in life. Suffering is optional. Emotional pain about loss is normal.

When we resist our pain, we create our own suffering and misery. 

Many of us have abandonment demons, due to our upbringing.

Breaking up with a loved one can trigger our abandonment demons.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542933 - 08/15/16 04:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would not argue against the term "twin flame"
in the same way I would not argue against the term "break through".

it is a good poetic naming which emphasizes how intensely real the experience was to you in your terms.

that so much came to the surface shows how nakedly you opened up to the potential.

this makes me think I ought to work out more.

Reverend Jerry Seinfeld clarifies "there is good naked and bad naked."


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23542948 - 08/15/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Don't feel bad you probably dodged the bullet.  Even if you did "enchant" her, lol..  You would probably have ended up spending all your extra money on her so she could fuck with your head until she got tired of you / ran out of money.  People are evil.


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Re: Growing old is not a crime! [Re: IjuzWWa4N]
    #23542961 - 08/15/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mayhaps, but this was looking far beyond the personality and erotic city.

To have the one and only taste of Eden in a long life and then to be cast out is something that cannot be described in words.

As many people with similar experience put it, "We only have two choices: to die or to wake up." I am not sure how to do the latter.

I wanted to be with this woman more than my next breath, but what if I did get together with her in such a messy state? The answer to that is obvious.


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