|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
weetsie
unlicensed tub surgeon



Registered: 05/08/11
Posts: 572
Loc: United Kingdom
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
#23554621 - 08/18/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Mycolorado said:
Quote:
PsilocyBen17 said: Nice flushes Myc. Loving the colours man.
Thanks, PsilocyBen! Ferather suggests that lower temps and bright light are key to good color in the golds and I think he's correct. The fruiting chamber stays between 64-71F and the lights are extremely bright. In fact, I think they're too bright for the wild oyster strain and may be inhibiting fruit development. I'm going to pull one of the lights and see what happens.
Low temps, bright lights make for the best colour in my experience too. It's quite cool in my grow room at the moment and with a metal halide for lighting my pink oysters are practically blood red, even when mature. Can't wait to see what my blues look like in there.
-------------------- Active grow logs: Oysters on Straw Pellets Trade list
|
Mycolorado
Hobbyist


Registered: 07/23/16
Posts: 8,529
Loc: Interdimensional Bootcamp
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: weetsie]
#23554981 - 08/18/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
weetsie said:
Quote:
Mycolorado said:
Quote:
PsilocyBen17 said: Nice flushes Myc. Loving the colours man.
Thanks, PsilocyBen! Ferather suggests that lower temps and bright light are key to good color in the golds and I think he's correct. The fruiting chamber stays between 64-71F and the lights are extremely bright. In fact, I think they're too bright for the wild oyster strain and may be inhibiting fruit development. I'm going to pull one of the lights and see what happens.
Low temps, bright lights make for the best colour in my experience too. It's quite cool in my grow room at the moment and with a metal halide for lighting my pink oysters are practically blood red, even when mature. Can't wait to see what my blues look like in there.
I've been wondering also about spectrum and possibly using LEDs to see what effect, if any, different wavelengths have on fruit body morphology and color. Currently I'm using cobs which kick out a ton of light. The interesting part is these are 3000k (red/warm)color temp where mh, I believe, is closer to 5000k (blue/cool). Keep us posted on how they do under the mh...my pinks definitely weren't blood-red. How many watts is it? Like I said, I'm removing one of my fixtures as I'm pretty sure it's too much for my wild strain.
|
weetsie
unlicensed tub surgeon



Registered: 05/08/11
Posts: 572
Loc: United Kingdom
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
#23555599 - 08/18/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
70W so no monster but still quite a bit of light compared to T5s and such.
I harvested my pinks yesterday so these are the stragglers that I left to grow on a bit. This photo is straight out of camera with standard colour profile and auto white balance:


The colour is much deeper than when I was growing them in natural light and warmer temps.
-------------------- Active grow logs: Oysters on Straw Pellets Trade list
|
anthiawe
friendly stranger


Registered: 05/18/16
Posts: 652
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: weetsie]
#23555856 - 08/19/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Phoenix and pink like warmer better. they will fruit in cooler temps but not as well. They are tropical species remember. Kings and pearls like cooler, wont even pin unless the temp is 15 degrees Celsius - I think blues are in that category as well. Lets not group all oysters together, yellows are unique and have their own characteristics.
-------------------- TEK compendium
|
drake89
Mushroom Magnate



Registered: 06/26/11
Posts: 4,168
Loc: TN
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: anthiawe]
#23556031 - 08/19/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
There is no way you have too much light. The sun is 1000w/Sq meter
|
Mycolorado
Hobbyist


Registered: 07/23/16
Posts: 8,529
Loc: Interdimensional Bootcamp
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: drake89]
#23556220 - 08/19/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Hey drake, you may be right but I'm simply going on observation and deductive reasoning. The wild oyster blocks really pin up where shaded. My wild oyster straw log's second flush happened on the backside of the log which was shaded. The other real culprit seems like insufficient humidity which I know is an issue in my fruiter. Also, as I'm sure you know, p. ostreatus tends to grow in shaded river valleys...the wild specimen I'm growing came from such a place. Either way, one of my lights should be plenty as they produce 9000 lumens each and are directional...fluorescent tubes are like 3000 and the photons are sprayed in all directions. Thanks for the input and I'll update on any change in the wild strain.
|
Mycolorado
Hobbyist


Registered: 07/23/16
Posts: 8,529
Loc: Interdimensional Bootcamp
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: weetsie]
#23557176 - 08/19/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
weetsie said: 70W so no monster but still quite a bit of light compared to T5s and such.
I harvested my pinks yesterday so these are the stragglers that I left to grow on a bit. This photo is straight out of camera with standard colour profile and auto white balance:


The colour is much deeper than when I was growing them in natural light and warmer temps.
Those sure are pretty; crazy deep color! After thinking on drake's comment and very little digging it could be the 3000k temp that is the issue. I've got another cob I use for veg and starts that is 5000k...I'll switch it for one of the 3000ks and see if it's a better mix. Gut says yes. Thanks for the input, gentlemen. Don't want to creep off topic so maybe I'll start a separate thread.
|
Ferather
Mycological



Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 6,325
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
#23557693 - 08/19/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
This is Golden oyster @ 10°C (50°F) - 70% Rh, outdoors:

This is Golden oyster @ 24°C (75°F) - 40% Rh, outdoors:

The second sample had copious sunlight.
|
Quadman
Challenged


Registered: 04/23/16
Posts: 2,529
Loc: IL
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Ferather]
#23558477 - 08/19/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
All my reading said to use the cool white. 5000-6500 range. Warm white falls in the 3000 range. Of course you need enough so they don't have to stretch for the light.
--------------------
|
Ferather
Mycological



Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 6,325
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Quadman]
#23559130 - 08/20/16 04:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
|
Mycolorado
Hobbyist


Registered: 07/23/16
Posts: 8,529
Loc: Interdimensional Bootcamp
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Ferather]
#23559515 - 08/20/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Around 6500k looks about ideal.
|
Ferather
Mycological



Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 6,325
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
#23560450 - 08/20/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
A higher spectrum will have the most effect. 10k LED would be amazing. Direct sunlight would only kill due to heat, not the colour.
Growlux lights are blue-purple and cold.
|
|