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Alfalfa as supplement for straw
    #23506692 - 08/03/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: invitro]
    #23506882 - 08/03/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've been adding about 6 cups of Standlee alfalfa pellets to about 15 lbs of dry straw pre pasteurization. It adds a nice bit of protein and I get nice thick caps on my 3015 strain. That's probably pretty normal for the strain though.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: invitro]
    #23506902 - 08/03/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Invitro, yep, I've been using alfalfa cubes...they fall apart upon soaking/pasteurization making it easy to mix in. Check out my cloning Colorado oysters thread and also the pink contam thread.  Both were straw with alfalfa and gypsum. Also, check out Buckeye Oysters' straw log supplemented with alfalfa and newspaper thread.  His oysters look like no other and he was pulling big yields.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23507229 - 08/03/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yep- Buckeye is where I got the idea from originally. His grows are amazing. I wonder where he is. He hasn't been here or on YouTube for about a year.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: chefjrd]
    #23507319 - 08/03/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

alfalfa is good for nitrogen, careful going over 20% of your substrate as nitrogen will create heat. Also, consider other micronutrients that the mushrooms may enjoy in alternative supplements or fertilizers.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: anthiawe]
    #23516176 - 08/06/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Couple pics of the golds popping on alfalfa-supplemented straw.  This is a commercial strain and is a monster pinner.  The entire block is covered in dime-sized tubers.  Not sure how much of a role the supplementation is playing but these are looking really happy.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23517295 - 08/06/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They do look happy...:thumbup:


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: micelio]
    #23518227 - 08/07/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Very nice!


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: chefjrd]
    #23518396 - 08/07/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Today.  They're maintaining their color very well. 


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23522002 - 08/08/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Only pulled 2 decent clumps of golds.  Definitely too dry in my fruiter would be my guess. Also, there were so many tubers the fruiting energy was spread too thin...lots of aborts.  They put on some size since yesterday but lost half their color.  It'll be interesting to compare them to those grown on wood sub.  Here's a pic with some wild grays mixed in. 


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23543324 - 08/15/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Second flush of golds on straw and alfalfa.  This strain produces tons of tubers...not sure if this is common to the golds or just this particular strain.  I only poked a couple holes to see if fewer clusters would grow larger though I don't think it had any real effect as there are so many tubers. 


Also, here's the block of wild oysters I spawned with Brewers grain.  I've been letting them grow for about a week.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23544219 - 08/15/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Those wild oysters are looking mighty fine.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Quadman]
    #23546025 - 08/16/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The water you misted them with, was it 100% clean and fresh.
For example not more than 6 days old, and boiled.

Water contams will totally destroy a fruit body.

Fruit bodys are 80%+ water content.
More rich than water alone.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Ferather]
    #23546138 - 08/16/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Ferather, it's fresh but not boiled.  I fill up the bottle every few days.  Why the concern?


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23547432 - 08/16/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm wondering how they grow out so far then abort to low humidity.
Don't worry I was just checking if there was another reason.

I boil my water and add it to my sprayer hot.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Ferather]
    #23547880 - 08/16/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Right on....the golds?  I think it's just that...lack of humidity.  I'm getting another humidifier in there soon so hopefully that will help. It's been very dry lately.  Here's the larger clump on this second flush. 


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23548966 - 08/17/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats better, They might get a bit big if they are bringing up water.
Substrate water content will drop faster though. Keep misting.

They should be touch damp, and very soft  :thumbup:


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Ferather]
    #23550949 - 08/17/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice flushes Myc. Loving the colours man.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23552655 - 08/18/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Nice flushes Myc. Loving the colours man.



Thanks, PsilocyBen!  Ferather suggests that lower temps and bright light are key to good color in the golds and I think he's correct.  The fruiting chamber stays between 64-71F and the lights are extremely bright.  In fact, I think they're too bright for the wild oyster strain and may be inhibiting fruit development.  I'm going to pull one of the lights and see what happens.


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Re: Alfalfa as supplement for straw [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23554449 - 08/18/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, I think low temps are the way to go with oysters, both for colour and meaty fruits. When RR grew oysters he only grew them in the spring and fall with temps >50F. You'd see less problems with contams this way too. Way to go Myc.


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