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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23469553 - 07/23/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just to piggy back on this thread, where is the go to place to pick up agar, petri dishes, "monotubs", jars and substrates? Thanks


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23470967 - 07/23/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Petri dishes and agar can be found in lab supply places. Agar can also be found in some health shops or online as well as malt extract for nutrients. Totes can be found in supermarkets, so is coir if you're lucky. Coir, peat, poo and all substrate stuff should be found in garden and pet stores if you can't find it in supermarkets.

You probably need to search a bit for stuff though, no everyone stocks everything. Asking around helps.

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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23471203 - 07/24/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I bought my premade pd agar and Petri's off eBay storage box (clear tote) home bargains any of the cheap shops sell them b&m pound stretcher home bargains etc


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23471204 - 07/24/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Should definitely try to find some quart jars for grains. Pints work but it basically doubles the amount of washing, space taken, inoculations, jars needed for tubs etc. Quart is the best size for grains, not too big that colonization takes too long but big enough for a home grower.


quart being 1/4 pint  but I use half pint for Pf I thought grains needed be larger jars at least they always look bigger on photos
Edit: imperial quart not quarter pint basically 1 and a bit litre jars I got confused

Edit 2 : us quart is under a litre so is that the size to aim for or doesn't really matter, I just discovered a gallon isn't 5 litres as I've always thought mind blown :mindblown:


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23471284 - 07/24/16 02:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I live out in the country side and I can acquire fresh manure and other substrates.

Any particular thing I should be looking for besides from just manure? I know it should have perlite in it but I guess I can add that right?

Also amazon sells powdered vegetable dextrose or "premium agar" when you just enter in "agar" search terms.

I guess a Tote is another word for a monotub. So the other poster advised pound stretcher or one of them places, good idea. I'm guessing it will simply be a storage box type thing.

In fact I'm thinking to skip the agar. I was thinking just a jar and rye grain berry to be colonised as a master spawn, break it up and sprinkle it into monotub. I'm pretty sure that's a viable means to an end. I've got that right?


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23471293 - 07/24/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

PDA potato dextrose agar
Yep just a big storage container mines 80litre
Do not ever mix perlite with substrate its sits in a SG fruiting chamber then you sit the cakes on lids or foil  on top of the perlite search SGFC builds


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23471437 - 07/24/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes sorry I am mixing up my terminology. I believe the substrate will be the jar with rye grain and the monotub is the SG fruiting chamber which will have manure and perlite in it. I didn't mean to say I'd put that in the jar.

Thanks for the tips so far

EDIT: Just wanna say is the Agar an advisable step as opposed to an essential one? inoculate the agar, then the jar and finally the SG chamber but can you skip the agar and if so, is there consequences / implications?

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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23471559 - 07/24/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Read these

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542

Dont mix anything with perlite at all
mono tub and sgfc are two different things you only use perlite for sgfc
You dont need agar you use agar to clean up the innoculant before innoculating but you can just inject your spores directly into the grains/brf cake
But agar is a good idea to get into early on but not essential

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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23471735 - 07/24/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes sorry I am mixing up my terminology. I believe the substrate will be the jar with rye grain and the monotub is the SG fruiting chamber which will have manure and perlite in it. I didn't mean to say I'd put that in the jar.

Thanks for the tips so far

EDIT: Just wanna say is the Agar an advisable step as opposed to an essential one? inoculate the agar, then the jar and finally the SG chamber but can you skip the agar and if so, is there consequences / implications?




As others said above, perlite is not needed for bulk, the way it works is not good for it. Perlite wicks moisture, you need something that will hold it. Vermiculite and straw are both good additives to bulk and so is coir if you can't get straw. Just remember to properly pasteurize it.

Yeah, you can grow without agar, you can use your spore syringe to inoculate your grains. Agar is a great tool though, it will significantly decrease your chance of contamination if it's used well.

A tote is just a plastic storage box before any alterations are made. A tote can be turned into different important things like a SAB, monotub or SGFC.

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Should definitely try to find some quart jars for grains. Pints work but it basically doubles the amount of washing, space taken, inoculations, jars needed for tubs etc. Quart is the best size for grains, not too big that colonization takes too long but big enough for a home grower.


quart being 1/4 pint  but I use half pint for Pf I thought grains needed be larger jars at least they always look bigger on photos
Edit: imperial quart not quarter pint basically 1 and a bit litre jars I got confused

Edit 2 : us quart is under a litre so is that the size to aim for or doesn't really matter, I just discovered a gallon isn't 5 litres as I've always thought mind blown :mindblown:




Quart jars hold a quart in volume, which is just under a litre, those are the best sizes for grains, didn't realise you were doing cakes.

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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Supalemonhaze] * 1
    #23489139 - 07/29/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome site for all your microbiology need agar tools pp5 petri dishes and UK based
http://www.agarscientific.com


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23504902 - 08/03/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just got these bargain buys £1 each, hold 500ml so not as big as a quart jar, jars here are so dear lol, so i thought for sake of £1 each ill buy a load ^_^



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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Spellbound]
    #23504932 - 08/03/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Where from those lids are cool


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23504968 - 08/03/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The shop chain called Bargain Buys ^_^

If i cant get more ill order a pack of 12 700ml of that ampulla, but for £1 and no shipping i took them all lol, all eight anyway. They said another delivery tomorrow so ill call back in :smile:


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Spellbound]
    #23504973 - 08/03/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not seen any of them round my way only the usual home bargains b&m etc


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23504978 - 08/03/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh we have one on a retail park place with few other stores, bargain buys are the red shop lol. All else fails and dont get more ill get a pack of 12 700ml off ampulla, only a tener, plus shipping though.

I dont like paying shipping >_< hahaha.

Just need some rye now, anyone know cheap place in uk for suitable rye?

Edit - i really wanted these as the lids will hold on the filters you see :wink: i think


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Spellbound]
    #23505201 - 08/03/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You can get litre mason jars for 99p with the lid and ring. Almost identical to the ball mason jars from the states just slightly larger. Bought 12 used half already and they are ok. I'm sure weetsie said a few of them cracked or shattered on him but nothing happened to me yet.

Poundstretcher are doing a deal on totes right now. I got a 4 65litre totes for something like 20 squid.

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    #23505213 - 08/03/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)


Can't grumble for 99p

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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Psykronik]
    #23505403 - 08/03/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They look pretty sound I'm guessing they PC OK though? I've seen cheap imitation ball type jars shatter first time they're pc'd


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Psykronik]
    #23505421 - 08/03/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yep those are the ones, they are not as good as kilners but for the price you can't complain. Just take extra care with the temperature changes and I think they will do alright. Even if a few break it's still a saving over kilners at £2-2.50 a pop.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: weetsie]
    #23505595 - 08/03/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

and just dont have them on the bottom o the PC. put a rack/some lid bands and foil/strainer/hand towel/ or something for the jars to sit on. should be fine.


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