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Munchauzen


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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23507200 - 08/03/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I just wanna say, fuck pf tek. That is all. 
Agreed. I never would have agreed to it originally when I started getting serious about this hobby. I've read members, both experienced and not, post PF grows with what I would consider fantastic results for a first time grower. I had plans to keep going with this spawning BRF cakes to CVG for quite some time. After actually really reading around though, I've come to agree with the sentiment among more experienced growers that it's beyond worth it to move to bulk. It seems intimidating as hell, and certainly more involved and expensive, to a new grower, but as I compare what I have invested in time, worry, and remedial measures in trying to get the few cakes I have out of PF tek, the costs in time, equipment, and researching/practicing new technique don't seem so intimidating. I'm honestly getting simultaneously excited and relieved as I get more set in the idea of taking my steps into bulk. I've got high expectations and feel like I'll be successful with the community behind me. It will be an increase in yield and decrease in grow time and worry. I'm stoked. and also a little baked, please excuse the introspective rant.
watch my bulk videos in my signature. it helps to see somebody else doing it. its not very difficult once you get over the initial anxiety.
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Munchauzen]
#23507239 - 08/03/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:52 AM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23507264 - 08/03/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once a month or so I colonize a bunch of agar plates, inoculate them, and as they start to approach being colonized, assuming they're clean (haven't been having issues, but don't fuckin jinx me..), I do one of three things. I either A. take a whole plate and use it to make blender LI, then inoc 7-10 jars with it, or B. cut wedges out of the plate and use those to inoculate a similar number of jars, or C. put it in the fridge and save it so that I can do more A and/or B when time allows throughout the month.
As a result I have jars that will colonize in 1-2 weeks, jars that will colonize in 2-3 weeks, and the ability to make more jars at any time. I'm working on getting the staggering just right but this setup is working out better than previous attempts at that. It helps with getting burned out on doing too much myco shit in one day, not having to deal with more than a few things at once is preferable.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23507265 - 08/03/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once you start agar you soon end up with more colonized plates than you can use. So you start knocking them into masters. Real quick you end up with a load of masters. So you expand em. All of a sudden you have 100 quarts of spawn you need to use, but the whole time you kept up with the agar and the masters. So now those are going in the fridge, you run out of jars and you are all out of room for monos. Your fridge is full of fruits cause your 3 dehydrators can only dry a half pound at a time and you have an industrial black garbage bag full under your bed.
Happens to everyone when they start agar. . .
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Munchauzen


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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23507271 - 08/03/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I usually do some kind of work once every weekend. either grain jars or agar plates, or both. it does allow for some flexibility.
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Inocuole
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23507270 - 08/03/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pasty's version was better. That's totally how it happens if you're not careful. Or I guess, inversely, maybe also when you are careful.
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Eywa_devotee
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Munchauzen]
#23507428 - 08/03/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok looking at your jars, it looks like you either did not sterilize them enough, the jars were too hot when you injected them, or you shot too little spore juice in the jars with a hot needle. It is possible but unlikely that it's a gas exchange issue. What i would do is try again with the PF tek as a basic test of each syringe to make sure they are viable. You can replace the lid with tyvek for MUCH faster colonization time. When signs of life are there, let your PF jars continue to full colonization, then do a SFGC as you originally intended.
For each viable syringe, make up some bird seed jars with tyvek home-wrap on the top instead of the metal lids. Proper filling technique is a bit of dry verm on the bottom, lots of fully hydrated birdseed in the middle, you can use oats or whatever- just don't use popcorn, and about 1/4 inch or so of dry verm on top. Put some tyvek homewrap on the top, enough to cover the mouth of the jar, and screw the band on. Top with foil. PC for about 90 minutes starting when 15PSI is reached. Let them cool all the way to room temp (usually overnight) and knock 'em up in your SAB or on a clean oven rack with an air purifier nearby. Aim for the fresh air smell if possible.
Set and forget for a couple weeks and check for life. If life is there, let 'em finish off, then crumble and case or go bulk to straw in a monotub. Lots of good TEKs to choose from. Good luck on your grow
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Mad Season
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Wow that was a blast from the past. Now let's try to provide real advice. Until you germinate and have a continuous culture on agar where you can inoculate with growing mycelium instead of half-bunk spores OP, you're going to keep getting shit results.
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Inocuole
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Mad Season]
#23507449 - 08/03/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aim for the fresh air smell! Fuck that brightened my day a little... that's sad...
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Inocuole]
#23507509 - 08/03/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:52 AM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23507518 - 08/03/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm still laughing at "aim for the fresh air smell". Like, my ribs hurt, you don't understand..
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Inocuole]
#23508829 - 08/04/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- The biggest trip of my life was realizing all of the events and actions described in posts made by this account were never real and had never actually happened, but were instead the delusional ramblings of a severely mentally ill human being. I just had to move on for my own good. I love you all.
Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:52 AM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23508839 - 08/04/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not bad. Maybe ease the misting up a smidge, the pins are looking a bit wet. Only mist them if the water from the previous mist is gone. But overall your doing well, keep staying the course
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23508878 - 08/04/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- The biggest trip of my life was realizing all of the events and actions described in posts made by this account were never real and had never actually happened, but were instead the delusional ramblings of a severely mentally ill human being. I just had to move on for my own good. I love you all.
Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:53 AM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23508885 - 08/04/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Picture isn't great but it could be mold. You will know in a day for sure.
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23508907 - 08/04/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- The biggest trip of my life was realizing all of the events and actions described in posts made by this account were never real and had never actually happened, but were instead the delusional ramblings of a severely mentally ill human being. I just had to move on for my own good. I love you all.
Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:53 AM)
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Mad Season
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23508919 - 08/04/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinda yes. Also the texture. Molds look like sand or granular. Bruising looks like blue mycelium.
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Mad Season]
#23508946 - 08/04/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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the cambo jar looks like mold to me, sorry. but like Pasty said, youll know for certain in a day..
keep up the good work. youre on the right track!
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: Mad Season]
#23509000 - 08/04/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- The biggest trip of my life was realizing all of the events and actions described in posts made by this account were never real and had never actually happened, but were instead the delusional ramblings of a severely mentally ill human being. I just had to move on for my own good. I love you all.
Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:53 AM)
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amidogen
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Re: Getting Grow Depression [Re: amidogen]
#23527940 - 08/10/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- The biggest trip of my life was realizing all of the events and actions described in posts made by this account were never real and had never actually happened, but were instead the delusional ramblings of a severely mentally ill human being. I just had to move on for my own good. I love you all.
Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:53 AM)
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