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Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/
#23503722 - 08/02/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So this guy hits my line today asking if I have tried shrooms and if I would reccomend it. I told him how I preferred acid and he responds saying "yeah but I don't want my shit to fry" as if he's gunna become completely brain dead after taking acid, like cmon. But then he goes and pops 2 oxy's like its nothing. Another instance a few days ago was at work and somehow acid got brought up. My coworker then says "yeah I heard that if you take over 7 hits you are legally retarded"; why is it so common to meet people who think LSD is this crazy drug that consumes your brain and soul. Lol there loss, Its a bummer the Feds fucked sweet L's rep.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia] 1
#23503794 - 08/02/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reefer madness
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It's all bullshit.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Canadian Jesus]
#23503807 - 08/02/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahha straight up! Whatever means more for us lol
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503816 - 08/02/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never knew LSD got bad rap. Where I am, weed is really popular and everything else is whatever to most people.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503836 - 08/02/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahha straight up! Whatever means more for us lol
Sadly, it means less for us, since persistent misinformation like that is why we have our psychotic drug policies.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia] 1
#23503862 - 08/02/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well aside from the research chemicals that make things much more dangerous LSD can be a dangerous substance and I think the bigger myth among the psychedelic community is that in fact LSD is completely harmless.
People really can lose their shit on it from time to time, especially those who were not all there to begin with anyway, but that too is often an excuse people tell themselves- that ah he was nuts anyway.
Set and setting is vital and with bad sets, and settings with high doses or cannabis almost anyone can mess up if the conditions are not right. How can anyone ever really know how the set or setting will develop once it starts. Psychedelic drug taking is always a bit of a dice roll.
Drugs like X or Oxy might be more dangerous long term but are alot less unpredictable for your average person and hence much more popular.
If you binge on LSD or take it too late in the day it also really can be a rather tormenting and torturous stimulant that keeps you up for hours of anxious tension rahter like an amphetamine comedown and in comparison to a nice short dose of mushrooms or Ayahuasca does really frazzle your brain (not literally!) for a while.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503864 - 08/02/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very true; luckily I'm in Cali rn so I can get endless amounts
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503870 - 08/02/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think part of it is it street name "acid" it sounds foreboding to people that know nothing about chemistry.
Then there is the urban myths.
Whenever people bring all that bullshit bought lsd i remind them of how safe it is on the body/lack of ods causing death, and get into how it was legal for many many years and even the cia used it extensively for testing ect
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: wolf8312]
#23503893 - 08/02/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see where your coming from, in my opinion I believe that people can either handle psychs or they can't, simple as that(at least for low doses that is lol). If the person is comfortable with an abnormal feeling in their body and unusual thought patterns, it can be handled very well. From my experience, people who can't handle being super high in the first place are usually the ones who end up having "bad trips". And in my area, Xanax and opiates are poppin right now and poeple are selling a shit ton pressed pills(usually with Seroquil, but one person even found low quality coke and amphetamines pressed into a bar). If u kno the right people and are an experienced drug user and have taken various drugs from multiple categories of mind altering ubstances, then LSD can be relatively safe; but every drug has risk
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: LuckeyMA]
#23503901 - 08/02/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I kno what you mean I used to do the same but I've realized it's honestly better to just shut my trap and only discuss psychs with intellectual and open minded people. Around my area, if someone hears you dropped L you are immediately known as a "crazy DRUG user"
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503911 - 08/02/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Drugs like X or Oxy might be more dangerous long term but are alot less unpredictable for your average person and hence much more popular.
This is true people pop oxy like its nothing because it is nothing in terms of the effect its going to have on your mind. LSD can be a challenging, mind opening, spiritual even life changing experience, whereas oxy has completely different risks.
Just because many on the shroomery value the spiritual effects of LSD and consider them as a positive, does not mean that will be thought of that way or that they should be thought of that way by the average person.
Some people don't want their whole sense of reality shattered by a drug and a good dose of LSD can definitely do that. Just because it is physically safe does not mean its something everyone can handle mentally.
Many of us here on the shroomery get quite anxious before we trip, while we do not get anxious before smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer even though statistically we have a much bigger chance of dying from smoking and drinking than psychedelics.
As for why LSD is considered more risky than shrooms, I believe it is because of the 1960s counter culture and the response to it (demonizing the drugs). Back then there were no home growing mushroom methods, so LSD and cannabis became the drugs of the hippie counter culture. A lot of the propaganda put out about LSD and cannabis originated in the 60s and still exists today.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23503922 - 08/02/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a very close family member struggling with opiates at the moment; it's not worth it. It truly hurts seeing someone you love struggle with that shit.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23503947 - 08/02/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Completely agree, I guess it all comes down to preference; I used to love taking benzos or popping any pills for that matter, but now I feel the only drugs that are even worth i are the two best drugs; cannabis and LSD, with the occasional use of other substances. As for getting nervous before tripping, I usually don't have any anxiety before trippin but get a very minor amount around the 30 minute mark so I tend to smoke @ that time so my mind gets preoccupied with the weed high and next thing you know your frying dick lol
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23503950 - 08/02/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's sad, 1 in 3 Americans!
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23503954 - 08/02/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh I know, I have been through heroin addiction myself. It's the worst. I believe addicts should be given opium maintenance. Opium is a lot safer and harder to OD on than heroin.
alcohol addiction is really bad also. But what I am saying is, you can't just convert all the alcoholics and junkies by telling them LSD is safer because LSD tends to make people look at the exact things they are running from when they drink or do opiates. That can be a good thing if they are willing to look and change themselves, but if they are unwilling to change then its detrimental.
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/02/16 11:16 PM)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503969 - 08/02/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD got caught up in the politics and the political zeitgeist of the 60s, and by association was demonized. Then Nixon came into power, and he famously hated the hippies and anything having to do with them, and he fought very hard to try to destroy anything that was associated with them.
And then of course stuff like the acid tests weren't great publicity. Good for exposing people to it, but very bad publicity. Although on the upside it did create the mythos of psychedelics without which perhaps psychedelics might not have survived as well as they did. So, good and bad publicity, but still there was bad publicity because of the stuff people did in the 60s.
People were reckless with psychedelics in the 60s, and today we're both paying the price and reaping the rewards. It's possible that if people weren't quite as reckless in the 60s, LSD would be schedule 2 or 3, but in exchange we'd have none of the psychedelic mythology and culture and knowledge and history that we do today.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23503988 - 08/02/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree i think people were reckless because they didnt understand the long term commitment that psychedelic spirituality is. when you first take psychedelics they can seem like an instant shortcut to peace, enlightenment and utopian existence where everyone just loves each other. thats what happens when a generation of young people suddenly take LSD, they go wild with the euphoria of spiritual discovery.
but few are ready for the long term commitment of integrating the shadow self that comes afterward.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23504034 - 08/02/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response, I wasn't aware of nixons hate of psychs!
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23504040 - 08/02/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Goes to show everyone gets high for different reasons... I'm lucky im not in the category of users who drown themselves in drugs to forget about something, hopefully it Stays that way
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23504047 - 08/02/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh yes, nixon despised drugs and drug users. one of his aids was recently quoted as saying that they concocted the war on drugs because they knew many of their biggest political opponents were drug users.
making a "war on drugs" allowed them legal license to go in and raid the headquarters of their opponents. All of a sudden they could go arrest a guy for having a joint in his pocket. a lot of the laws against drugs are not based on science but rather a desire to legally harass the group of people they were associated with. even today drug laws are enforced in such a way as to marginalize black folks.
i believe the irony and the real losers is the poor parents who just want their kids to be safe. for example, think about all the heart broken parents who have lost their children in this day and age to heroin overdoses.
well, fact of the matter is that the war on drugs is what keeps the much safer, milder plant entheogen opium out of the country and instead makes it much more profitible to turn it into the highly addictive, highly dangerous substance known as heroin.
the parents think the government is trying to keep their kids safe by illegalizing drugs when the truth is that if we had legal and regulated drugs kids would in most cases be a lot safer.
of course you cant prevent all overdoses, but imagine if we legalized and regulated all the natural plant drugs frist. how many kids would turn to the needle if they could get their hands on cheap, high quality smoking opium? I am guessing not very many. This would save the lives of countless addicts while allowing them to be functioning productive members of society.
but such a solution would make too much sense, especially after we've been bombarded witht he idea that drugs are evil and kids legally smoking opium would just be considered too scandalous. better to let them risk overdosing on heroin apparently.
the same thing goes for cocaine. in south america south americans have been getting high chewing coca leaves for centuries with no ill health effects. but here in the USA coca leafs are illegal so if you want a lift you have to turn to the highly pure, highly dangerous illegal extract of the plant known as cocaine.
i realize no one is going to listen to me, but returning to natural plant highs could really do so much toward curbing the harm our nation is experiencing from "drugs".
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/02/16 11:49 PM)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23504067 - 08/02/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Woah, you have altered my view on how drugs were approached in America, thanks for the responses. That makes a lot of sense; the whole we can arrest you with a joint. So crazy to think that people have literally had their life stripped from them because of having a substance on them
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23505501 - 08/03/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It seems like society tends to spread urban legends like "my friend of a friend thought he was an orange/went crazy/jumped out a window/tripped permanently/etc stories between ignorant people very easily.
The result is, a large percentage of the population believes some variant of one of those urban myths, and if you mention LSD in a large enough group of people, it's almost certain somebody in the group will pipe up with some "my uncle's friend took 1 tab and thought he was god and has been tripping for the past 5 years and thinks he's a glass of orange juice" ancedote.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Drugstore]
#23505582 - 08/03/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you take more than 7 hits you're legally retarded.
So... Ive been doing 1.5 mg of lsd when i trip. What does that make me?
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mike4aco]
#23505612 - 08/03/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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history, war on drugs, propaganda, the unknown factor - a lot of young people never come near lsd these days-
also it can be a genuinely terrifying or dangerous experience. While I'm mostly fine on the stuff, I saw a bud of mine straight up break with reality, seeing gods everywhere, thinking he was experiencing evolution of biological life etc for hours, went into the ocean got hypothermia and ended up in hospital lol
so, to be fair, I get some of the fear
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23505648 - 08/03/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take 250 micrograms, sniff some yay then watch Fear and Loathing and you tell me..
No seriously though, it's called fucking ACID
Of course a bunch of people are gonna think something called "acid" as being a crazy drug I mean think back to what you thought about acid before trying it. Also take a look at Marina Joyce.
Acid won't fry you or anything just from trying it but people who have had real far out acid trips do tend to come back a little more withdrawn than how people usually back back from heavy psychedelics. It's a little more surreal and psychophysical and it really does have a more spacey and kind of 'burnt out' headspace than shrooms or at least it can happen. I never had that happen with shrooms though.
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Mike4aco said: If you take more than 7 hits you're legally retarded.
So... Ive been doing 1.5 mg of lsd when i trip. What does that make me?
According to the internet; a glass of orange juice.
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Hmmm im too brown for oj.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mike4aco]
#23505745 - 08/03/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I was under the impression that LSD only has a bad reputation among people who are already against psychedelics. LSD seems accepted as the holy grail of psychedelics among the majority of trippers.
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all the reasons listed above and then stories like the 16 year old in Spartanburg, SC who shot and killed a fire commissioner while allegedly high on acid a day or so ago
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: weirdguy32]
#23505864 - 08/03/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just the media LSD needs lol
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Ezuma]
#23505924 - 08/03/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: thinking he was experiencing evolution of biological life etc for hours
Oh yeah, I've had that too.
Maybe some weird 'genetic memory' or some shit going on there.
I think I remember reading your whole story about that dude actually.....
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23506061 - 08/03/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: oh yes, nixon despised drugs and drug users. one of his aids was recently quoted as saying that they concocted the war on drugs because they knew many of their biggest political opponents were drug users.
making a "war on drugs" allowed them legal license to go in and raid the headquarters of their opponents. All of a sudden they could go arrest a guy for having a joint in his pocket. a lot of the laws against drugs are not based on science but rather a desire to legally harass the group of people they were associated with. even today drug laws are enforced in such a way as to marginalize black folks.
i believe the irony and the real losers is the poor parents who just want their kids to be safe. for example, think about all the heart broken parents who have lost their children in this day and age to heroin overdoses.
well, fact of the matter is that the war on drugs is what keeps the much safer, milder plant entheogen opium out of the country and instead makes it much more profitible to turn it into the highly addictive, highly dangerous substance known as heroin.
the parents think the government is trying to keep their kids safe by illegalizing drugs when the truth is that if we had legal and regulated drugs kids would in most cases be a lot safer.
of course you cant prevent all overdoses, but imagine if we legalized and regulated all the natural plant drugs frist. how many kids would turn to the needle if they could get their hands on cheap, high quality smoking opium? I am guessing not very many. This would save the lives of countless addicts while allowing them to be functioning productive members of society.
but such a solution would make too much sense, especially after we've been bombarded witht he idea that drugs are evil and kids legally smoking opium would just be considered too scandalous. better to let them risk overdosing on heroin apparently.
the same thing goes for cocaine. in south america south americans have been getting high chewing coca leaves for centuries with no ill health effects. but here in the USA coca leafs are illegal so if you want a lift you have to turn to the highly pure, highly dangerous illegal extract of the plant known as cocaine.
i realize no one is going to listen to me, but returning to natural plant highs could really do so much toward curbing the harm our nation is experiencing from "drugs".
You explain it so well. I don't understand why there aren't any politicians in my country vouching for legalizing and regulating all (or most) drugs. If it said by the right person, I believe we will be able to, at some point, make this a reality. When enough people open up their eyes, to see the real benefits of legalizing drugs. It would save many peoples lives, and it would benefit our country, by all the money going in, instead of them going out illegally.
I would want to be that politician to stand out from the crowd, and let the every day person in my country, know the benefits of legalizing drugs, and hope that I am the one who will succeed in making this possible. But I don't think it will the next many many years, maybe not even in my lifetime...
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23506088 - 08/03/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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weirdguy32 said: all the reasons listed above and then stories like the 16 year old in Spartanburg, SC who shot and killed a fire commissioner while allegedly high on acid a day or so ago
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Alprazolambodia said: Just the media LSD needs lol
Exactly, in my city, two teens who were 16 and 17 were doing acid together, then the one of them jumped out of the window from 4th floor because he was frightened, and thought his friend was gonna kill him... Whenever I tell people about L, this is just what they bring up.. And it really is hard to counter that with an argument, other than it is really rare, and some people just aren't meant to take psychedelics
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So wack, that kid probably would have gotten too high if he smoked weed, and LSD was just too much for him
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23506183 - 08/03/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: LSD got caught up in the politics and the political zeitgeist of the 60s, and by association was demonized. Then Nixon came into power, and he famously hated the hippies and anything having to do with them, and he fought very hard to try to destroy anything that was associated with them.
And then of course stuff like the acid tests weren't great publicity. Good for exposing people to it, but very bad publicity. Although on the upside it did create the mythos of psychedelics without which perhaps psychedelics might not have survived as well as they did. So, good and bad publicity, but still there was bad publicity because of the stuff people did in the 60s.
People were reckless with psychedelics in the 60s, and today we're both paying the price and reaping the rewards. It's possible that if people weren't quite as reckless in the 60s, LSD would be schedule 2 or 3, but in exchange we'd have none of the psychedelic mythology and culture and knowledge and history that we do today.
This. Plus add The Charlie Manson killings at the worst possible time....that was pretty much the end until just a few years ago when science began to show some real interest in it again for therapeutic reasons.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23506221 - 08/03/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Too much psychedelics, You become the entertainment. We hardheaded people tend to forget the power of 400ug especially on the developing mind. At 16 200ug had me scared shitless. God knows what i might have done if i had a gun in that panicked state..
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#23506238 - 08/03/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The reason acid is called ACID is because you inject it directly into your spine and it's made out of rat poison and you turn into a dead rat and spill over as orange juice while your brain literally sizzles in the acid.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Sheekle]
#23506514 - 08/03/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Duh, everyone knows that
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23506713 - 08/03/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because not everybody's tried it yet.
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I've done the 250ug and yay but not the 3rd lol, btw L and yay is a wierd combo that I would only reccomend for strong minded individuals
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: psillyboy]
#23506927 - 08/03/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess that is true about under estimating, once u trip for a couple consecutive weeks it becomes ALOT easier to control your trip; I can control my trips almost as easily as I can control a weed high
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mike4aco]
#23506934 - 08/03/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A baller who can handle his shit XD
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: psillyboy]
#23506961 - 08/03/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For some reason I don't get panicked when a trip comes on quick or gets a bit intense, I just sit back and watch the world morph with my mouth wide open. I've had to talk to authority figures with such gnarly visuals that I could barely see(everything had a white tiny to it and every time I moved my eyes I would see 30+ visuals every couple seconds, suuuuppper gnarly but it didn't panick me. I was 18 at the time
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23506975 - 08/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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People in BC, Canada think this way as well. Same with the "magic mushrooms are slightly poisonous" myth. The one I hear a lot is flashbacks, that's what people here think might happen. I'm one out of maybe...4 people that I know who've done L and would do it again in their early 20's. The stigma that comes with these drugs is the same reason I had no friends at the end of grade 12. Everyone was a pretentious ass that thought they knew everything about drugs, whilst I was reading and doing mushrooms quite a bit by my lonesome. Changed me for the better and I've turned pretty much everyone I know onto mushrooms, but most people that VERY occasionally do psyches to begin with cant handle the idea of a half day trip, that's what I've found anyway.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: AstralAndrew]
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Some guy asked me for shrooms and i said i only have enough for myself but ill see what i can do. Then i asked if he wants some LSD if i find a good source and he goes "LSD? what the fuck?" its like dude you are down for shrooms, why does a drug with such a similar method of action put you off so much that when someone offers it to you you are surprised. To me that just shows that he hasnt done his research so im not going to hook him up. If he chooses not to do it because its a street drug that could be fake or what ever then thats his choice but he clearly just thinks it will fry his brain or some shit.
Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23507109 - 08/03/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
By far my favorite claim from all the retards in these parts..
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23507124 - 08/03/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lolol i was the same way, dropped L for the first time my senior year, word got around in less Han one school day and I was immediately labeled as a "fried druggy" for the rest of the year. Eh fuck it highschool is filled with a whole bunch of judge mental kids. I'm glad I dissacosiated myself from those people because it has bettered me in many ways; I am forced to handle problems on my own, make my own decisions without worrying about how people I'll interpret it, the list goes on. The best is when someone who has been known to talk down on psychs R even weed try's it and immediately takes back everything they said, like nah man you gave me the stink eye for two years im not giving u any sort of drug...
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23507137 - 08/03/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like we are dealing with the same type of person; an unfortunate misguided being who will either learn on his own or miss out on a hell of a ride. People like that in my opinion don't even deserve to try it. They want to automatically be close minded about a drug and judge people who use it? Ok then I hope they never try it... Hahha so funny how people think acid is literally ACID that eats holes in ur brain... And as for shrooms, the chemical compound is very similar
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia] 1
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people escalate nothing wrong with LSD but when people escalate the dose and make wild recommendations to newbies, then the shit hits the fan.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: redgreenvines]
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23507201 - 08/03/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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it can turn the abnormal people into normal people?? turn on yo
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
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Absolutely.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: AstralAndrew]
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Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
By far my favorite claim from all the retards in these parts..
So good hahah, either that or the holes in your brain
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Blazer420]
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This is when your quote "...until I realized life was cut wih morons" is very relatable
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23507288 - 08/03/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Someone once told me that LSD is the same as crack and I hysterically laughed at him.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SonicTitan]
#23507294 - 08/03/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It goes into your spine and stays there forever. One dose can make you legally retarded so watch out man. I cracked my back once and had a level 18 trip
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#23507320 - 08/03/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't spill me man/
Bud level 18 trips are where its at.. I crack my back every night before bed for this reason.
I read that you can't be a pilot if you have ingested LSD at any point in your life?
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23507457 - 08/03/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alprazolambodia said: I've done the 250ug and yay but not the 3rd lol, btw L and yay is a wierd combo that I would only reccomend for strong minded individuals
It's a rockstar combination that's for sure. LSD has this funny thing about it like it really likes to fuck with humanity for some reason and really has quite the 'physical' effect on the outside world even though it's only a chemical. It's like it alchemically brought things into existence and into the real world and has even caused people who haven't taken it to stick their head up their ass and make all these wild assumptions about it.
It's almost like the chemical itself is a misanthrope. I feel it also teaches a lesson about sadness and makes you kind of question and ponder if sadness is really even a negative emotion or not. LSD really has changed a lot of people and can do so at a scary rate to many people in a short amount of time and with very little of the actual chemical. It's almost too powerful for humanity. Or at least what we have come to accept as 'humanity'.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23507467 - 08/03/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Some guy asked me for shrooms and i said i only have enough for myself but ill see what i can do. Then i asked if he wants some LSD if i find a good source and he goes "LSD? what the fuck?" its like dude you are down for shrooms, why does a drug with such a similar method of action put you off so much that when someone offers it to you you are surprised. To me that just shows that he hasnt done his research so im not going to hook him up. If he chooses not to do it because its a street drug that could be fake or what ever then thats his choice but he clearly just thinks it will fry his brain or some shit.
Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
a lot of it is stigma, for example when i was in college i used to sell norco to this guy who lived down the hall from me. one day i didn't have any norco so i offered him some oxy instead and he was shocked and acted like i had just offered him crack or something, even though hydrocodone and oxycodone really aren't that different in what they do to you.
on the other hand, i think we should respect peoples stigmas even if they dont make logical sense because in a way its like drawing the line somewhere, even if where you draw it is arbitrary.
because i hesitated to draw lines with my own drug use, i ended up getting deeper into addiction than i would have, had i believed in the stigmas.
another example i once dated a religious girl who wouldn't use any illegal drugs because she believed it was a sin to break the law and she waited til she was 21 before trying alcohol also. you could look at her as being ultra naive (which she was) and stupid for trusting that the government actually had her interests in mind, but on the other hand who do you think ended up with a drug problem, her or me? Me of course. Irrational stigma against drugs can easily end up saving a person from catching an addiction.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SonicTitan]
#23507475 - 08/03/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know some girl who once claimed she cracked her back in dance recital and had an acid flashback
Making up something like that really fits her personality too, one of the phoniest damn people I ever met
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Sheekle]
#23507537 - 08/03/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never heard someone in person actually say bad things about LSD. Part of me thinks that might have to do with where I live though. I have heard people brag about it who (in retrospect) had obviously never done it.
I don't get why people want to brag about doing LSD especially people who have never actually done it.
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That 2nd paragraph is spot on.. I ALWAYS think about that while tripping; how does 2 drops of a substance get my mind so twisted and inebriated in such a pleasurable way. Since you brought up sadness and emotions, do you personally feel like your emotions have dulled down while sober? For example, being out with your friends and they say something funny or sad, does it feel like your almost "forcing" your emotions?
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23507551 - 08/03/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I keep my use almost a complete secret, only carefully selected friends kno
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23507575 - 08/03/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Some guy asked me for shrooms and i said i only have enough for myself but ill see what i can do. Then i asked if he wants some LSD if i find a good source and he goes "LSD? what the fuck?" its like dude you are down for shrooms, why does a drug with such a similar method of action put you off so much that when someone offers it to you you are surprised. To me that just shows that he hasnt done his research so im not going to hook him up. If he chooses not to do it because its a street drug that could be fake or what ever then thats his choice but he clearly just thinks it will fry his brain or some shit.
Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
a lot of it is stigma, for example when i was in college i used to sell norco to this guy who lived down the hall from me. one day i didn't have any norco so i offered him some oxy instead and he was shocked and acted like i had just offered him crack or something, even though hydrocodone and oxycodone really aren't that different in what they do to you.
on the other hand, i think we should respect peoples stigmas even if they dont make logical sense because in a way its like drawing the line somewhere, even if where you draw it is arbitrary.
because i hesitated to draw lines with my own drug use, i ended up getting deeper into addiction than i would have, had i believed in the stigmas.
another example i once dated a religious girl who wouldn't use any illegal drugs because she believed it was a sin to break the law and she waited til she was 21 before trying alcohol also. you could look at her as being ultra naive (which she was) and stupid for trusting that the government actually had her interests in mind, but on the other hand who do you think ended up with a drug problem, her or me? Me of course. Irrational stigma against drugs can easily end up saving a person from catching an addiction.
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BANANA.MAN said: Some guy asked me for shrooms and i said i only have enough for myself but ill see what i can do. Then i asked if he wants some LSD if i find a good source and he goes "LSD? what the fuck?" its like dude you are down for shrooms, why does a drug with such a similar method of action put you off so much that when someone offers it to you you are surprised. To me that just shows that he hasnt done his research so im not going to hook him up. If he chooses not to do it because its a street drug that could be fake or what ever then thats his choice but he clearly just thinks it will fry his brain or some shit.
Ive had someone tell me that you can OD on shrooms.
a lot of it is stigma, for example when i was in college i used to sell norco to this guy who lived down the hall from me. one day i didn't have any norco so i offered him some oxy instead and he was shocked and acted like i had just offered him crack or something, even though hydrocodone and oxycodone really aren't that different in what they do to you.
on the other hand, i think we should respect peoples stigmas even if they dont make logical sense because in a way its like drawing the line somewhere, even if where you draw it is arbitrary.
because i hesitated to draw lines with my own drug use, i ended up getting deeper into addiction than i would have, had i believed in the stigmas.
another example i once dated a religious girl who wouldn't use any illegal drugs because she believed it was a sin to break the law and she waited til she was 21 before trying alcohol also. you could look at her as being ultra naive (which she was) and stupid for trusting that the government actually had her interests in mind, but on the other hand who do you think ended up with a drug problem, her or me? Me of course. Irrational stigma against drugs can easily end up saving a person from catching an addiction.
I've been in the same situation!!! One of my Homies who has only smoked weed(could barely handle it) and tried Prometh/codeine syrup once and asked me if I had anymore syzzurp; when I told him I was out of lean but had xanax or tramadol, he accuses me of trying to force drugs on him so he gets addicted. Like WHAT?!? how can you be so close minded to the point that you have tried lean but will not try a benzo or synthetic opiate simply because it's a "pill" and not in liquid form so he can post pictures bragging about his "dirty lean". I've had nother buddy of mine tell me I have a problem with amphetamines and uppers in general(years ago) yet he was sucking up an eight ball every 3-4 days. Some people are just so hard headed that they actually make things worse for them. ---as for the addiction, I completely agree with you. I started using when I was 14(not super young but not old) and I have just now (6yrs later) realized that I had an issue and that I had to stop. Luckily my Homie had some L and I fried for the first time in a year and immediately decided that LsD and weed are the drugs for me(with the occasional downer or upper)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SonicTitan]
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I've read that you can't be a pilot if you use LsD too, in fact one of my friends has tripped on mucks 5+ times but refuses to use LSD for that exact reason.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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My friend who im tripping on shrooms with tomorrow says that he would never try LSD or any research chemicals because it is synthetic. He has done LSA a bunch of times too, more than me. He does nootropics that dont occur in nature too.
I do not understand why people assume that something is safe because its natural, Or its dangerous because it isnt.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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BANANA.MAN said: My friend who im tripping on shrooms with tomorrow says that he would never try LSD or any research chemicals because it is synthetic. He has done LSA a bunch of times too, more than me. He does nootropics that dont occur in nature too.
I do not understand why people assume that something is safe because its natural, Or its dangerous because it isnt.
Because some people see evidence of design or balance in nature. I certainly don't think everything natural is safe, heck, I don't think life is safe. On the contrary to me life on earth seems inherently dangerous.
However, when it comes to my body and the experiences I have had with mind altering chemicals, I have noticed that for me, the natural entheogens have a certain balance, or signature to them, that reflects the natural balance or working of the universe.
They have risks no doubt, but to me the risks are always in line with the greater natural principles that govern existence.
On the other hand, when I have ingested synthetics, I have detected a different energy. They have the out of balance energy of man within them.
For examples I used to be dependent on benzodiazepines. THe withdrawal from those drugs was horrendous and completely out of my balance with my body and how things were supposed to work. Clearly whoever designed them had no understanding of how to make something that works with the human body rather than just on it.
In comparison with the natural sedatives, like kava, valerian, skullcap and mulungu bark, all of those have some kind of positive, healing action going on with them in addition to just sedation. None of them produce the horrendous withdrawal of the benzodiazepines.
Its obvious to me (and I realize this is controversial but I am simply being true to my experience) that there is a difference between these natural medicines and the man made ones.
This is also in line with what I said earlier in the thread about how the problems associated with cocaine and heroin are much greater than the risks of their natural counter parts, opium and coca leaf.
I think as a general rule of safe drug use, sticking to natural drugs is a very good rule, as they are by and large a lot safer.
I'm not saying all man made drugs are unsafe, I think LSD is pretty safe for example but keep in mind LSD has been studied more so than almost every other chemical. WHen it comes to RCs we really dont know much about them and their potential risks. And even though LSD is safe, I still find it lacks some of the balance of the natural entheogens and tends to be more abuseable.
MDMA is another drug which interests me, because on the one hand it has some unique therapeutic effects which cannot be found in any natural substance but on the other hand, is in my opinion, really bad for your body/mind and quite upsetting to its natural balance. This is why everyone says to take it so infrequently. Its a great example of how man operates vs how nature operates. MDMA the man made is so much more prone to abuse and so much more likely to cause mental/physical problems than its closest natural cousin (mescaline cactus). But it does have some therapuetic effects which mescaline lacks.
So to me it seems like man really struggles to make anything as elegant as what nature gives us.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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Alprazolambodia said: That 2nd paragraph is spot on.. I ALWAYS think about that while tripping; how does 2 drops of a substance get my mind so twisted and inebriated in such a pleasurable way. Since you brought up sadness and emotions, do you personally feel like your emotions have dulled down while sober? For example, being out with your friends and they say something funny or sad, does it feel like your almost "forcing" your emotions?
No for me it's actually the opposite. I had several life changing mushroom trips and I mean really life changing as in things were quite different even after the trip wore off. I've only had a few of these with LSD but wo am I kidding, one is all you need. Well I had one huge mushroom one in spring of 2013 and life was just changed forever and since then lots of things have been different and thoughts and emotions seem more amplified. I've gone through the pains of humanity while in mushroom realms and it really has stuck with me. I think these powerful ancient oral tryptamines like mushrooms, iboga and ayahuasca can change the way people connect with their emotions and even LSD I think does this to some extent but it seems these ancient substances can make life seem more like a spiritual primordial journey.
So no I don't feel I have to force emotions or laughter I actually feel like I have to hold a lot of it back. I am however MUCH less surprised by even outrageous things in everyday life/reality and no experience really 'thrills' me anymore or gives me something that changes my perspective (at least not drastically) and I am much more skeptical about things. I also can't be fake anymore which is hard. 2 dimensional reality just doesn't do justice to other places I have experienced and even though the world is much more beautiful after psychedelics it is still extremely dull in comparison.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
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What you said about benzos is so true, you think it would be possible to change any sort of benzo to a less harmful chemical? And also, what exactly does valerian root and those other natural sedatives you listed do? If I was struggling to sleep, taking any of those 4 natural sedatives would chance the chemical balance in my brain?(almost like mimicking a benzo?)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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Alprazolambodia said: What you said about benzos is so true, you think it would be possible to change any sort of benzo to a less harmful chemical? And also, what exactly does valerian root and those other natural sedatives you listed do?
Are you asking about something to replace benzos like just a safer alternative? I've heard of people using kratom for various things I have yet ti try it though to see what it's really all about.
I tried a few valerian pills several years ago and nothing ever happened, I think I may have smoked weed too and really nothing. My friend said if you mix it with alcohol you'll feel good but I don't know I never really had luck with it but there must be something more to it than what I was aware of back then so I kind of want to give it another shot.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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Alprazolambodia said: So this guy hits my line today asking if I have tried shrooms and if I would reccomend it. I told him how I preferred acid and he responds saying "yeah but I don't want my shit to fry" as if he's gunna become completely brain dead after taking acid, like cmon. But then he goes and pops 2 oxy's like its nothing. Another instance a few days ago was at work and somehow acid got brought up. My coworker then says "yeah I heard that if you take over 7 hits you are legally retarded"; why is it so common to meet people who think LSD is this crazy drug that consumes your brain and soul. Lol there loss, Its a bummer the Feds fucked sweet L's rep.
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Just commenting on the title of your post, because not many people have tried it.. In a word speculation.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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BANANA.MAN said: My friend who im tripping on shrooms with tomorrow says that he would never try LSD or any research chemicals because it is synthetic. He has done LSA a bunch of times too, more than me. He does nootropics that dont occur in nature too.
I do not understand why people assume that something is safe because its natural, Or its dangerous because it isnt.
I'm pretty sure HBWR seeds are way more harmful than 2C-B. Done both and the dose of LSA that made me trip good felt more like a poison than a psychedelic. Which makes sense because they contain poison. INTENSE dry mouth, bad vasoconstriction that lasts past psychedelic effects, profuse vomiting and nausea that lasted long into the night after trip. I tried to sleep. Felt cold, had some awful pain in my abdomen and felt delirious. The trip was long gone, but just started getting scary. Seriously thought I might not wake up.
2C-B ,a "research chemical"(a term I detest) to most, feels quite clean to me.
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2C-B is scheduled in canada so its not really a research chem, and starting october 31st 2016 all 2Cs will be aswell. Also i think alot of people are starting to consider 2C-B and 2C-I classic psychedelics now.
Its just funny because LSA is an ergoline like LSD but he wont try LSD because its not natural.
Also wow those effects sound horrible. We used Morning Glory seeds which have a lower concentration of the stuff that makes you sick. On the worst one so far, I just had stomach pain and muscle tension in my limbs for 2 hours and then after that wore off i was tripping.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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That sounds like an experience I would only want a couple time
And I know people like that too it just makes me shake my head
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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Yeah I acctually gave the rest of my seeds to that friend. Its not worth it when i have mushrooms lol.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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BANANA.MAN said: 2C-B is scheduled in canada so its not really a research chem, and starting october 31st 2016 all 2Cs will be aswell. Also i think alot of people are starting to consider 2C-B and 2C-I classic psychedelics now.
Na
Definitely a big na right there the 2Cs can never be considered classic psychedelics. Even things like ayahuasca and LSA are not considered "classic psychedelics".
The classic psychedelics will always just be mescaline, LSD, shrooms and DMT Literally anything else is not and cannot be considered a classic psych.
The classic psychedelics don't kill people either and that's kind of a big one. The 2Cs really can't be considered anything other than relatively "common psychedelics".
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Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
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No that is definitely not an opinion. The classic psychedelics are the classic psychedelics, it's not simply what one "views" as being classic. It's not different for everyone.
You think mescaline, shrooms, LSD and DMT being the classics is something I chose? It's not. They are the classic psychs it's already been established. It's no one's opinion that's just the facts of the matter.
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2C-B is better than LSD, Shrooms, DMT, and AS good as mescaline.
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You think mescaline, shrooms, LSD and DMT being the classics is something I chose? It's not. They are the classic psychs it's already been established. It's no one's opinion that's just the facts of the matter.
I'm gunna have to side with you, that would be like a new type of pill coming out but considering it a "classic" because it gives similar effects to an actual classic. RC's aren't Classic is a very known thing
Now just because it's not a "classic" doesn't mean it's not just as powerful, it's just simply not one of the classic psychs. Maybe just maybe in younger generations will they be considered "classic" by all psychonauts
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: 2C-B is better than LSD, Shrooms, DMT, and AS good as mescaline.
He wasn't saying it's not, he's simply stating that it is not one of the classic psychs from the psych revolution...
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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The only reason someone might die from 2C-B and not mescaline is because 2C-B is far more active and one can actually afford a lethal dose.
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Just depends what you're looking for. If you're looking for something more "exotic" or far out and zany/alien one would probably prefer mushrooms or DMT.
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But since you claim that it's better it makes me curious lol, I've never got my hands on 2C-B I've never tried DMT but that's a pretty far fetched statement from what I've heard about DMT
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And just because something is considered a "classic psychedelic" doesn't mean it's superior.
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: The only reason someone might die from 2C-B and not mescaline is because 2C-B is far more active and one can actually afford a lethal dose.
what would be a lethal dose? Out of curiosity
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: 2C-B is better than LSD, Shrooms, DMT, and AS good as mescaline.
But since you claim that it's better it makes me curious lol, I've never got my hands on 2C-B I've never tried DMT but that's a pretty far fetched statement from what I've heard about DMT
I'll give DMT this, it's more visually complex. I like it a lot actually, but in and of itself it's no big deal. I've have much more powerful insights from other psychedelics. I think some of the times I've felt most alive was at the peak of a 2C-B trip. It can be a very magical feeling if you allow it to be. It's something of a deep feeling of unity with all of the physical world. Aurora is correct in that it is not as introspective or alien as mushrooms, but the trade off is an experience that surpasses both MDMA and LSD in it's empathic effects. If taken in typical doses it is not that impressive, but by raiser the dose still well within safe limits it produces an experience similar to a high dose of mescaline.
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: The only reason someone might die from 2C-B and not mescaline is because 2C-B is far more active and one can actually afford a lethal dose.
what would be a lethal dose? Out of curiosity
A LD50 I don't believe has been established, although I've been testing out what doses feel ok on the body with no obvious side effects and have my ideas. Don't think I'm allowed to go into detail here. You'll have to wait till I publish, probably when were all old.
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Some folks just aren't ready to have their mind opened up and to bear witness to the truth of who and what they are. Its rough if you can't let go of some things. Maybe for some people that means adverse outcomes, but the research generally has shown that it can be an amazing tool of healing and growth.
I would recommend to anyone who feels it "fries your brain" to go study Hoffman, and see how clear and intelligent he was even as a very elderly man. He was so smart he was synthesizing LSA from scratch before anyone even knew it was in plants. You don't get on the Nobel Prize committee with a fried brain.
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Klompen said: Some folks just aren't ready to have their mind opened up and to bear witness to the truth of who and what they are. Its rough if you can't let go of some things. Maybe for some people that means adverse outcomes, but the research generally has shown that it can be an amazing tool of healing and growth.
I would recommend to anyone who feels it "fries your brain" to go study Hoffman, and see how clear and intelligent he was even as a very elderly man. He was so smart he was synthesizing LSA from scratch before anyone even knew it was in plants. You don't get on the Nobel Prize committee with a fried brain.
The simple truth of the matter with intellectual pursuits it that your only limit is the one that you imagine for yourself. Your only as smart as you think you are.
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Unfortunately one is also only as dumb as they aren't aware they are
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We'll see in another 30 or so years won't we.
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Your only as smart as you think you are.
But what if you think you're incredibly smart when you aren't?
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Your only as smart as you think you are.
But what if you think you're incredibly smart when you aren't?
I think that describes someone here, I wonder who?
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: We'll see in another 30 or so years won't we.
Odds are pretty high we'll both be dead in 30 years so I doubt it.
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: Your only as smart as you think you are.
But what if you think you're incredibly smart when you aren't?
I think that describes someone here, I wonder who?
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
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SyzygisticSoul said: I have a very close family member struggling with opiates at the moment; it's not worth it. It truly hurts seeing someone you love struggle with that shit.
My father died of an alcohol and xanex overdose.
I feel your pain.
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Alprazolambodia said: Yeah I kno what you mean I used to do the same but I've realized it's honestly better to just shut my trap and only discuss psychs with intellectual and open minded people. Around my area, if someone hears you dropped L you are immediately known as a "crazy DRUG user"
Soooooooo true. I don't even bother entertaining the idea of a conversation about shrooms, LSD, or anything of the sort with anyone who is close-minded. It's just not worth it, and no matter what I or anyone else says 98% of those people are not going to change their minds. The human mind is disturbingly mold-able and the way you were raised, past experiences especially ones where family members have had drug problems, and other things are absolute contraindications for some. And those that have had these experiences but are still ok with it probably have been raised to be open minded and respectful of others opinions.
Even though they may be hard to find, there are those open minded, chill folks (like my roommate), who don't do any drugs themselves but are not judgemental in the least bit and are actually very supportive and interested in the benefits of psycho-active drugs. I've had many long conversations with her explaining how LSD and shrooms are therapy for the depression and anxiety that I've dealt with my entire life.
It does suck though that this therapy is illegal and that it does have such a bad rep.
I have hope for the day where psycho-active drugs can be used to help sufferers nation and world wide.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: PickleJam]
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LSD is advertised as a drug that makes you lose your mind because it kind of can do so if you aren't careful. It can be very emotionally intense which can lead to difficult experiences, but also incredible epiphanies about yourself and the world. Both of these factors plus the events during the counterculture era led the government to go all out on breaking the legs of the substance. Telling people lies such as it destroys your brain, will make you jump off a balcony, or even get addicted.
It doesn't help that its lumped in schedule 1 substances with the likes of Heroin, Coke, Meth etc which are admittedly quite dangerous in the vast majority of instances. Not to mention that it's not exactly easy to find LSD for most part, as its difficult to manufacture and it isn't actually addictive contrary to what you often hear meaning it isn't as easily profitable. This leads to not many people actually trying it themselves and just going off what they hear on TV or over the grapevine in their day to day lives.
It's quite sad, as LSD is a beautiful substance that can teach one so much about themselves, other people, and the world we inhabit together.
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