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Alprazolambodia
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Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/
#23503722 - 08/02/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So this guy hits my line today asking if I have tried shrooms and if I would reccomend it. I told him how I preferred acid and he responds saying "yeah but I don't want my shit to fry" as if he's gunna become completely brain dead after taking acid, like cmon. But then he goes and pops 2 oxy's like its nothing. Another instance a few days ago was at work and somehow acid got brought up. My coworker then says "yeah I heard that if you take over 7 hits you are legally retarded"; why is it so common to meet people who think LSD is this crazy drug that consumes your brain and soul. Lol there loss, Its a bummer the Feds fucked sweet L's rep.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia] 1
#23503794 - 08/02/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reefer madness
The War on Drugs
It's all bullshit.
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Alprazolambodia
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Canadian Jesus]
#23503807 - 08/02/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahha straight up! Whatever means more for us lol
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503816 - 08/02/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never knew LSD got bad rap. Where I am, weed is really popular and everything else is whatever to most people.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503836 - 08/02/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahha straight up! Whatever means more for us lol
Sadly, it means less for us, since persistent misinformation like that is why we have our psychotic drug policies.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia] 1
#23503862 - 08/02/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well aside from the research chemicals that make things much more dangerous LSD can be a dangerous substance and I think the bigger myth among the psychedelic community is that in fact LSD is completely harmless.
People really can lose their shit on it from time to time, especially those who were not all there to begin with anyway, but that too is often an excuse people tell themselves- that ah he was nuts anyway.
Set and setting is vital and with bad sets, and settings with high doses or cannabis almost anyone can mess up if the conditions are not right. How can anyone ever really know how the set or setting will develop once it starts. Psychedelic drug taking is always a bit of a dice roll.
Drugs like X or Oxy might be more dangerous long term but are alot less unpredictable for your average person and hence much more popular.
If you binge on LSD or take it too late in the day it also really can be a rather tormenting and torturous stimulant that keeps you up for hours of anxious tension rahter like an amphetamine comedown and in comparison to a nice short dose of mushrooms or Ayahuasca does really frazzle your brain (not literally!) for a while.
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Alprazolambodia
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503864 - 08/02/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very true; luckily I'm in Cali rn so I can get endless amounts
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503870 - 08/02/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think part of it is it street name "acid" it sounds foreboding to people that know nothing about chemistry.
Then there is the urban myths.
Whenever people bring all that bullshit bought lsd i remind them of how safe it is on the body/lack of ods causing death, and get into how it was legal for many many years and even the cia used it extensively for testing ect
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: wolf8312]
#23503893 - 08/02/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see where your coming from, in my opinion I believe that people can either handle psychs or they can't, simple as that(at least for low doses that is lol). If the person is comfortable with an abnormal feeling in their body and unusual thought patterns, it can be handled very well. From my experience, people who can't handle being super high in the first place are usually the ones who end up having "bad trips". And in my area, Xanax and opiates are poppin right now and poeple are selling a shit ton pressed pills(usually with Seroquil, but one person even found low quality coke and amphetamines pressed into a bar). If u kno the right people and are an experienced drug user and have taken various drugs from multiple categories of mind altering ubstances, then LSD can be relatively safe; but every drug has risk
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: LuckeyMA]
#23503901 - 08/02/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I kno what you mean I used to do the same but I've realized it's honestly better to just shut my trap and only discuss psychs with intellectual and open minded people. Around my area, if someone hears you dropped L you are immediately known as a "crazy DRUG user"
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Mo0se]
#23503911 - 08/02/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Drugs like X or Oxy might be more dangerous long term but are alot less unpredictable for your average person and hence much more popular.
This is true people pop oxy like its nothing because it is nothing in terms of the effect its going to have on your mind. LSD can be a challenging, mind opening, spiritual even life changing experience, whereas oxy has completely different risks.
Just because many on the shroomery value the spiritual effects of LSD and consider them as a positive, does not mean that will be thought of that way or that they should be thought of that way by the average person.
Some people don't want their whole sense of reality shattered by a drug and a good dose of LSD can definitely do that. Just because it is physically safe does not mean its something everyone can handle mentally.
Many of us here on the shroomery get quite anxious before we trip, while we do not get anxious before smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer even though statistically we have a much bigger chance of dying from smoking and drinking than psychedelics.
As for why LSD is considered more risky than shrooms, I believe it is because of the 1960s counter culture and the response to it (demonizing the drugs). Back then there were no home growing mushroom methods, so LSD and cannabis became the drugs of the hippie counter culture. A lot of the propaganda put out about LSD and cannabis originated in the 60s and still exists today.
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/02/16 11:05 PM)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23503922 - 08/02/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a very close family member struggling with opiates at the moment; it's not worth it. It truly hurts seeing someone you love struggle with that shit.
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Alprazolambodia
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Peyote Road]
#23503947 - 08/02/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Completely agree, I guess it all comes down to preference; I used to love taking benzos or popping any pills for that matter, but now I feel the only drugs that are even worth i are the two best drugs; cannabis and LSD, with the occasional use of other substances. As for getting nervous before tripping, I usually don't have any anxiety before trippin but get a very minor amount around the 30 minute mark so I tend to smoke @ that time so my mind gets preoccupied with the weed high and next thing you know your frying dick lol
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23503950 - 08/02/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's sad, 1 in 3 Americans!
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23503954 - 08/02/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh I know, I have been through heroin addiction myself. It's the worst. I believe addicts should be given opium maintenance. Opium is a lot safer and harder to OD on than heroin.
alcohol addiction is really bad also. But what I am saying is, you can't just convert all the alcoholics and junkies by telling them LSD is safer because LSD tends to make people look at the exact things they are running from when they drink or do opiates. That can be a good thing if they are willing to look and change themselves, but if they are unwilling to change then its detrimental.
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/02/16 11:16 PM)
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23503969 - 08/02/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD got caught up in the politics and the political zeitgeist of the 60s, and by association was demonized. Then Nixon came into power, and he famously hated the hippies and anything having to do with them, and he fought very hard to try to destroy anything that was associated with them.
And then of course stuff like the acid tests weren't great publicity. Good for exposing people to it, but very bad publicity. Although on the upside it did create the mythos of psychedelics without which perhaps psychedelics might not have survived as well as they did. So, good and bad publicity, but still there was bad publicity because of the stuff people did in the 60s.
People were reckless with psychedelics in the 60s, and today we're both paying the price and reaping the rewards. It's possible that if people weren't quite as reckless in the 60s, LSD would be schedule 2 or 3, but in exchange we'd have none of the psychedelic mythology and culture and knowledge and history that we do today.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23503988 - 08/02/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree i think people were reckless because they didnt understand the long term commitment that psychedelic spirituality is. when you first take psychedelics they can seem like an instant shortcut to peace, enlightenment and utopian existence where everyone just loves each other. thats what happens when a generation of young people suddenly take LSD, they go wild with the euphoria of spiritual discovery.
but few are ready for the long term commitment of integrating the shadow self that comes afterward.
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: nooneman]
#23504034 - 08/02/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response, I wasn't aware of nixons hate of psychs!
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Alprazolambodia
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23504040 - 08/02/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Goes to show everyone gets high for different reasons... I'm lucky im not in the category of users who drown themselves in drugs to forget about something, hopefully it Stays that way
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Re: Why does LSD have such a bad reputation:/ [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23504047 - 08/02/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh yes, nixon despised drugs and drug users. one of his aids was recently quoted as saying that they concocted the war on drugs because they knew many of their biggest political opponents were drug users.
making a "war on drugs" allowed them legal license to go in and raid the headquarters of their opponents. All of a sudden they could go arrest a guy for having a joint in his pocket. a lot of the laws against drugs are not based on science but rather a desire to legally harass the group of people they were associated with. even today drug laws are enforced in such a way as to marginalize black folks.
i believe the irony and the real losers is the poor parents who just want their kids to be safe. for example, think about all the heart broken parents who have lost their children in this day and age to heroin overdoses.
well, fact of the matter is that the war on drugs is what keeps the much safer, milder plant entheogen opium out of the country and instead makes it much more profitible to turn it into the highly addictive, highly dangerous substance known as heroin.
the parents think the government is trying to keep their kids safe by illegalizing drugs when the truth is that if we had legal and regulated drugs kids would in most cases be a lot safer.
of course you cant prevent all overdoses, but imagine if we legalized and regulated all the natural plant drugs frist. how many kids would turn to the needle if they could get their hands on cheap, high quality smoking opium? I am guessing not very many. This would save the lives of countless addicts while allowing them to be functioning productive members of society.
but such a solution would make too much sense, especially after we've been bombarded witht he idea that drugs are evil and kids legally smoking opium would just be considered too scandalous. better to let them risk overdosing on heroin apparently.
the same thing goes for cocaine. in south america south americans have been getting high chewing coca leaves for centuries with no ill health effects. but here in the USA coca leafs are illegal so if you want a lift you have to turn to the highly pure, highly dangerous illegal extract of the plant known as cocaine.
i realize no one is going to listen to me, but returning to natural plant highs could really do so much toward curbing the harm our nation is experiencing from "drugs".
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/02/16 11:49 PM)
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