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Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion.
    #23502839 - 08/02/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm using pine sawdust and Phoenix Oysters.  Yeah, hate it.  Since I'm in a big ass pine forest with few if any hardwoods I wanted to know what I might be up against should I do the local sawdust route.  Perhaps straw will be better for me, will try that next.

But in the meantime, I spawned to two 2.5 gallon ziplock bags, 1.5L water, 1Kg wood pellets.  The bags have no holes, just grabbed some polyfill and shoved it in the zipper and zipped it up to hold it into place.  I've gotten some growth but it was less than impressive.

One thing I noticed is that I got a whole lot of growth at the very top of the bag where it was getting air via the polyfill in the zipper.  The lower areas have much less growth.

So my question is, what do I do with the bags?

Add more polyfill. 
Cut slits in the bag and or shove in more polyfill
Cut slits and no polyfill
Empty the bag into a plastic bin.
Leave it alone.

My environment is very dry.  20%-30% RH on a good day so if I increase air flow I'm going to have to spray them.  I'm assuming stop spraying when you see pinning applies.  Working on a fruiting chamber with controlled humidity but it won't be ready for a couple weeks.

I'm a bit confused by what oysters want.  Do they like more air?  They grew fine on WBS in jars.  Is my moisture content slowing them down?  I thought that but then when I saw the growth at the top of the bag it seemed to suggest air flow.


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: quetzel]
    #23506682 - 08/03/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

According to Stamets phoenix wants straw more than sawdust. 
Is the sawdust from rough cut processing or kiln dried planks?
Pic of the bag?  Are you going to fruit from the bag?


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: quetzel]
    #23507386 - 08/03/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

how did you prep all of this? do you have pics?


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: anthiawe]
    #23507754 - 08/03/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I know it wants straw but right now I got sawdust from wood pellets.

I was planning on fruiting from the bag. 

Shit grows fine in jars with tiny holes and wbs.  Logic says it doesn't like my ten cents per pound pellets and I need to think about using another substrate.

I'm fine with that.  I just do what the mushrooms tell me to do.

Ain't gonna be no hardwood pellets till winter and even then they probably be special order, pallet minimum.  The horror of living in a pine forest.

I'm guessing put this in a corner and eat it in three month cause it grows slower than shit.  Maybe turn it into spawn.

Prep....

Mix 1kg lignite wood pellets with 1.5l water.  Pasteurize in hill and billy brand automated pasteurizer at 160F for two hours.  Spawn with 2 pints wbs.  Shove into closet.

I'd take pictures but it's 2.5 kilos of sawdust and water with some splotches of fungus.  Ziplock bag with 2" of polyfill shoved into end of zipper. Notes say it was spawned on 7/25.  It's 8/3.  Seems like forever but maybe I'm being impatient.  Maybe I'm wrong on the date, I'm dyslexic but 7/52 don't seem right for a date.  Fucking numbers, there are too damn many of them.

Anyway, from what I have read Cubes don't like air until they are fully colonized and ready to fruit.  Are oysters the same or do I need to give them more air and spray with water occasionally to compensate for the loss?


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: quetzel]
    #23516754 - 08/06/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Poked some holes.  Seems to have sped up a bit.


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: quetzel]
    #23517191 - 08/06/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Patience it takes quite a while even after colonized to fruit.I think some Phoenix fruit in clusters and some more individually. Watch for pins at poked holes and cut a hole for them.


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Re: Oyster on Sawdust, airflow confusion. [Re: Quadman]
    #23521893 - 08/08/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's at maybe 20% colonization but it is spreading so that is good.  I used WBS left over from GLC after it recovered.  Now that spawn production is ramping up I will be able to try a bunch of different sample substrates to see what I like.


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