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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
#23502436 - 08/02/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: Why don't you write a letter to Donald Trump asking him?
i don't have to. he answers any question i have with his open and honest rhetoric. sure he's not perfect but he's been successful in a system that is full of flaws. the race issue comes down to a hypothetical scenario. if a japanese guy goes to his gf's house for dinner and that girl's grandpa fought in WW2... he's more inclined to make negative assumptions about the his granddaughter's bf than not and the reason is because of what people did in the past. obviously the kid wasn't born with a knowledge of pearl harbor and an opinion on the matter. we're all walking around in t-shirts that say something about us but no one chooses their race. yet people are held accountable for things that they had nothing to do with. and people want debts paid for crimes that they themselves didn't even endure.
ignoring the comedic goldmine of trump, I get where you are coming from with your example. It is not however, completely analogous to all racial or cultural divides. WW2, while having a big impact and all that, is not even remotely the same as the treatment of african americans in america for example, throughout history. You are right to say that white people, as individuals, should not be blamed for the history of race conflict, slavery etc, since they -as individuals- had nothing to do with it. That is indeed an aspect of racism dear to many so called lefties, the 'lets hate on whitey' attitude. That however represents a loud-mouthed minority of an otherwise, imo, laudable movement towards ameliorating suffering and disparity. The reason it is important to address the race issue, not in either the fashion of talk radio or angry riots, is because the effects of history are still being felt, and even kept alive by some bigoted groups. Even if there is no systemic racism in america NOW, there was in he past, and its effects are still being felt. That is the biggest issue imo that needs to be addressed honestly and openly by both parties.
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Kinyptor]
#23502440 - 08/02/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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People want a God like power. To create the heavens for the chosen ones and the hell's for all opposing.
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma] 1
#23502505 - 08/02/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dig your post Ezuma.. really makes me reconsider my views
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23502522 - 08/02/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never thought of race as a big deal. Not like it doesn't exist or anything, I just don't see why it matters so much. I get prejudice/being cautious based on past experiences, yeah, but in general generalizations are too general. Why would you want to close a whole part of your mind just because your uncle's mother's husband got robbed by a big mean scary black dude? Racism is really just a cocktail of ignorance and close-mindedness. But I also feel like people are way too easily offended now.
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Ezuma said: and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists
I pay almost 0 attention to the media, it comes to me only through friends and here, so I don't really know about the first part of your post, but I have noticed an odd phenomenon on The Shroomery; the American members here seem to get seriously riled up about the topic. I think our demographic is about 50% Americans, so it might just be that, but I do sometimes question if the media there is just more skilled at getting people riled up..
I kinda saw the same thing happen for the first time en masse in London when that whole brexit thing was going down.
What are your thoughts on it?
Of course we get riled up about it because it's shoved down our throats daily. You guys don't have rich black guys talking to poor-middle class white people about white privilege while black people are becoming paranoid based on false statistics to the point they're going out chanting about killing cops and white people and actually doing it then getting praise for it all over social media and white people are getting banned or censored on those same platforms for sharing their opinions on the matter because it's "offensive" to minorities. Similar scenarios when it comes to Muslims here whenever some kind of tragedy happens. It's all about blacks/Muslims vs whites here with a little Latino or something else thrown in the mix, essentially anyone can say anything unless they're white, otherwise they're a racist. And while all this is happening, you got the Asians to the side just quietly succeeding and probably laughing at all of us
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
#23502529 - 08/02/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bass head said: i dig your post Ezuma.. really makes me reconsider my views
really or is this sarcasm? I can't tell
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Eminence]
#23502536 - 08/02/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists
I pay almost 0 attention to the media, it comes to me only through friends and here, so I don't really know about the first part of your post, but I have noticed an odd phenomenon on The Shroomery; the American members here seem to get seriously riled up about the topic. I think our demographic is about 50% Americans, so it might just be that, but I do sometimes question if the media there is just more skilled at getting people riled up..
I kinda saw the same thing happen for the first time en masse in London when that whole brexit thing was going down.
What are your thoughts on it?
Of course we get riled up about it because it's shoved down our throats daily. You guys don't have rich black guys talking to poor-middle class white people about white privilege while black people are becoming paranoid based on false statistics to the point they're going out chanting about killing cops and white people and actually doing it then getting praise for it all over social media and white people are getting banned or censored on those same platforms for sharing their opinions on the matter because it's "offensive" to minorities. Similar scenarios when it comes to Muslims here whenever some kind of tragedy happens. It's all about blacks/Muslims vs whites here with a little Latino or something else thrown in the mix, essentially anyone can say anything unless they're white, otherwise they're a racist. And while all this is happening, you got the Asians to the side just quietly succeeding and probably laughing at all of us 
y u mad tho?
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sheekle]
#23502541 - 08/02/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Because people are annoying and boring or something
Well you have my vote.
Move out the way STAL and trump, sheekle 2016!
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma]
#23502543 - 08/02/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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lmfao i was being serious
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Because people like you are just loving all the drama for some strange reason. I refuse to become one of the cowardice white Americans that walk on egg shells with what they say out of fear of being called a racist while everyone else is constantly talking shit about whites and condoning hatred towards white people. I'm just going to tough out all this creepy SJW nonsense, eventually people will see how bad they're ruining this place. It's already happening fortunately, just slowly
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Eminence] 1
#23502565 - 08/02/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you have a rather warped perspective.
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Eminence]
#23502569 - 08/02/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i like how you say people like me and then you describe what you're not willing to do.. which is something that i never intended for you to do to begin with. cheers
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Is the hate against white people really that bad? I know cops have to watch there backs but wow.
If you're black, you have to watch your back around white people. If you're white you have to watch your back around black people, and muslims, and other white people who 'hate racism'. If you're muslim you have to watch your back around white people and cops. If you're a cop you have to watch your back around black people. What a time to be alive.
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sinopia]
#23502587 - 08/02/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't feel like I have to watch my back around anybody except TSA scanners
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Sophistic Radiance said: except TSA scanners
Why's that?
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
#23502612 - 08/02/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bass head said: i like how you say people like me and then you describe what you're not willing to do.. which is something that i never intended for you to do to begin with. cheers
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Eminence]
#23502621 - 08/02/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i don't like drama.. i'm just seeking explanations.. it sounded like you felt that being white is something that is frowned upon. i never intended for that to be the case
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sinopia]
#23502623 - 08/02/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've battled with racism inside myself. Having a racist father and a racist Grandfather. Not extremely racist but they were your average white guy from the 1930's and 1940's. Then when it started to become an issue for me I rejected it and it was very traumatic. A persistent subconscious spirit manifests itself in ugly ways. All this race talk in the media and online let's us work on ourselves a little better. Working with logic and reasoning is a lot healthier than subconscious forces. The schools I went to were white people also. So I don't really know how to blame or dislike for the world that is around us. Mostly I enjoy the world because people mind their own business. Yet I know everyday that there are people out there that want to persuade and take advantage. No matter what their race is there is a power struggle. Cannot legislate a power structure that is always safe. I cannot even read the law without thinking someones really twisted.
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Sophistic Radiance said: except TSA scanners
Why's that?
Because I confuse them One time they showed me a little screen that had the crotch highlighted in yellow as an "anomaly". That shit is hawk-ward
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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
#23502626 - 08/02/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bass head said: lmfao i was being serious
oh good that's actually nice to hear in that case
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