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All This Race Talk..
    #23502284 - 08/02/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't get it.. why is it that when things are going well everyone sees the similarities that we share and race is never mentioned.  but when things go bad, race is suddenly to blame and it's the reason for all of the dysfunction.  can someone enlighten me?


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
    #23502311 - 08/02/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Every bad situation needs a scapegoat.


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head] * 5
    #23502315 - 08/02/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well not exactly answering your question, but currently we have the likes of trump, pointing to racial divides constantly, his followers who abhor blacks, hispanics etc, and then you have the shrill supposedly left media shouting 'racist' every chance they get and purposely stirring up controversy, and on the other side right wing media coyly denying any of it and then themselves stirring up hate towards immigrants etc, and all the generally well-meaning buffoons in the middle who pick sides based on what they're used to hearing, and just wish the whole thing would go away

and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
    #23502341 - 08/02/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Because people are annoying and boring or something


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #23502344 - 08/02/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Because people are annoying and boring or something




that's the short answer essentially


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23502347 - 08/02/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists



I pay almost 0 attention to the media, it comes to me only through friends and here, so I don't really know about the first part of your post, but I have noticed an odd phenomenon on The Shroomery; the American members here seem to get seriously riled up about the topic. I think our demographic is about 50% Americans, so it might just be that, but I do sometimes question if the media there is just more skilled at getting people riled up..

I kinda saw the same thing happen for the first time en masse in London when that whole brexit thing was going down.

What are your thoughts on it?


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma] * 2
    #23502349 - 08/02/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Good observation.

Generally race becomes a problem whenever our ruling class wants to go to war. Since most wars are for profit, at least definitely the wars in the Middle East are, and generally the masses don't want war, the ruling class needs to get the masses to hate the people they are senselessly bombing so that they can go, occupy, set up trade routes and steal resources.

It's happened all throughout history, heck even with the Irish at one point when they were apparently the bad guys.

Just another way capitalism is fucking us all really.


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head] * 1
    #23502351 - 08/02/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Its because when things go bad, people wanna blame something for things going bad. And that something is a race of people.

Take Trump for example, claiming illegal immigrants are "rapists" and "crinimals".


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23502358 - 08/02/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists




you're a part of this community too.. that's a really stereotypical description of a group of people that have done quite a bit for the furthering of intelligent discussion on a controversial set of topics


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23502371 - 08/02/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists



I pay almost 0 attention to the media, it comes to me only through friends and here, so I don't really know about the first part of your post, but I have noticed an odd phenomenon on The Shroomery; the American members here seem to get seriously riled up about the topic. I think our demographic is about 50% Americans, so it might just be that, but I do sometimes question if the media there is just more skilled at getting people riled up..

I kinda saw the same thing happen for the first time en masse in London when that whole brexit thing was going down.

What are your thoughts on it?




I see a lot of american media (can't help in Kanukistan) and its pretty over the top, not just the right but the supposed left wing stuff is often just as bad. Fear mongering, buzzword obsessed negativity designed to divide the lower classes and keep them angry and afraid and therefore easily controlled. I don't watch much British media but it did seem the brexit thing was influenced by similar phenomena


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head] * 3
    #23502378 - 08/02/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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and then you've got the shroomery, and its bizarre mix of know-nothing teenagers, bleeding heart liberals, dazed hippies and frothing white supremacists




you're a part of this community too.. that's a really stereotypical description of a group of people that have done quite a bit for the furthering of intelligent discussion on a controversial set of topics




I fall somewhere between dazed hippie and bleeding heart liberal, if it makes you feel any better. I don't buy this 'the shroomery is so open' crap, at least not the pub. It's as bad as a youtube comment section, but it sure is fun


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23502381 - 08/02/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Democrats can only win if they keep the race war going


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23502385 - 08/02/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Or if the Republicians can scare the hell out of their own supporters, that they descide to jump ship and go Democrat.


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
    #23502390 - 08/02/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't get it.. why is it that when things are going well everyone sees the similarities that we share and race is never mentioned.  but when things go bad, race is suddenly to blame and it's the reason for all of the dysfunction.  can someone enlighten me?




Why don't you write a letter to Donald Trump asking him?


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head]
    #23502391 - 08/02/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Because people ignore reality until trauma opens up old wounds.


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23502395 - 08/02/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't get it.. why is it that when things are going well everyone sees the similarities that we share and race is never mentioned.  but when things go bad, race is suddenly to blame and it's the reason for all of the dysfunction.  can someone enlighten me?




Why don't you write a letter to Donald Trump asking him?




Write one to BLM while you're at it...


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23502403 - 08/02/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:no:


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23502404 - 08/02/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why don't you write a letter to Donald Trump asking him?




i don't have to.  he answers any question i have with his open and honest rhetoric.  sure he's not perfect but he's been successful in a system that is full of flaws.  the race issue comes down to a hypothetical scenario.  if a japanese guy goes to his gf's house for dinner and that girl's grandpa fought in WW2... he's more inclined to make negative assumptions about the his granddaughter's bf than not and the reason is because of what people did in the past.  obviously the kid wasn't born with a knowledge of pearl harbor and an opinion on the matter.  we're all walking around in t-shirts that say something about us but no one chooses their race.  yet people are held accountable for things that they had nothing to do with.  and people want debts paid for crimes that they themselves didn't even endure.


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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: bass head] * 1
    #23502409 - 08/02/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why don't you write a letter to Donald Trump asking him?




i don't have to.  he answers any question i have with his open and honest rhetoric.




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Re: All This Race Talk.. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23502416 - 08/02/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

People just want to feel like they belong. Sometimes the group they find themselves belonging to hates another group of people because of where they were born, skin color, sexual orientation, etc.


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