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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23600372 - 09/01/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I figure after harvest, I'll tape up the slit and focus on fruiting it out through the top. But what about these pins at the top? If the cluster is ready for harvest, and there's a  bunch of pins on another part, how do I go about dunking? I mean do I pull up all those little pins because I'm harvesting the mature ones, or can I dunk with this pinning? Thanks a lot for all your help, fellas!!


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23600387 - 09/01/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No they aren't done . They appear to need more light. Caps should grow toward light.Keep misting pins Put them near a bright window( not in direct sunlight or they will cook ) or cool white lamp.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Quadman]
    #23600398 - 09/01/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Alright.Glad to hear that.  I'll  go put it under a 6500k bulb


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Quadman]
    #23600403 - 09/01/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Dunk usually not needed. Keep plastic tent over open top til knots of pins form just like the side did.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Quadman]
    #23604125 - 09/02/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I harvested the mushrooms today, and something a little strange. They don't smell very good at all! Kind of smell like fish. Bacteria, I'm guessing??


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23604130 - 09/02/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23604379 - 09/02/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those look really weird. Don't know what to say. Terrible deformed. Cluster look fairly tight so air and light look to be sufficient. Maybe someone else can explain.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Quadman]
    #23604647 - 09/02/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you think they are still safe to eat? They taste REALLY good, (I just had a tiny cap), but that smell has me a little weirded out. They've been in the refrigerator for 4 hours now, and the smell seems to be going away


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23604785 - 09/02/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well if there is bacteria most are killed when cooked. Your call. They look more mutated to me.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Quadman]
    #23604991 - 09/02/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those are some trippy looking oysters!  Nice work getting them all the way through.  The conditions mushrooms grow in directly effect their morphology...that's why it's important to look at spores/DNA for exact identification of fungi...yours had less than ideal conditions at the beginning of the fruiting cycle leading to this funky looking fruit.  They should be perfectly fine to eat, however, you really shouldn't eat oyster mushrooms raw.  They produce hemolytic compounds (make you bleed) which irritate the digestive system.  Do they just smell really fungal?  I think the golds have a particularly strong odor...not unpleasant but definitely fungal/fishy.  They're also my favorite flavor-wise.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23605102 - 09/02/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the tip about raw oysters. That's news to me. And dosent smell fungal. It smells almost exactly like fish. Lol definitely eating em. tonight tho! Any ideas about what conditions caused such strange mutation or odor? Would like to avoid it next time, but just got some bad news. Went to check on the king trumpet in incubation, and.... Green


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23605112 - 09/02/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

    maybe salvageable outdoors


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23605322 - 09/02/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Typically it's a lack of FAE and insufficient light that cause deformations.  It could just be the variety as far as the odor goes, maybe someone else with experience with that variety can chime in.  Like I said, the golds definitely smell fishy, especially when they're really fruiting.  I didn't notice it with the wild strain of greys I'm growing, in fact, I have caught a faint whiff of anise off of the older ones.  I found some white ones one time and they tasted like black licorice...I put them on a pizza and didn't like it they were so strong.  Anyway, nice work; You should post a thread here or in cultivation about fruit body morphology and deformation due to improper fruiting conditions.  I'd put the contaminated bag outside...no reason to chance it.  When things cool off it might fruit.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23605534 - 09/02/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I see infection all over, a fishy smell is'nt a good sign.

I see mold, bacterial avoidance, discolouration.
Also those fruits are deformed, pathogens.

Sweet, fungal or no smell.

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Its typical for a fruiting species to attempt to remove toxins from substrates.
Both bacterial and mycelial infection can produce fatal toxins.

100% white or a general fail, thats the rule.

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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Ferather]
    #23605613 - 09/02/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ahh wait, the fishy smell, I always smelt phosphor.
Oysters use phosphor to produce pigments.

After reading this, its fishy.
My bad, I apologize.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Ferather]
    #23606196 - 09/02/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey thanks for the input. I don't understand what you are apologizing for. I really don't understand what that link is about, either. I think the gist of what you are saying is don't eat them??


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Russk]
    #23606491 - 09/02/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think he's saying don't worry about his previous statement that the fishy smell was due to bacteria as it is likely due to the compounds used to form the pigments in the mushrooms...I can't see the article for some reason.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23607103 - 09/03/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'll re-write the post because I have confused the issue, sorry.

You have mold and, or bacteria in the substrate.
The deformed caps are for this reason.

Eating them may cause damage.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Ferather]
    #23607193 - 09/03/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, Ferather! 
Hey Russk, I'd go with Ferather's advice but would definitely like to hear and see other opinions and experiences/pics...you should start the morph thread due to conditions/contaminants. It might be interesting as well as provide examples of various issues.


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Re: Oyster log in sgfc [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23607254 - 09/03/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, but I'm not sure why they morphed. As far as I could tell, conditions were good. Temp, 70-75, tons of fresh air and light, but... As I was pasteurizing some more straw last night, it hit me.... I'm pretty sure that they suffered due to a poor pasteurization. I remembered last night that I didn't do the 2 hour dish soap soak first, And I'm thinking I used too little lime. I Did another huge batch of straw last night to spawn 4 1/2 qts of King trumpet today. Going to do it in my last filter patch bag. Does anybody have a recommendation for who has the best deals on quality Polytubing?


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