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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy]
    #23506521 - 08/03/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't have an objection with a muzzle. It's just not for me because it is not necessary. I socialized my dog very well from a young age. People come up to her and put their hands over her in the neighborhood and the dog park and she loves it.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy]
    #23506536 - 08/03/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The UK has a "dangerous dogs" law and outlaws the ownership of pit bulls if that helps.




No. It doesn't. I'm not even sure that the breed can be varified that easily as most of these "pit bulls" are crosses.
Neither do I care too much what the breed is. A bite, any bite, from any dog, is a bite I would rather dog owners didn't take the chance of my recieving. Thanks all the same. 

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Why do they need a muzzle if theyre already on a leash and under control? Dogs cant freely run at you unless they arent on a leash which they should have on in any public setting




Should be on a lead, maybe. My guess would be at least half the dog walkers on my estate don't keep thir dogs on the lead, they let them free so that they can throw sticks/balls etc. for the dog to fetch.


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To a degree. Yes. I see all dogs as potentially dangerous due to their unpredictability.
I don't know if a dog running towards me wants to play or is going to jump up and take a chunk out of me, and no, before the inevitable idiot that posts to tell me, 'you can tell a dogs intention by it's demeanour.' No. I am not a fucking dog psychiatrist.

What are your objections to using muzzels?




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Dogs pant to release heat. If their mouth is mussled how will they pant properly?




There are muzzel designs that allow a dog to pant.

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Carry a knife if your scarred of animal attacks.  Sue the owner.




You're kidding right? I'm supposed to carry a knife to protect me from some idiots dog, and/or, sue the owner?
Fat lot of good that'll do me if my leg so badly mauled that I walk with a limp for the rest of my days.

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Don't walk like a victim and no single dog will ever attack you.




You think i'm going to take the word of some random fucker on the internet? That I should trust you? Bollocks.

It seems you people don't want to muzzel your dogs because you want to be able to play fetch with your barky, bitey, waggy tailed little shite machines, and fuck anyone who isn't quick enough to get out of the way of their teeth. Arseholes!


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23506551 - 08/03/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Calm down killer.


My dog has never and will never bite anyone.


Why are you so scared of dogs anyways?

I carry large a razor sharp knife with me anytime I have pants on. Why wouldn't you. It comes in handy more than once a day for me usually.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy] * 1
    #23506593 - 08/03/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Pitbulls... Such vicious creatures :lol: 

Yep that's a duck.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #23506955 - 08/03/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm3: what does that prove?


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy] * 1
    #23506976 - 08/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You realize every pitbull owner says that? I personally had a friend with a very sweet pitbull who grew up around his kids. One day it snapped and decided to maul his toddler. Her face is straight mutilated to this day. Everyone thought it was a great dog, in a loving home.

Over the years and seeing the statistics/mannerisms of this breed ive come to the conclusion your everyday family should not own them.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: pineninja]
    #23506981 - 08/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well they're obviously not ALL vicious. How many dogs in general run around the yard with a duck without eating it?


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #23507002 - 08/03/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Every dog I've seen that lives  with ducks or chickens mine included.:wonka:


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: pineninja]
    #23507014 - 08/03/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mmmmm hmmmm... I'm sure. Every dog I've ever seen around chickens tries to kill them.... And I live where there are lots of chickens. Chickens and corn...


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #23507056 - 08/03/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You ask a question and was never going to believe the answer unless it was what you wanted to hear. So with that in mind you can go sit on it.:breakout:
The last thing I'll do in this thread is post a pic of my dog and my chickens just to show you how much of a dick you seem to me right now.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: danielx]
    #23507062 - 08/03/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You realize every pitbull owner says that? I personally had a friend with a very sweet pitbull who grew up around his kids. One day it snapped and decided to maul his toddler. Her face is straight mutilated to this day. Everyone thought it was a great dog, in a loving home.

Over the years and seeing the statistics/mannerisms of this breed ive come to the conclusion your everyday family should not own them.



I own a lab
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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: pineninja]
    #23507076 - 08/03/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: you think I care if you think I'm a dick? My point was the majority of dogs will eat a chicken, it doesn't matter the breed. I could sit here all day and talk about how vicious small dogs are but at the end of the day any animal can turn on you so why pick on a specific breed? The most vicious animal I've ever seen was a lab, a breed of dog known for being a family dog.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy]
    #23507094 - 08/03/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry dude... It just happened to be a lab. My aunts lab to be exact, I really think the equally mean chihuahua drove it insane.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #23507118 - 08/03/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's all good lol


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: impatientguy]
    #23507487 - 08/03/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ive been bitten by 3 dogs in my life, a big poodle who was playing, a jackass german shepherd who wasnt trained, and a little small shit mutt whos just a shit dog. I dont like shit dogs. Not saying mutts are shit dogs, but this mutt is a shit dog. I know a person who had a chunk of his leg ripped off from a pitbull its one nasty scar.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: danielx]
    #23507655 - 08/03/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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do you honestly believe if golden retrievers were more popular then pitbulls they would be attacking more people then pitbulls?

Pitbulls are dangerous mongrels, its ludicrous to believe that all breeds are born with the same temperament.





yes. it's a fact.


http://www.orilliapacket.com/2014/08/27/dog-attack-victim-recovering-but-heartbroken


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: pineninja]
    #23507676 - 08/03/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I own border collies and have never been threatened by a dog.
"A 2009 report issued by DogsBite.org shows that 19 dog breeds contributed to 88 deaths in the 3-year period of 2006 to 2008. Pit bulls accounted for 59% followed by rottweilers with 14%. Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52).
U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org
www.dogsbite.org › dog-bite-statistics





if pit bulls were not a popular breed we wouldnt even be having this discussion,
because it is a popular breed statistically the bites will be more common

now let's apply numbers to humans.

13% of the population is responsible for 56% of the homicides. is it nature or nurture?



Position Breed Registrations
1 Labrador Retriever 45,700
2 English Cocker Spaniel 20,459
3 English Springer Spaniel 15,133
4 German Shepherd 12,857
5 Staffordshire Bull Terrier 12,729
6 Cavalier King Charles Spaniel 11,411
7 Golden Retriever 9,373
8 West Highland White Terrier 9,300
9 Boxer 9,066
10 Border Terrier 8,916

You Just Keep digging for reasons to be wrong.





so only breed registered dogs are allowed in the country?

which registry is that BTW, is it the AKC, the CKC the ADBA?


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23507764 - 08/03/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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do you honestly believe if golden retrievers were more popular then pitbulls they would be attacking more people then pitbulls?

Pitbulls are dangerous mongrels, its ludicrous to believe that all breeds are born with the same temperament.





yes. it's a fact.


http://www.orilliapacket.com/2014/08/27/dog-attack-victim-recovering-but-heartbroken




Dog attack statistics could have a lot of holes in the data, It immediately excludes small dog attacks that likely are never reported.  The most consistently reported type of dog attack would no doubt be attacks that end in human death.  And based on the statistics reported at http://www.dogsbite.org; pits would have to out number golden retrievers nearly 60 to 1 in america.  Maybe they do :shrug:

If you look at the statistics for dog attacks resulting in bodily harm for pit bulls and german shepherds: Pits have the shepherd 2:1 on total percent of dog population, yet have a ratio of nearly 30:1 for attacks causing bodily harm, and about 20:1 for deaths.  You could suggest that the population statistics are off by nearly 15 times but at some point you have to consider what glaring facts you are ignoring to maintain your perception. 



Statistically debatable maybe, but far from a "fact"...


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: Mojo]
    #23507781 - 08/03/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I want to see data on provoked vs unprovoked attacks. Random maulings is a completely different scenario then a dog protecting its owner/home. Ofcourse a dog thats not well trained and attacks at random when someone comes near its owner would be counted as a random mauling.


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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: Alexthegreat]
    #23507906 - 08/03/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't care if a dog is a pitbull or a whatever other breed.


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