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noob47 said: ...100lb Colby blue nose and take him and my kids to the park I've had people come up and ask me to leave ... which I just laugh while my daughter is hanging on him yet I've seen "family dogs" nip and try to bite kids but in "societies " eyes it was just a mistake
Your dog is trained to protect your daughter and other parents in the park would know this, doesn't mean they'd want their children copying such playfulness as your daughter with dogs, including yours. Fact is, a dogs temperament can turn on a sixpence and if a child happens to be present at the time they become little more than prey. I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned the pleasure that all dog lovers combined, get from their pets, is not worth one single child being savaged.
I will repeat. At the very least, all dogs should be muzzled when out in a public area. Just my opinion. I know full well the cowardly cunts that put themselves up for election would never stand on such a platform, so you're quite safe to continue walking your dog, without a muzzle and endangering the public, until the day it 'sees a sixpence, and turns on it' Then you lose your dog.
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There is a very large amount of pit bulls in the population because of irresponsible breeding. It has to do with part of the reason so many pit bull attacks are reported. Go to a humane society or pound, I guarantee you will see more pits than any other dog. A lot of owners of pit bulls are people in certain income levels. These people who own these dogs are more than likely less educated, have easy access to pit bulls, don't know or care how to train a dog, and are very easily influenced by society. With easy access to the breed and the owners wanting to uphold a certain ghetto or thug reputation, it is inevitable the dogs will get a bad rep condisdeit who is holding the leash. I'm not sayin all pit bull owners are uneducated and ignorant but let's face it, what is the first thing that pops into your mind when you think about the owners of pit bulls? Thanks to dickless Michael Vick, the majority of the people are going to imagine the most ignorant. These dogs are straight stereotyped and discriminated against. #pitlivesmatter hahah jk.
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So from what I've read, you believe walking dogs in public is dangerous?
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Ive met so many pitbulls nd they are always th nicest dogs
i dont think Ive ever met a mean and aggresive pitbull before tbh
sure some are mean but they have bad owners and for some reasn people just like to focus on the negative even tho theres so much positive in pitbulls
i met a female pitbull last weekend and it was such a nice dog
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Re: Pit Bulls [Re: LSDeez]
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Alexthegreat said: So from what I've read, you believe walking dogs in public is dangerous?
To a degree. Yes. I see all dogs as potentially dangerous due to their unpredictability. I don't know if a dog running towards me wants to play or is going to jump up and take a chunk out of me, and no, before the inevitable idiot that posts to tell me, 'you can tell a dogs intention by it's demeanour.' No. I am not a fucking dog psychiatrist.
What are your objections to using muzzels?
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Why do they need a muzzle if theyre already on a leash and under control? Dogs cant freely run at you unless they arent on a leash which they should have on in any public setting
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pineninja said: if you have seen one attack to kill you won't forget it.
I feel like that would be true about a lot of bigger/ burlier dogs honestly, wolf dogs are a great example.
They can be ruthless but are also some of the most intelligent and caring animals I have met.
every large dog breed has held the reputation of being a vicious killer, when I was a kid we had dobermans, the 60s and 70s were filled with nonsense about them, one of the more popular rumors was that their brains would swell causing them to go crazy and attack their owners. in my early teens I was hearing stories about how the chow chow were vicious and would turn on their owners and I did in fact see one of these dogs try to attack it's owner, I also saw the dog being mistreated every day. I've also seen these claims made about rottweilers and of course now it's pitbulls and their "locking jaws". apparently back in the 50s the german shepherd held the reputation of being nothing bu a vicious attack dog
so why exactly do these animals have these bad reputations? because there's always some chicken shit pecker heads are afraid of larger breeds and as a breed becomes popular people that have no business owning or breeding hamsters ends up with these dogs, they inevitably end up untrained and mistreated and someone gets bit and after that the retarded alarmists that are terrified of dogs make up the silly claims of shit like locking jaws or swelling brains and other gullible, ignorant people believe it and spread it in order to justify their own fears of dogs
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SirShroomsAlott said: Why do they need a muzzle if theyre already on a leash and under control? Dogs cant freely run at you unless they arent on a leash which they should have on in any public setting
because he's afraid of dogs
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Alexthegreat said: So from what I've read, you believe walking dogs in public is dangerous?
To a degree. Yes. I see all dogs as potentially dangerous due to their unpredictability. I don't know if a dog running towards me wants to play or is going to jump up and take a chunk out of me, and no, before the inevitable idiot that posts to tell me, 'you can tell a dogs intention by it's demeanour.' No. I am not a fucking dog psychiatrist.
What are your objections to using muzzels?
Dogs pant to release heat. If their mouth is mussled how will they pant properly?
Carry a knife if your scarred of animal attacks. Sue the owner.
Don't walk like a victim and no single dog will ever attack you.
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pineninja said: if you have seen one attack to kill you won't forget it.
I feel like that would be true about a lot of bigger/ burlier dogs honestly, wolf dogs are a great example.
They can be ruthless but are also some of the most intelligent and caring animals I have met.
every large dog breed has held the reputation of being a vicious killer, when I was a kid we had dobermans, the 60s and 70s were filled with nonsense about them, one of the more popular rumors was that their brains would swell causing them to go crazy and attack their owners. in my early teens I was hearing stories about how the chow chow were vicious and would turn on their owners and I did in fact see one of these dogs try to attack it's owner, I also saw the dog being mistreated every day. I've also seen these claims made about rottweilers and of course now it's pitbulls and their "locking jaws". apparently back in the 50s the german shepherd held the reputation of being nothing bu a vicious attack dog
so why exactly do these animals have these bad reputations? because there's always some chicken shit pecker heads are afraid of larger breeds and as a breed becomes popular people that have no business owning or breeding hamsters ends up with these dogs, they inevitably end up untrained and mistreated and someone gets bit and after that the retarded alarmists that are terrified of dogs make up the silly claims of shit like locking jaws or swelling brains and other gullible, ignorant people believe it and spread it in order to justify their own fears of dogs
http://www.yourspca.org/pages/bred-to-love/dispelling-common-myths-about-pit-bull-terriers
I own border collies and have never been threatened by a dog. "A 2009 report issued by DogsBite.org shows that 19 dog breeds contributed to 88 deaths in the 3-year period of 2006 to 2008. Pit bulls accounted for 59% followed by rottweilers with 14%. Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org www.dogsbite.org › dog-bite-statistics
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Alexthegreat said: So from what I've read, you believe walking dogs in public is dangerous?
To a degree. Yes. I see all dogs as potentially dangerous due to their unpredictability. I don't know if a dog running towards me wants to play or is going to jump up and take a chunk out of me, and no, before the inevitable idiot that posts to tell me, 'you can tell a dogs intention by it's demeanour.' No. I am not a fucking dog psychiatrist.
What are your objections to using muzzels?
Dogs pant to release heat. If their mouth is mussled how will they pant properly?
Carry a knife if your scarred of animal attacks. Sue the owner.
Don't walk like a victim and no single dog will ever attack you.
yah alot of it is body language. dogs can read it really well and will react accordingky
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pineninja said: I own border collies and have never been threatened by a dog. "A 2009 report issued by DogsBite.org shows that 19 dog breeds contributed to 88 deaths in the 3-year period of 2006 to 2008. Pit bulls accounted for 59% followed by rottweilers with 14%. Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org www.dogsbite.org › dog-bite-statistics
if pit bulls were not a popular breed we wouldnt even be having this discussion, because it is a popular breed statistically the bites will be more common
now let's apply numbers to humans.
13% of the population is responsible for 56% of the homicides. is it nature or nurture?
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The UK has a "dangerous dogs" law and outlaws the ownership of pit bulls if that helps.
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do you honestly believe if golden retrievers were more popular then pitbulls they would be attacking more people then pitbulls?
Pitbulls are dangerous mongrels, its ludicrous to believe that all breeds are born with the same temperament.
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No, some pit bulls can be dangerous, just like any other dogs...
If golden retrievers had the same history as pitbulls and we're as popular they could definitely have the same notoriety.
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but they dont. Thats the point. In my opinion, if you swapped the household numbers for pits and golden retrievers, and there was as many retrievers as there are pits, you would still see pitbulls in the majority of the attacks.
I dont think the pitbull stats are purely just based on how many there are.
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danielx said: I dont think the pitbull stats are purely just based on how many there are.
Your right it probably has a lot to do with how often they are abused and or raised by neglectful owners...
If golden retrievers had that same history who can see they wouldn't be in opposite places
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So you think raised in the same exact enviorment, a pitbull and a golden retriever are going to have the same exact temperament and mannerisms? Thats ludicrous.
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pineninja said: I own border collies and have never been threatened by a dog. "A 2009 report issued by DogsBite.org shows that 19 dog breeds contributed to 88 deaths in the 3-year period of 2006 to 2008. Pit bulls accounted for 59% followed by rottweilers with 14%. Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org www.dogsbite.org › dog-bite-statistics
if pit bulls were not a popular breed we wouldnt even be having this discussion, because it is a popular breed statistically the bites will be more common
now let's apply numbers to humans.
13% of the population is responsible for 56% of the homicides. is it nature or nurture?
Position Breed Registrations 1 Labrador Retriever 45,700 2 English Cocker Spaniel 20,459 3 English Springer Spaniel 15,133 4 German Shepherd 12,857 5 Staffordshire Bull Terrier 12,729 6 Cavalier King Charles Spaniel 11,411 7 Golden Retriever 9,373 8 West Highland White Terrier 9,300 9 Boxer 9,066 10 Border Terrier 8,916
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danielx said: So you think raised in the same exact enviorment, a pitbull and a golden retriever are going to have the same exact temperament and mannerisms? Thats ludicrous.
Where did I say that? I think that if a golden retriever was raised in an abusive house and or had came from a line of dogs used in bloodsports then it could be pretty much just as aggressive as a pit bull... All the pitbulls I have known came from loving houses and were wonderful dogs, thinking any specific breed of dog will have the exact same temperament and mannerisms is what is ludicrous
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