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Alexthegreat



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I believe it is nurture. I think the past is the past personally. Whatever the origins of the breed or what it was bred for is the past is not relevant today. My dad is terrified of pit bulls because he "had a friend" or whatever and got caught up in the media hype. It saddens me. I challenge the nature side of the argument people to go to a dog park and observe, maybe talk to other dog owners and get their opinions. I believe people have the right to feel the way they do but I just think there is a lot of ignorance being spred by the sheep people in this world.
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Imo theyre the same aggresive wise with just about any other dog their size(except chows theyre crazy). Its their strength that makes them scary to novice dog owners.
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Alexthegreat



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I agree with you bro.
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what that says is that they were bred for certain traits and those traits allowed people to exploit them for blood sports such as bull baiting
Ya that's what I said.
They were bred that way so they could be used for fighting.
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Prisoner#1 said:
what that says is that they were bred for certain traits and those traits allowed people to exploit them for blood sports such as bull baiting
Ya that's what I said.
They were bred that way so they could be used for fighting.
no, that's not what you said. you said they were bred for fighting
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pineninja
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Bad owner with bad poodle....annoying. Bad owner with bad pit....dangerous. This is why they have the rep if they snap it's on.
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I've been a rehab/rescue volunteer for Pit Bulls abandoned in N. Mexico after being fighting dogs. The nature vs. nurture argument is besides the point. Sure, a chihuauha is actually more "nippy" "tempermental" and aggresive on a bad day but it doesn't have jaws the width of a medium sized crocodile, teeth like daggers and the strength/endurance/durability (etc.) of a...pit bull. It's the same logic which applies to full auto weapons. I've had Pit's live with me that were "big babies" but even if they bit you playfully in a rough-housing way you would have been getting stitches and if they latched onto your arm or leg you would have had to shoot them through the skull then saw through the backs of their heads to remove the lower jaw from their skulls to free your appendage. Personally, I wouldn't own one I had kids.
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pineninja said: Bad owner with bad poodle....annoying. Bad owner with bad pit....dangerous. This is why they have the rep if they snap it's on.
you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about do you
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pineninja
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I didn't realise that looking up google photo's makes you an expert. The difference between that poodle and a pit is a locking jaw .
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pineninja said: I didn't realise that looking up google photo's makes you an expert. The difference between that poodle and a pit is a locking jaw .
hahaha... locking jaw, that's one way to show how ignorant you are
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pineninja
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Oh ok a pitbull bite is the same as a poodles.
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pineninja said: Oh ok a pitbull bite is the same as a poodles.
I have known smaller pitbulls and there are bigger more vicous poodles some could be around even honestly but what do I know
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pineninja
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Whether it be through mechanism or intent when attacking they go straight for the throat lock on and don't let go. On of the most intelligent personality filled dogs I've seen was a pit, wouldn't harm a fly. I have also seen a pit injure a collie so bad it had to be euthanized. My dog has also been set upon by a pit that broke free amd made a B line straight at her from 100 yards got there just before I did, lucky it was muzzled because it went straight for the kill. Neither the dog or the owner will be back. I've always had dogs, I am constantly at leash free areas where every breed possible is there, most of the time it's fine a few incidents as you would expect with all different breeds. The pits are another level of ferocity and strength if you have seen one attack to kill you won't forget it.
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pineninja said: if you have seen one attack to kill you won't forget it.
I feel like that would be true about a lot of bigger/ burlier dogs honestly, wolf dogs are a great example.
They can be ruthless but are also some of the most intelligent and caring animals I have met.
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pineninja
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I agree it would be memorable for sure and any breed is capable of attacking to maime or kill. ime I've never seen another breed attack to kill like that but ime I have seen pits do it 3 times now.
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German Shepard's are more ferocious plus pit bulls were bred for hunting not fighting ??? Actually American bulldogs are used more for fighting and staffordshire bull terriers are used because they are short dogs and can get the throat easier I've always had pits and never once have they attacked without a reason ... they are territorial just like any dog and if they have starved they will attack other dogs if they go by their food and the dogs you see attack people more then likely something reminded them of their owner who may have abused them ... just like people .... basically you're afraid of a pit because you seen a few be aggressive I bet if you got drunk and did some stupid shit you blame it on the alcohol too huh?
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TheDopestd0pe
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pineninja said: I agree it would be memorable for sure and any breed is capable of attacking to maime or kill. ime I've never seen another breed attack to kill like that but ime I have seen pits do it 3 times now.
Sucks youve had so much bad experiences with pits but I believe they have a higher ratio of owners using them in neglectful ways leading to a higher rate of attacks when compared to other breeds. Also sounds like the pits youve had run-ins with were being used and werent pets. If you ever see a rott or german shep get in a fight they do the go for the neck thing too its not just them.
To the guy talking about shooting a pit in the head then cutting off the jaw, you are a special kind of stupid.
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pineninja
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I agree with both of you except for not going for the throat. I've seen it and that's what they did. I also stated above that one of the best dogs I've seen was a pit my arguement is not that they can't be good it's that their bad is worse than others.
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deucedbi9
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pineninja said: I agree it would be memorable for sure and any breed is capable of attacking to maime or kill. ime I've never seen another breed attack to kill like that but ime I have seen pits do it 3 times now.
The only breed of dog I've seen "attack to kill" was what I believe to be a pit, or, a least, pit bull type of dog. It ran straight across a road and clamped it's jaw around the throat of an Alsation twice it's size.
The only thing that saved the Alsation was the thick leather collar it was wearing, and that I was alerted by the shout of the neighbour that was walking his dog, on it's lead, and was able to grab the attacking dog and hold onto it by it's collar untill the moronic cunt that owned the fucking thing, a stereotypical 'black ghetto wannabe gangsta' piece of shit cunt, sauntered up, wearing jeans at something approximating half mast, to retrieve his dog and leave as if nothing had happened.
But then: I'd have all dogs, and seeing as an outright ban on all dogs in residential areas is unlikely, due to political cowardice, muzzled (must be the liberal in me) when in any public space with confiscation and Euthenising of any and all dogs caught in breech of such law.
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Well there you go a black ghetto piece of shit gangster wannabe owned it I bet he let it off the leash for it I would of kicked the owners ass a black dude did that shit to a friend of mines dog opened his front door and let him out with little being said that black dude ended up with a severed leg and his dog was put out before he got across the street ... I'm not saying they don't attack but people always putting down pits is ridiculous I have a 100lb Colby blue nose and take him and my kids to the park I've had people come up and ask me to leave ... which I just laugh while my daughter is hanging on him yet I've seen "family dogs" nip and try to bite kids but in "societies " eyes it was just a mistake
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