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shroomvirgin
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Weird white stuff growing before inoculation
#23501671 - 08/02/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Basically I made 12 PFtek jars. My pressure cooker can only do 3 at once. My first 3 I sterilized, inoculated, so far so good, seeing what I'm supposed to see.
I had some other things to attend to and I left the rest of the jars a few days. Come back to them, there's some growth, not sure what it is. But I read that's fine and to go ahead and sterilize them anyway. So I do. I leave these next 3 jars in the pressure cooker a few days after the initial cooking because I went to stay somewhere for a couple days. Come back, open it up and there's an icky smell. I look in the jars and there's still just weird stuff in them, I don't know if it's dead or what. Anyway I'm like okay lemme go to grab 3 other jars and sterilize. I look in the other pftek jars I haven't sterilized yet and there's little white puffballs (different from the spores that are growing in my first 3 jars). I don't even know wtf this is.
At this point should I just throw it all out and clean the jars and redo them?
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LeopardMan
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: shroomvirgin]
#23501691 - 08/02/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say start over and never begin a new project if you dont have enough time
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Mycologist217
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: shroomvirgin]
#23501692 - 08/02/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pictures help for best advice....
Unsterilized PF tek jars will commonly start molding or get bacterial contamination in 24 hours or so....I recommend starting over...make jars at the point of sterilization.
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: LeopardMan]
#23501696 - 08/02/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What kind of pressure cooker only has room for 3 half pint jars? Why not just steam them all at once in a big pot since they're cakes?
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shroomvirgin
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: Inocuole]
#23501725 - 08/02/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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@LeopardMan Yeah you're right. I'm happy with just the 3 jars I have. I don't need a lot my first time, so hopefully everything works out well with them.
@Mycologist217 Here's a picture of the jars that sat for about a week and weren't sterilized. http://i.imgur.com/s0Q57uk.jpg
@Inocuole A $20 one! I actually realized there's a rack that came with it so I can do 6.
Thanks for the quick replies. When I'm cleaning the jars, after using hot water/dish soap, should I scrub them with alcohol and will that be good?
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oontribe


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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: shroomvirgin]
#23501753 - 08/02/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best way is to sterilise em in the pc for 30 mins while the contamed cake still inside to kill the bacteria mold or whatever and to make sure that they dont spread their spores, wait for them to cool in the pc then toss the cakes and then clean the jars with soap and water.
You dont have to scrub em with alcohol since you are going to pc them again with the new cakes.
Good luck.
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: oontribe]
#23501820 - 08/02/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
oontribe said: Best way is to sterilise em in the pc for 30 mins while the contamed cake still inside to kill the bacteria mold or whatever and to make sure that they dont spread their spores, wait for them to cool in the pc then toss the cakes and then clean the jars with soap and water.
You dont have to scrub em with alcohol since you are going to pc them again with the new cakes.
Good luck.
There shouldn't be any spores at this point. I'd just toss 'em and take the garbage out.
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Re: Weird white stuff growing before inoculation [Re: Psilicon]
#23501891 - 08/02/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had a jar before that had what looked like white normal mycelium but it was yeast and then it turned yellow when it sprouted it spores....could be wrong! But better safe than sorry
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