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mupetmower
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did no one else think it was funny, imagining OP getting all in his hazmat gear, dousing himself in ISO and lysol, and then proceeding to go into the closet to do open air inoc's, etc? haha was pretty hilarious to me. all that preparation, and then you open air it.
make the SAB, cheap and yes, very effective.
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23504798 - 08/03/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: did no one else think it was funny, imagining OP getting all in his hazmat gear, dousing himself in ISO and lysol, and then proceeding to go into the closet to do open air inoc's, etc? haha was pretty hilarious to me. all that preparation, and then you open air it.
make the SAB, cheap and yes, very effective.
I thought it'd be alright considering it's basically a Lysol bath inside the closet. Figured anything in the air would be dead.
Kind of silly to think I guess.
I also found it tough to believe a box with two holes was gonna stop any mold vs what I was already doing. Live and learn.
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mupetmower
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yup 
before i got into mycology, and reading lots on here, i used to think lysol and the like was good enough, as well. But then you learn that even just a few microscopic bacteria or mold spores can all but ruin your work.
the beauty of the SAB(along with good sterile technique) is that it make the air in the box still. it doesnt kill any off the bad stuff, but just makes it to where it cant get in your stuff and fuck it up!
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23504853 - 08/03/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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lysol in a surface disinfectant, not an "air sterilizer"  lysol, oust, etc has no place in sterile tech.
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spacechildo said: lysol in a surface disinfectant, not an "air sterilizer"  lysol, oust, etc has no place in sterile tech.
Damn. Logical science. I honestly had no clue until you said that, but you are in fact correct.
I've been wasting so much time and effort for nothing
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mupetmower
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or when you see people spraying the air with lysol, and then also like ISO and bleach water mixes.. science!
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23504881 - 08/03/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you're ballsy enough to mix bleach with anything you either got your science down or you really dunno what you're doing!
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mupetmower
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i like to mix bleach and ammonia and spray my entire house with it, including my body, before all SAB work.

EDIT - just realized bleach and iso makes chloroform. i knew it wasnt a good idea, but i didnt know it made that.. i swear ive seen someone say this is what they did, though, to clean their SAB or something before using it. might be wrong, though.
man.. bleach is crazy.
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Edited by mupetmower (08/03/16 09:33 AM)
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23504899 - 08/03/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's a good way of killing unwanted organisms, yeah
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spacechildo said: that's a good way of killing unwanted organisms, yeah 
"Unwanted"
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23505232 - 08/03/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bleach loves to react with other substances, cleaning products in particular. DO NOT MIX! mustard gas,chlorine gas,chloroform all great inhalants while doing SAB work
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If you use RTV silcone to make a self healing injection port it will fall off quite easily if you didn't sand down/scratch up the lid before hand. The surface of the lid needs to be roughed up to cause it to adhere properly.
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So I'm going to get supplies this evening. Very excited. Nervous, but the teks that you linked PB are VERY straight forward. Thanks again. I've seen you guys say pennigtons is a good brand to get. Is that still the general consensus? Walmart reviews say good mix of seed and corn... I don't want corn. Are there any brands without corn and sunflower seeds?
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mupetmower
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i bought a bag of Pennington at Walmart that doesnt have corn. it does have sunflower seeds. some people pick those out, but ive seen people leave them, as well.
This bag didnt have all that many Sunflower seeds in them, either, though:

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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23506392 - 08/03/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm so stoned I thought I was supposed to be reading something on the bag, re-read it like 5 times before I minimized the picture and looked back at your post to realize it was about the sunflower seeds.
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mupetmower
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23506398 - 08/03/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: mupetmower]
#23506435 - 08/03/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder what "incidental damage from this product" entails..
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23507539 - 08/03/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My local Walmart is quite small and doesn't have what all others have... I got a 3lb bag of wild harvest brand universal blend for small birds. Ingredients for the most part are, in order, white Millet, red Millet, oat groats, rapeseed (yes, rapeseed) canary grass seed, flaxseed, Fench millet, Niger, orange oil, ground corn, wheat middlings, feeding oatmeal, and corn gluten meal.
That's all the "foods"
Also, doesn't look like 3lbs is gonna do shit.
Couldn't find plastic jars, so bought a pack of ball glass quart jars...
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