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Inocuole
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Yes I know that's the thread that got me into using EZ felt back when I thought it was a good idea like 4 1/2 years ago.
I get it, you want to go through the same process, everybody's gotta do their thing to learn. Go on and do it. But have fun having that constant worry in the back of your mind about "hmm, maybe it's the filters?" when jars start coming up bad.
Not even that long ago, nobody around here could even spot a bacterial jar of grain. The testimonies of yesteryear are unfortunately not worth shit anymore where that's concerned.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22772593#22772593
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PsilocyBen17
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23501766 - 08/02/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got a whole bunch of ez felt in a trade. I'd rather use that than cut up SFDs. Gr0wer runs a small commercial operation over in GGMM and thats all he uses. Theres a video outlining his Tek.
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Moabfighter
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23501773 - 08/02/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to be combative in any way man. I'm not opposed to criticism and learning. I personally prefer not to order things, especially not mycology things. Maybe it's just paranoia on my part.
So you have used Ez felt before, and wasn't a fan? Hm.
Also, I see you post a lot, I've seen that you know what the fuck you're doing. I trust your word, I'm just wondering if there's an alternative to ordering the discs.
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Mycologist217
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23501774 - 08/02/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use the tyvek suits cut up over the mouth of the jar and poly fill through a 1/4" hole that serves as both gas exchange and injection port. The polyfill fills the hole the needle leaves in the tyvek (which is likely overkill)
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Moabfighter
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PsilocyBen17 said: I got a whole bunch of ez felt in a trade. I'd rather use that than cut up SFDs. Gr0wer runs a small commercial operation over in GGMM and thats all he uses. Theres a video outlining his Tek.
Could you find that link man?
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Moabfighter
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23501801 - 08/02/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Yes I know that's the thread that got me into using EZ felt back when I thought it was a good idea like 4 1/2 years ago.
I get it, you want to go through the same process, everybody's gotta do their thing to learn. Go on and do it. But have fun having that constant worry in the back of your mind about "hmm, maybe it's the filters?" when jars start coming up bad.
Not even that long ago, nobody around here could even spot a bacterial jar of grain. The testimonies of yesteryear are unfortunately not worth shit anymore where that's concerned.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22772593#22772593
Would you be opposed to mailing me some discs in a plain evelope? I can send you a money order for whatever you feel like the cost should be.
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PsilocyBen17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOX1lXWbQFU
Gr0wer knows what he's doing and does fantastic videos and write ups to share with others. I thoroughly believe he will be a TC one day soon...check him out in the GGMM forum.
good point about the green sharpies too
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Moabfighter
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PsilocyBen17 said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOX1lXWbQFU
Gr0wer knows what he's doing and does fantastic videos and write ups to share with others. I thoroughly believe he will be a TC one day soon...check him out in the GGMM forum.
good point about the green sharpies too 
Awesome video thanks. I have a torch, sockets, etc. this is doable for me.
Question, do I inject through the filter? Or simply crack the lid in a SAB and drop abit of spore solution in the jar?
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Those lids are meant to be removed and inoculated via g2g or agar drop.
For spore solution you would lift the lid and squirt in the jar.
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PsilocyBen17
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like innocuole said somewhere...
dont bother with SHIPs....just crack the lid and drop in a clean wedge...
if you so have to use spores only use a drop or two. They are filthy things, spores.
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Moabfighter
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Mycologist217 said: Those lids are meant to be removed and inoculated via g2g or agar drop.
For spore solution you would lift the lid and squirt in the jar.
How risky is this? I know using MS is already quite risky, but are SAB very effective? I've never used one. I always put a hazmat suit on, and respirator, Drench myself with Lysol and alcohol, shut myself in a closet, and inoculate that way.
I think for grains I will build a still air box.
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PsilocyBen17
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Stop doing that. Build a SAB.
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First time ever I used MS, but now I will never use MS on grains and only do agar and g2g. Much better to do MS->agar->grains imo.
I just punch a nail a couple times in the lid and cut up tyvek from a tyvek suit I got from Home Depot then when ready I crack the lid and drop in the wedge or do the g2g.
Edited by Brio (08/02/16 01:12 PM)
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Moabfighter said:I always put a hazmat suit on, and respirator, Drench myself with Lysol and alcohol, shut myself in a closet
I think I know who you are?! Is your name Walter White?
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Inocuole
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Moabfighter said:
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Inocuole said: Yes I know that's the thread that got me into using EZ felt back when I thought it was a good idea like 4 1/2 years ago.
I get it, you want to go through the same process, everybody's gotta do their thing to learn. Go on and do it. But have fun having that constant worry in the back of your mind about "hmm, maybe it's the filters?" when jars start coming up bad.
Not even that long ago, nobody around here could even spot a bacterial jar of grain. The testimonies of yesteryear are unfortunately not worth shit anymore where that's concerned.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22772593#22772593
Would you be opposed to mailing me some discs in a plain evelope? I can send you a money order for whatever you feel like the cost should be.
Pretty opposed, yeah. That's exactly what the site does when you order discs from them. I'm not really interested in exchanging names/addresses just so you can get some discs. It's not like they're going to send you a big box that says "THIS GUY IS GROWING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES" when you order filter discs that could be used for any type of mushroom cultivation. Hell, my janky ass packaging would probably be sketchier to receive in the mail.
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Moabfighter said:
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Mycologist217 said: Those lids are meant to be removed and inoculated via g2g or agar drop.
For spore solution you would lift the lid and squirt in the jar.
How risky is this? I know using MS is already quite risky, but are SAB very effective? I've never used one. I always put a hazmat suit on, and respirator, Drench myself with Lysol and alcohol, shut myself in a closet, and inoculate that way.
I think for grains I will build a still air box.
Yeah all that stuff is bad for you, and wasteful, stop using harsh chemicals, build a SAB and trust in it.
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Moabfighter
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23501990 - 08/02/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Moabfighter said:
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Inocuole said: Yes I know that's the thread that got me into using EZ felt back when I thought it was a good idea like 4 1/2 years ago.
I get it, you want to go through the same process, everybody's gotta do their thing to learn. Go on and do it. But have fun having that constant worry in the back of your mind about "hmm, maybe it's the filters?" when jars start coming up bad.
Not even that long ago, nobody around here could even spot a bacterial jar of grain. The testimonies of yesteryear are unfortunately not worth shit anymore where that's concerned.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22772593#22772593
Would you be opposed to mailing me some discs in a plain evelope? I can send you a money order for whatever you feel like the cost should be.
Pretty opposed, yeah. That's exactly what the site does when you order discs from them. I'm not really interested in exchanging names/addresses just so you can get some discs. It's not like they're going to send you a big box that says "THIS GUY IS GROWING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES" when you order filter discs that could be used for any type of mushroom cultivation. Hell, my janky ass packaging would probably be sketchier to receive in the mail.
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Moabfighter said:
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Mycologist217 said: Those lids are meant to be removed and inoculated via g2g or agar drop.
For spore solution you would lift the lid and squirt in the jar.
How risky is this? I know using MS is already quite risky, but are SAB very effective? I've never used one. I always put a hazmat suit on, and respirator, Drench myself with Lysol and alcohol, shut myself in a closet, and inoculate that way.
I think for grains I will build a still air box.
Yeah all that stuff is bad for you, and wasteful, stop using harsh chemicals, build a SAB and trust in it.
Sorry for asking.
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Inocuole
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Fine, sorry for answering.
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Moabfighter said: This guy appears to know what he's doing.... 13 pages on it.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14488446
FTW..... Polyfill+tyvek FTL
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Inocuole
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Inocuole said: They still don't have a proper filter rating. I have a ton left over from when I used them on my second grow, but I stopped using them by my 4th grow. A lot of them I can pick up and see straight through them.
Eventually you'll be like "I'm having issues and I don't understand why, maybe it's this craft felt that isn't made for filtering out mold spores whatsoever." Ruling things out is nice.
I'm just saying.. if you're going to do this, and you're going to use a filter material for your jars, it goes a long way to make sure it has an actual filter rating. Otherwise why not just leave the lids unmodded? Plastic one piece unmodded lids work fine. If you're gonna half ass that far, why not half ass all the way?
Not that other shit doesn't work but.. shit. If you're gonna put in the effort.
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Moabfighter
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Re: How to prep grain jars? [Re: Inocuole]
#23502600 - 08/02/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn dude, I'll order some filters that you linked on payday...shit.
I was trying to stay local and not have to make an order, wait, etc... That's all. I'm not against getting the right filters, just wish I didn't have to order them.
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