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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Repertoire89] * 3
    #23500577 - 08/02/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh I thought of something trump says he will do: He will loosen up libel laws so people can sue journalists who write unflattering or critical things about people (by people, he means himself)

Kinda interesting that the same guy who says political correctness is ruining America wants to be able to sue people who say things he doesn't like. Remember, false accusations are already covered by libel laws - defamation is something you can sue about... if the accusations are not actually true. He wants to be able to sue for defamation even if the accusations are true.

He also thinks the father of the Muslim solider has no right to say he doesn't think trump has ever read the constitution. This sounds like the rhetoric you hear from SJWs. I thought Trump was pro free speech, and then he turns around and asserts that an ordinary citizen has no right to criticize him. Astounding.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
    #23500605 - 08/02/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Supposedly he doesn't want to tax anybody making less than $25,000 per year (or couples making $50,000 per year or less), and then the three tax brackets above that are 10%, 20%, and 25%.

Lower taxes for everybody sounds great in theory. I would want him to be president if he can make this happen.

But hypothetically, how would he reduce national debt if he reduces taxes for every single person? We lose something like $12 trillion from the budget.

If his tax plan improves incentives to work, invest, and spend, that's great. But unless the tax plan is also accompanied by spending cuts, it could potentially cause GDP deficits or debts by a substantial portion.

The question too is, if he decreases the tax for everybody, what departments or budgets does he plan on cutting? Approximately $12 trillion would have to be cut from somewhere. I'm not necessarily opposed to lower taxes, it sounds great in theory. And I think the US government has departments that are somewhat redundant or too bureaucratic and can get rid of, or downsized, such as Homeland Security. I just question if he has a plan at all. Especially if he plans to build a wall and patrol the entire border, where is he going to get the funding from this?

Hopefully his plan will not be to simply file Chapter 9 bankruptcy on the entire country. This isn't one of his failed businesses. :crazy2:

Edited by Crystal G (08/02/16 03:33 AM)

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23500617 - 08/02/16 03:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I also don't believe for a minute that Trump has never accepted bribes or political endorsements for anybody. Everybody knows a guy like Trump is very sneaky and knows how to hide the money trail.

I mean FFS, he's been caught asking foreign nationals to contribute money to his campaign, which is not allowed under the rules of campaigning: http://www.cnet.com/news/trump-spams-foreign-politicians-with-fundraising-emails/

And as somebody else said, he's not releasing his tax returns. Why?

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23500619 - 08/02/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Seeing how trump has acted so far what i imagine as the most likely scenario is that when he gets elected he just does something completely different from what was promised.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23500620 - 08/02/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Seeing how trump has acted so far what i imagine as the most likely scenario is that when he gets elected he just does something completely different from what was promised.




He will probably lose a lot of credibility when he never builds that wall.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23500641 - 08/02/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No he won't. his supporters already don't care about his never ending inconsistencies and flip flops. The rest of us already know he's never going to build a wall because we're not idiots.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23500649 - 08/02/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you guys keep describing hillary


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23500669 - 08/02/16 04:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Even many moderate democrats and liberals are not supporters of illegal immigrants. I'm not. I believe the reason the USA cannot afford to have higher standards of living or true socialism such as free education and subsidized healthcare (like the most ideal Scandinavian countries), is largely because our rate of immigration from impoverished countries is too high. It's not the only reason, but it's one of the reasons. When the social classes are too imbalanced, or if the numbers of working class people far outnumber specialized workers with a particular skill set such as engineers or scientists, and if we are constantly having an influx of high numbers of poor or uneducated people coming in every single year, then we cannot afford to support those kind of programs.

I mean, imagine if Sweden were to accept half a million immigrants from third world countries into their country. Like the refugee crisis, but worse. Let's say half takes up the working population thus reducing the numbers of jobs available to Swedes (and subsequently lowering the value of the krona), while the other half goes on some form of assisted welfare temporarily while society helps them get on their feet. Not only that, but the higher rates of immigration causes the housing market to become more desirable and competitive, thus raising housing prices and creating a bubble.

How many years can Sweden keep doing that before their economy bankrupts? The small percentage of immigrants that starts small businesses and hires Swedish nationals is not enough to offset everything else that happens. Sure, there are more taxpayers, but now there are far more people to support on social programs as well. This comes with even larger problems, when you take into consideration the fact that the average couple migrating from an underdeveloped country will have 4-5 children, as opposed to just 1.

Countries with high socialist standards of living work because the majority of the population is highly educated, middle-class, and are skilled workers. If America wants to dream of this kind of liberal utopia, the reality is they have to limit the number as well as the type of immigration into the country. Then they have to work on shrinking the poorest class, either by assigning a skill set to them, or by helping to educate them. Once the poverty situation is mostly fixed, THEN we can work towards subsidizing healthcare and education and pensions and what not for the entire population.

It would be great if we could let just anybody in and sustain a good life for all of them and everybody else, but the mathematics just doesn't work out that way.

With that said, a wall sounds ridiculous because it sounds like it would cost way more than save. I think people who are supporters of the wall underestimate just how large the US-Mexican border is. It would probably be the second largest wall built in history after the Great Wall of China.

And to just build a wall and leave it unattended would be stupid and would stop no-one. You would either have to enforce the entire wall with armed guards, or have the entire fence capable of electrocution (which I'm sure would be unfathomably expensive either way). Or you would have to build it maybe 100 feet in the air to deter people from climbing the wall--but of course, Mexicans would still be able to come by boat easily simply by rowing 1 mile away from shore, and we have known that they have been coming through paved tunnels for well over 10 years now. So armed guards would be necessary.

Furthermore, as of 2015, we have found that more illegal immigrants are leaving this country than they are entering. So potentially a wall could end up keeping illegals in, rather than keeping them out. So then people ask, why don't we have programs to hunt them down and deport them? Well, isn't that what ICE is already doing? And supposedly Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than under Bush. So I ask whether the wall really necessary, or is it going to be another added money-spending expenditure?

Edited by Crystal G (08/02/16 05:17 AM)

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23500682 - 08/02/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

He's going to lose big, and then his next reality show will have higher ratings than the last, but his only future is being a bigger national joke than he is now.

    Unless you are in your 20's you will never see another Republican president in your lifetime, and only then if they completely reverse their policies to appeal to the new American demographic, which is less white every year. The GOP goes way out of their way to make everyone who isn't  an old white male hate them.

    Yes they will get congressional seats in Southern states, but they won't win national elections when the people  who despise them: young people, Women,Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and Middle easterners are all growing demographics, and older white men are shrinking.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23500792 - 08/02/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Mexico will declare war and team up with North Korea if Trump wins


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: goop]
    #23500807 - 08/02/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality]
    #23500813 - 08/02/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thirteen minutes of straight lies from the other side:

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality]
    #23500836 - 08/02/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



This shit is why I'm voting for trump.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality]
    #23500858 - 08/02/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You can put your trust in a proven criminal psychopath like Hitlerlly or a wild card like Trump. It's not that complicated.  Either way we the trump people are Going to Win. And if you steal it from Us, we're going to hit back hard. That's just how it's going to be. We'll take this country back by force if need be. You think the military is on your pussy weak ass side? No, they're not. We're going to win and we're going to win Big, coward fucking retards

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: thenutflush]
    #23500866 - 08/02/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You can put your trust in a proven criminal psychopath like Hitlerlly or a wild card like Trump. It's not that complicated.  Either way we the trump people are Going to Win. And if you steal it from Us, we're going to hit back hard. That's just how it's going to be. We'll take this country back by force if need be. You think the military is on your pussy weak ass side? No, they're not. We're going to win and we're going to win Big, coward fucking retards




and you are the exact reason I would never tell coworkers/peers I'm voting for Trump.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23500867 - 08/02/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just curious but if you're only voting for trump because hillary is a liar and terrible, why not just vote for someone else who is qualified instead of the two that are being broadcasted to us.

I dont really care who people vote for since thats their right to pick whoever they want but Im just genuinely curious why people seem to act like theres only two options and they have to choose the lesser of two evils instead of just going for someone else

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality]
    #23500877 - 08/02/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23500882 - 08/02/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just curious but if you're only voting for trump because hillary is a liar and terrible, why not just vote for someone else who is qualified instead of the two that are being broadcasted to us.

I dont really care who people vote for since thats their right but Im just genuinely curious why people only seem to act like theres only two options and they have to choose the lesser of two evils instead of just going for someone else




Why vote for someone else again? So they can gain federal funding at 10% of the vote? I genuinely want to see trump in office, just to see what would happen, I also like his points on stabilizing tensions with russia. Voting for someone else would realistically do nothing.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23500884 - 08/02/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Because that's pretty much how all the elections play out anyways. Their only hope is to throw their vote in with the lesser of the two evils and just hope that enough people thought the same so they don't wind up with the greater one. Besides you know, those are the two that are broadcast and most of America can't even be bothered to spend 5 minutes to research anything anymore.

Of course that's assuming you believe your vote matters in the first place.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: falsereality]
    #23500886 - 08/02/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Stabilizing tensions?
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