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    #23500658 - 08/02/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here is a video if you do not know about the TPP:


Now, I have to give the credit where it is due. Trump is semi-right with this and has the right overall idea despite China not even being a part of the deal (even though China is the main country he talks about). The trade agreement is really to halt China's hold on the U.S. On top of that, he is a hypocrite because he has outsourced many of his own jobs. Trump finally gets one right for once, kind of. More than Hillary, that's for sure.



Hillary and Obama on the other hand support this. Obama is outright pushing for it. Hillary, on the other hand, said she doesn't support the TPP after Bernie said he was against it (hardly believable she is against it after pushing it for so long).

I understand this trade agreement has been in the works for a while and may not even be news to many people. But, Obama recently just said that he believes the deal will go through by the end of the year and wants to continue to push it. Finally, the first video mainly focuses on the small points in comparison to the big one- outsourced jobs.


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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23501045 - 08/02/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What's funny is republicans have been blamed for years of being the party of "the rich" and "Wall Street" thankfully I think this election cycle people are finally waking up to the fact that while pubs aren't completely inoocent, it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class with all their globalist agenda programs that benefit only the rich


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23501983 - 08/02/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What's funny is republicans have been blamed for years of being the party of "the rich" and "Wall Street" thankfully I think this election cycle people are finally waking up to the fact that while pubs aren't completely inoocent, it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class with all their globalist agenda programs that benefit only the rich




Here we go again. It is all about how the democrats are so evil or vice versa. Guess what? The republican party is extremely corrupt as well. Both parties are a joke.


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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23502066 - 08/02/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: TPP [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23502241 - 08/02/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What's funny is republicans have been blamed for years of being the party of "the rich" and "Wall Street" thankfully I think this election cycle people are finally waking up to the fact that while pubs aren't completely inoocent, it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class with all their globalist agenda programs that benefit only the rich




Here we go again. It is all about how the democrats are so evil or vice versa. Guess what? The republican party is extremely corrupt as well. Both parties are a joke.




What's funny is if you actually read my post you would see where I pointed out in no way were pubs innocent In this bullshit screwing over of the middle class, only a partisan could miss it

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:whathesaid:




Second example right here


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23502327 - 08/02/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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if you actually read my post you would see where I pointed out in no way were pubs innocent In this bullshit screwing over of the middle class, only a partisan could miss it



I reread your post, and you said this:

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it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class with all their globalist agenda programs that benefit only the rich



:shrug:


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Re: TPP [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23502429 - 08/02/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And you left out "pubs aren't innocent"

You realize the lies you tell are easily refutable? I guess not...


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23502445 - 08/02/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So why did you say "it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class" if you meant it's both the democrats and the republicans?


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Re: TPP [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23502451 - 08/02/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So why did you say "it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class" if you meant it's both the democrats and the republicans?




Becuase clinton signed nafta and Obumble wants TTP

Along with a myriad of other programs signed and endorsed by democrats, they fuck the middle class Americans over repeatedly, all in the guise of helping "the poor"


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23502720 - 08/02/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So why did you say "it's the democrats who have been fucking over the middle class" if you meant it's both the democrats and the republicans?




Becuase clinton signed nafta and Obumble wants TTP

Along with a myriad of other programs signed and endorsed by democrats, they fuck the middle class Americans over repeatedly, all in the guise of helping "the poor"




I will have to say you are right. It has been the democrats..but you also need to recognize they are CORPORATE democrats. Obama and Clinton are both of these. Democrats like Bernie have long fought the TPP. You also need to recognize the free, unregulated market is a republican idea.


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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23502808 - 08/02/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Bernie is not a democrat,

And the free market is not a republican idea, it's an American and free people's idea

If you want to be a slave to government, just say so, support Bernie and Hillary. If not, support freedom


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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23502836 - 08/02/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Enjoy paying $1000 for your next iphone


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23503038 - 08/02/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the free market is not a republican idea, it's an American and free people's idea

If you want to be a slave to government, just say so, support Bernie and Hillary. If not, support freedom



Wait, are you for or against TPP???  Your statements are very confusing.


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Re: TPP [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23503155 - 08/02/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bernie is not a democrat,

And the free market is not a republican idea, it's an American and free people's idea

If you want to be a slave to government, just say so, support Bernie and Hillary. If not, support freedom




Bernie isn't a democrat? Oh that's right! He is a part of the Tea Party. :lol:

And you missed one word out of what I said and that is UNREGULATED. An unregulated free market is a republican ideology.

And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.


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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23503402 - 08/02/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:toast:


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    #23503536 - 08/02/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: TPP [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23503999 - 08/02/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bernie is not a democrat,

And the free market is not a republican idea, it's an American and free people's idea

If you want to be a slave to government, just say so, support Bernie and Hillary. If not, support freedom




Bernie isn't a democrat? Oh that's right! He is a part of the Tea Party. :lol:

And you missed one word out of what I said and that is UNREGULATED. An unregulated free market is a republican ideology.

And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.




And wich candidate is bought and paid for by Wall Street?:popcorn:


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    #23504101 - 08/02/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.




Is that so? Tell me, what corporations have you in bondage. You know you can like, not be a consumer of their products, right? Nobody is forcing you...

Capitalism is consensual sex, socialism is rape.


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    #23504257 - 08/03/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.




Is that so? Tell me, what corporations have you in bondage. You know you can like, not be a consumer of their products, right? Nobody is forcing you...

Capitalism is consensual sex, socialism is rape.




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    #23504258 - 08/03/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Bernie is not a democrat,

And the free market is not a republican idea, it's an American and free people's idea

If you want to be a slave to government, just say so, support Bernie and Hillary. If not, support freedom




Bernie isn't a democrat? Oh that's right! He is a part of the Tea Party. :lol:

And you missed one word out of what I said and that is UNREGULATED. An unregulated free market is a republican ideology.

And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.




And wich candidate is bought and paid for by Wall Street?:popcorn:




I have told you this in a different post and I will tell you once again. Hillary is about as corrupt as they come..which means she will not get my vote come fall.

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And be a slave to the government? We are slaves to corporations right now.




Is that so? Tell me, what corporations have you in bondage. You know you can like, not be a consumer of their products, right? Nobody is forcing you...

Capitalism is consensual sex, socialism is rape.




6 corporations control 90% of the media. This influences the majority of people who mindlessly watch the news and believe everything they say.

Corporations basically control the president, congress, and I would even go as far as to say the judicial branch. For the president, it can easily be seen with the push of the TPP. The TPP would really only positively impact corporations. No president in his right mind would push so hard for something with such big risks at stake. You can also see the amount of corruption from candidates like Hillary who is bought off by big business. Congress has billions circulating through it yearly by corporate lobbyists. The judicial branch decided money is a form of free speech in the Citizens United case.

Need I say more?


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