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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23517436 - 08/06/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are be eing discouraged from voting because of the cost and or effort required to get an ID that other people already have. If you make it more difficult for someone to vote they are less likely to vote. These laws could be justifiable if there was actually significant in person fraud occurring, but there isn't. It is almost unheard of.
The real cases of voter fraud occur with mail in ballots. Someone who cared about voter fraud would make mail in fraud more difficult to commit, but that would certainly make voting by mail more burdensome. Not surprisingly, republicans are more likely to use an absentee ballot. Not surprisingly, we don't see much or any restrictions on mail in voting
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23517495 - 08/07/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: They are be eing discouraged from voting because of the cost and or effort required to get an ID that other people already have. If you make it more difficult for someone to vote they are less likely to vote.
oh, so they're lazy fuck that most likely wouldnt vote anyway because it would require some effort on their part. I have bad news sunshine, it takes effort to get somewhere in life, maybe that's why they dont have $15 to get a fucking state ID because they arent going to get off their asses and collect cans or sell dope, they want the government to hand it to them. if they arent willing to get up and get an ID then THEY are choosing not to vote since it's just to hard to leave the house, they arent being disenfranchised, they're just fucking lazy and you're making excuses for them
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These laws could be justifiable if there was actually significant in person fraud occurring, but there isn't. It is almost unheard of.
so since there isnt a significant amount of homicides by assault rifles each year per year then we shouldnt follow up on homicides with assault rifles or change any laws regarding assault rifles because it just isnt pervasive enough to justify it
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The real cases of voter fraud occur with mail in ballots. Someone who cared about voter fraud would make mail in fraud more difficult to commit, but that would certainly make voting by mail more burdensome. Not surprisingly, republicans are more likely to use an absentee ballot. Not surprisingly, we don't see much or any restrictions on mail in voting
ACORN falsified thousands of voter registration forms in one county alone in 2008, just because a few people were busted doesnt mean thousands of others have managed to get away with it, you have no clue how many cases of voter fraud there is because unlike armed robbery, it doesnt always show immediately and many cases may never be discovered
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23517584 - 08/07/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pris, it's not about being lazy. These laws make requirements that republican voters are more likely to have already met than democratic voters,
We should require everyone who wants to vote get a special Voting ID card. Only the voting ID card would be accepted at the polls.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23517913 - 08/07/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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In the Netherlands they send your personal voter's pass to your house. You have to take the voter's pass and your personal ID (Passport, ID card, driver's licence) to the place where you'll cast your vote, and three guys will check if everything is in order before you can vote.
Works pretty well, I guess?
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23517990 - 08/07/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: If you can't get your shit together enough to obtain a photo ID perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway. 
Having your shit together isn't a requirement for voting.
...or gun ownership either, apparently... . . .
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23518071 - 08/07/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Pris, it's not about being lazy. These laws make requirements that republican voters are more likely to have already met than democratic voters,
it's exactly about being lazy or maybe you think there are no impoverished republican voters, maybe you believe all blacks vote democrat and all whites vote republican which would be quite racist of you. you stated yourself that if a step is added that these people are disinclined to vote, that's them being lazy. that is them choosing not to take the extra steps to guarantee their rights to vote just as I have to take extra steps to guarantee my first amendment right and my second amendment right. if they arent taking those extra step then it's clear that they arent being disenfranchised but instead are just too lazy to do what is required of them to go vote
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We should require everyone who wants to vote get a special Voting ID card. Only the voting ID card would be accepted at the polls.
yeah, that's exactly what a voter's ID card is, an ID card for those that wish to vote but unlike the current methods it needs to have a social security card that proves citizenship. surely if they're citizens they can prove they're citizens by providing more than a piece of mail. it doesnt cost money to get a social security card but it would require an extra step, are they too lazy to spend a few hours at the social security offices
I'd still like to know how these lazy people that say they want to vote but are unwilling to take the time out of their busy schedule of doing nothing are earning their money, you cant legally work in the US without a government issued ID AND a social security card. why is it they cant get a voter ID card again?
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: vinsue]
#23518075 - 08/07/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: If you can't get your shit together enough to obtain a photo ID perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway. 
Having your shit together isn't a requirement for voting.
...or gun ownership either, apparently... . . . 
so you believe that guns are just delivered to your doorstep without having to get off your lazy ass to go buy it, get the background check, keep your record clean, etc... maybe that's how it works for democrats since they're the bulk of the criminals
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#23518193 - 08/07/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or you could just answer an ad online and have someone come over and sell you a gun and you won't have to do any of that shit.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23518393 - 08/07/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tremp is going to be puppet to a brain trust that's thrice smarter than him, and can thus take advantage of him just surely enough.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
#23518554 - 08/07/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Or you could just answer an ad online and have someone come over and sell you a gun and you won't have to do any of that shit.
wanna make a video and show us how it's done
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23518566 - 08/07/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I ordered an AR-15 online, it was shipped to some racist hillbilly who ran my ID over his 30 year old pc, I had it in my possession in minutes after arriving to pick it up.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: idiotek]
#23518586 - 08/07/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: I ordered an AR-15 online, it was shipped to some racist hillbilly who ran my ID over his 30 year old pc, I had it in my possession in minutes after arriving to pick it up.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
so you had it shipped to an FFL and he ran a background check but you're so clean that the feds would like to give you a few guns of their own
I know, it's a difficult burden to bear, I share that same problem
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23518593 - 08/07/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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free guns? bonus. one of the perks of being 'Murican.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23518606 - 08/07/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pretty much. I'm a stand up individual really.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: idiotek]
#23518626 - 08/07/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: Pretty much. I'm a stand up individual really.
you're a scotch drankin' bastard is what ya are
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23518631 - 08/07/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're goddamned right!
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: idiotek]
#23518646 - 08/07/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: You're goddamned right! 
then we're in agreement, 2016 will be a Geoff Peterson/Glen Dronach Single Malt presidency
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: idiotek]
#23518658 - 08/07/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How do so many black people manage without banks or utilities or anything on the long list of shit I need my ID for? They must not be poor because food stamps require ID
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23518659 - 08/07/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's a choice I think any self respecting white American can get behind.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: idiotek]
#23518671 - 08/07/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geoff Peterson said: That's a choice I think any self respecting white American can get behind.
Rumor has it that GlenDronach has an 18yo mistress named Sherry Cask
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