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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
#23500415 - 08/01/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was replying to koods' statement that lying about the NFL letter is so much worse than lying "to cover your ass".
Clearly a reference to something...perhaps Clinton?
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
#23500417 - 08/01/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Nice echo chamber you guys got going in here
If someone asks what 2+2 is, would you come in and say 5 just to stir up the pot? The reason we're all saying the same thing is that we're saying what is true, some people just ignore the perspectives that allow them to see the truth for what it is.
So its true that none of you know what his platform is?
I figured you were all being facetious
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
#23500423 - 08/01/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: If someone asks what 2+2 is, would you come in and say 5 just to stir up the pot? The reason we're all saying the same thing is that we're saying what is true, some people just ignore the perspectives that allow them to see the truth for what it is.
I just found out that one of my close friends is voting for Trump because he's convinced Muslims refugees are coming in illegally through Mexico.
Which is absurd, why would they go out of their way to come here when it's so much easier to get to Europe, second they have to fly here it's not like they can swim here, third how would they get to Mexico or the USA without a visa or passport, even if they had a fake passport unless they are approved for a visa they would be turned back, fourth why would they come to the USA, especially through Mexico, when it is Canada that is already agreeing to let in 3 million refugees.
Then I found out Trump and JFK are his personal heroes, he loves JFK because he tried to get rid of the federal reserve (which is a bogus assertion, this is a myth perpetuated by conspiracy theorists), he claims Jefferson tried to do the same thing even though the FED was not even existing when Jefferson was alive, and that 9/11 was also an inside job, I am sure he also believes the Holocaust never happened too.
When I asked him what actions Trump specifically is going to make to better our country and this is the video he sent me
Again, all I'm hearing is criticism of the government with no actual plan set in place to make things better.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: mycosis]
#23500427 - 08/01/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: I was replying to koods' statement that lying about the NFL letter is so much worse than lying "to cover your ass".
Clearly a reference to something...perhaps Clinton?
Which is precisely why I pointed out that you were simply bringing up Clinton as a red herring
If Trump is worth voting for you shouldn't have to compare him to Clinton to demonstrate that that is the case.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
#23500428 - 08/01/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Scroll back and see who said Clinton's name first in this thread.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
#23500431 - 08/01/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I've talked with Trump supporters and they are pretty clear that what they believe is that the moment the USA becomes less than 50% white, it's doomed. I believe what Trump supporters mean when they say Trump is going to make America Great Again is that he is going to actively try to prevent that from happening, and also be a role model for not giving a shit what the language police have to say. The latter aspect of his platform I'm actually on board with. Society has been gradually chipping away at freedom of speech, even if it hasn't been by legal means.
Exactly, that is not a legal issue. It's a cultural one. it is not the job of a president to police the culture.
That's exactly right. Milo Yiannopolous talks a lot about how this presidential race is all about deciding which President best represents the cultural values we want for America going forward, because he says the problems we're having as a society have little to do with legislation and a lot to do with a growing cultural sickness driven by pathological left-wing media narratives. It's actually a pretty compelling way of looking at things, but I just see Trump as being an extremely dangerous in the cockpit.
And regardless of how you feel about being able to express your opinion, even if it's politically incorrect, there are other reasons why someone like a president or presidential candidate needs to be careful about what they say. It's called "being diplomatic" for a reason.
Trump complains that Obama is being politically correct when he doesn't call it "radical Islamic terrorism," but it's not that simple. We have Muslim nations who are helping fight ISIS, and making it sound like this country is at war with Islam jeopardizes these relationships. NATO is an alliance whose main weapon is the perceived solidarity and stability of the alliance. It's the credible threat of retaliation that deters invasions or attack. By speaking his mind about NATO, it makes the alliance look weak. Words have consequences.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23500433 - 08/01/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: So its true that none of you know what his platform is?
I figured you were all being facetious 
He says he's going to make the economy better, but how? All he says is that he's a great businessman. What's he going to do regarding foreign policy? He says that he's not going to listen to NATO alliances and has committed treason by asking Russia to hack into government emails, frankly he sounds dangerous. He says we owe 19 trillion dollars, but what's he going to do about it? What is his plan for taxes, and what percentage is he going to use on what? Is he going to cut off funding, or add more funding for the military to stay in Iraq or other countries?
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: mycosis] 1
#23500437 - 08/01/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: I was replying to koods' statement that lying about the NFL letter is so much worse than lying "to cover your ass".
From a psychological perspective, lying when there is no need to lie is way more pathological than lying when you are pushed into a corner.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: mycosis]
#23500441 - 08/01/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: Scroll back and see who said Clinton's name first in this thread. 
don't play dumb, either you know what you were getting at when you asked whether it was worse than lying to Congress, or you're even dumber than I'm giving you credit for because you said that without even having a reference point
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23500443 - 08/01/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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his plan for taxes is not releasing his for the public to actually know about his finances 
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
#23500444 - 08/01/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It just seems like another day at the office when a politician tells a lie these days.
It's just like...whatever...
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
#23500448 - 08/02/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's sort of like what Bush's policy was over in Iraq : "we will free the living shit out of you" except it's directed towards the US public, like "we will win the shit out of winning". Makes perfect sense.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] 1
#23500469 - 08/02/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: It just seems like another day at the office when a politician tells a lie these days.
It's just like...whatever... 
There's standard politician lying, then there's trump who says one thing, then says something else months, days or even hours later.
Trump promised multiple times to release his tax returns over the past year. Now he refuses to. He literally bragged about how everyone would see how awesome they are.
A few months ago there was some video that was causing a stir and he was asked about it in a live TV interview. He said he saw the video and commented on the content. Twenty minutes later he did another interview and was asked about the video and he said he hadn't seen it.
I overheard my former boyfriend talking on the phone with his parents, telling them we had just seen a movie. But he told them we saw a different movie than we actually saw. There was no reason to make this up, but he just did and it sounded perfectly natural. That is when I realized he was a pathological liar. That's how I feel about trump. If somebody is lying about the small stuff and doing it often, you really shouldn't be entrusting that person with any responsibility.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods] 1
#23500475 - 08/02/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. Trump isn't going to win.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods] 3
#23500478 - 08/02/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: For serious though, how long has he been running and there still aren't any details for any of this shit?
I dunno... when will obama unveil his universal healthcare package
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: mycosis]
#23500480 - 08/02/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycosis said: I wouldn't worry too much about it. Trump isn't going to win.
I'm confident Trump won't win either, even if he gets the majority vote, simply because the establishment doesn't want him to win.
You know if our votes truly counted they wouldn't let us vote.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
#23500481 - 08/02/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to have a friend that was a pathological liar. He was a lot of fun.
I never tried to date him though.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: mycosis]
#23500490 - 08/02/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I started to get suspicious of him when I saw a text on his phone that popped up one night that was very sexual in nature. When I asked him about it he said someone was framing him. I literally ripped the phone out of his hand and found the messages. He continued to say he was being framed, it was totally insane.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
#23500497 - 08/02/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My friend mostly just told harmless outlandish stories. Like one time he told us this long detailed story about how he beat up two cops and made them give him his weed back.
Everyone knew he was a compulsive liar but no one really cared because he was so entertaining.
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
#23500508 - 08/02/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I started to get suspicious of him when I saw a text on his phone that popped up one night that was very sexual in nature. When I asked him about it he said someone was framing him. I literally ripped the phone out of his hand and found the messages. He continued to say he was being framed, it was totally insane.
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