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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
    #23503662 - 08/02/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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koods said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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koods said:
August 1988 Reagan 50%
August 1992 Bush 40%
August 2000 Clinton 61%
August 2008 Bush 31%
August 2016 Obama 52%





but koods. where was the 'end of term' bullshit mentioned


obama is near the bottom of the list because he has super low approval ratings, he
has always been s hit president out to create racial issues where there were none


but hey, you want to cherry pick a time where it's near it's apex. feel free

and we'll keep laughing




I'm not cherry picking. It's the last August of his presidency. Apples and apples.





once more, where did you come up with the bullshit that it's the last 3 months,
obama's approval ratings are lower than both GW and GHW, you can keep cherry
picking though, maybe if you keep telling yourself he was a great president then
one day even you could believe it


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: qman] * 1
    #23503668 - 08/02/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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2.  Building that wall isn't that expensive, grow the economy and tax revenue will soar, do you really think we can exist with $20 trillion of debt and 1% GDP growth forever?




Bro. I think you're underestimating just how large that wall is going to be. It's going to be the largest wall built in history after the Great Wall of China. It's almost 2,000 miles long or something.

How much did it cost to built Trump Tower? Or hell, not even Trump tower, how much does it cost to build 1 small 10,000 square foot parking structure, or 1 commercial building? It costs millions of dollars.

Not only that, but he will have to put armed guards all along those entire 2,000 miles, if he builds that wall, otherwise that wall will be useless. That is like hundreds of thousands of people who will have to be trained, whose salaries will have to be paid. It's great because it's creating jobs, but where is that money going to come from?

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3. Trump has proposed a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure spending program, grow the economy and restructure UD debt and it won't be a funding problem.




So is he going to employ US citizens to work in certain social programs like FDR did? I'm still not hearing the details here.

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4. Restructuring US debt means will get rid some of it, you don't think we can pay back $20 trillion of debt do you?  I must be dealt with at some point.




Again, how will he rid the deficit if his tax plan is to decrease taxes by about $12 trillion? Has he talked specifically about programs he is going to cut? Because he will probably be the most unpopular president in the history of the US if he cuts Medicare or SS.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23503671 - 08/02/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

koods said:
August 1988 Reagan 50%
August 1992 Bush 40%
August 2000 Clinton 61%
August 2008 Bush 31%
August 2016 Obama 52%





but koods. where was the 'end of term' bullshit mentioned


obama is near the bottom of the list because he has super low approval ratings, he
has always been s hit president out to create racial issues where there were none


but hey, you want to cherry pick a time where it's near it's apex. feel free

and we'll keep laughing




He's the second highest...

I'm literally starting to worry about you pris... you haven't seemed well lately.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23503687 - 08/02/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

koods said:
August 1988 Reagan 50%
August 1992 Bush 40%
August 2000 Clinton 61%
August 2008 Bush 31%
August 2016 Obama 52%





but koods. where was the 'end of term' bullshit mentioned


obama is near the bottom of the list because he has super low approval ratings, he
has always been s hit president out to create racial issues where there were none


but hey, you want to cherry pick a time where it's near it's apex. feel free

and we'll keep laughing




I'm not cherry picking. It's the last August of his presidency. Apples and apples.





once more, where did you come up with the bullshit that it's the last 3 months,
obama's approval ratings are lower than both GW and GHW, you can keep cherry
picking though, maybe if you keep telling yourself he was a great president then
one day even you could believe it




Where did I come up with it? The fucking Gallup report :cookiemonster:

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Other presidents in fourth July after re-election
George W. Bush
31
August 2008
Bill Clinton
60
August 2000
Ronald Reagan
53
August 1988
Lyndon Johnson
35
August 1968
Dwight Eisenhower
62
August 1960
Harry Truman
n/a
August 1952




http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: morrowasted]
    #23503693 - 08/02/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If you're talking about Vicente Fox, that was actually the former mexican president. To my knowledge the current Mexican president hasn't commented on it one way or the other. But I can't imagine why Mexico would ever do such a thing. Illegal immigration to the USA is their second largest source of income




Yes and no. Senior citizens and expatriates moving to Mexico generate a large source of revenue But there are also a lot of criminals running from the law in the US who hop the border and live in Mexico, and I'm sure Mexico doesn't appreciate those types coming in.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #23503714 - 08/02/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

LOL, the wall wouldn't be that expensive, Trump said $8 billion, expects claim over $12 billion, big deal.

Do you know how much illegals and their children cost US taxpayers every year? Over $150 billion in freebies, a wall and deportation are a bargain for US citizens!


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23503733 - 08/02/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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qman said:
2.  Building that wall isn't that expensive, grow the economy and tax revenue will soar, do you really think we can exist with $20 trillion of debt and 1% GDP growth forever?




Bro. I think you're underestimating just how large that wall is going to be. It's going to be the largest wall built in history after the Great Wall of China. It's almost 2,000 miles long or something.

How much did it cost to built Trump Tower? Or hell, not even Trump tower, how much does it cost to build 1 small 10,000 square foot parking structure, or 1 commercial building? It costs millions of dollars.

Not only that, but he will have to put armed guards all along those entire 2,000 miles, if he builds that wall, otherwise that wall will be useless. That is like hundreds of thousands of people who will have to be trained, whose salaries will have to be paid. It's great because it's creating jobs, but where is that money going to come from?

Quote:

3. Trump has proposed a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure spending program, grow the economy and restructure UD debt and it won't be a funding problem.




So is he going to employ US citizens to work in certain social programs like FDR did? I'm still not hearing the details here.

Quote:

4. Restructuring US debt means will get rid some of it, you don't think we can pay back $20 trillion of debt do you?  I must be dealt with at some point.




Again, how will he rid the deficit if his tax plan is to decrease taxes by about $12 trillion? Has he talked specifically about programs he is going to cut? Because he will probably be the most unpopular president in the history of the US if he cuts Medicare or SS.




Trump already said he would never touch Medicare or SS, you really don't know shit about Trump. :lol:

Again, how long do you think we can exist with $20 trillion of US debt and 1% GDP growth rate?  If we don't do something, Medicare and SS are in big trouble anyways.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23503804 - 08/02/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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koods said:
August 1988 Reagan 50%
August 1992 Bush 40%
August 2000 Clinton 61%
August 2008 Bush 31%
August 2016 Obama 52%





but koods. where was the 'end of term' bullshit mentioned


obama is near the bottom of the list because he has super low approval ratings, he
has always been s hit president out to create racial issues where there were none


but hey, you want to cherry pick a time where it's near it's apex. feel free

and we'll keep laughing




He's the second highest...

I'm literally starting to worry about you pris... you haven't seemed well lately.





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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: qman] * 1
    #23503811 - 08/02/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Trump already said he would never touch Medicare or SS, you really don't know shit about Trump. :lol:.





Obama cut medicare

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150202/NEWS/302029967


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: koods]
    #23503819 - 08/02/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Where did I come up with it? The fucking Gallup report :cookiemonster:








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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: qman]
    #23504172 - 08/03/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
LOL, the wall wouldn't be that expensive, Trump said $8 billion, expects claim over $12 billion, big deal.

Do you know how much illegals and their children cost US taxpayers every year? Over $150 billion in freebies, a wall and deportation are a bargain for US citizens!



Can I get a source on the 150mil figure? I'm not claiming it's false I just want to know where you're getting it from for my personal knowledge. Also probably half of illegals pay income tax, they paid 12billion in income tax in 2012.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: qman]
    #23504215 - 08/03/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
LOL, the wall wouldn't be that expensive, Trump said $8 billion, expects claim over $12 billion, big deal.

Do you know how much illegals and their children cost US taxpayers every year? Over $150 billion in freebies, a wall and deportation are a bargain for US citizens!




Might cost that must just for the wall. But there's also maintenance, armed staff, and a whole assortment of technology needed to patrol the wall.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: qman]
    #23504242 - 08/03/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
Trump already said he would never touch Medicare or SS, you really don't know shit about Trump. :lol:

Again, how long do you think we can exist with $20 trillion of US debt and 1% GDP growth rate?  If we don't do something, Medicare and SS are in big trouble anyways.




So he says, but that budget is going to have to come from somewhere. Maybe he will get rid of Homeland Security or what?


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23504249 - 08/03/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Every politician talks about cutting out waste, fraud, and abuse. None of them ever do, trump isn't a politician, if the federal government was run like a business, it would be infinitely more efficient


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23504262 - 08/03/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Every politician talks about cutting out waste, fraud, and abuse. None of them ever do, trump isn't a politician, if the federal government was run like a business, it would be infinitely more efficient




If he ran it like his own businesses, then his "brilliant business plan" would be to file Chapter 9 bankruptcy on the entire country. :lol:


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23504263 - 08/03/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

so true... i'd laugh if i weren't terrified


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23504276 - 08/03/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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hostileuniverse said:
Every politician talks about cutting out waste, fraud, and abuse. None of them ever do, trump isn't a politician, if the federal government was run like a business, it would be infinitely more efficient




If he ran it like his own businesses, then his "brilliant business plan" would be to file Chapter 9 bankruptcy on the entire country. :lol:




Trumps succes rate is 98.3%, I'll take that over the idiots we have in Washington any day


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23504279 - 08/03/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

embarrassing.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23504283 - 08/03/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

?

Embarrassing is people who see a billionaire and have no idea how he got that way :facepalm:


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to "make America great" again? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23504285 - 08/03/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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hostileuniverse said:
Every politician talks about cutting out waste, fraud, and abuse. None of them ever do, trump isn't a politician, if the federal government was run like a business, it would be infinitely more efficient




If he ran it like his own businesses, then his "brilliant business plan" would be to file Chapter 9 bankruptcy on the entire country. :lol:




So are you for or against efficiency?


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