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rushheadspace
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Mushroom Bruising/Bleeding (are these safe to eat?)
#23499064 - 08/01/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello friends.
I am curious about bruising & bleeding with psilocybe cubensis. I have done some reading on bruising, but I have a few points of curiosity, and a couple other random questions as well:
*Is it okay if some mushrooms bruise blue and others not (from the same batch)? Specifically if a fruited mushroom is cut in half. I expect some bruising is non-incidental -- it has to due with certain chemicals being released as the cell walls are broken? *Is a larger mushroom fruit more likely to bruise than a shorter/thinner one? *When a cap that is nearing full maturation has been harvested, is it common to see a dark gray/blackish color on the underside of the cap?
 *Would it be worrysome to find brownish-red coloration on a harvested psilocybe cubensis stem?
 *Is it okay to eat non-mature psilocybe fruits, even if they are only roughly an inch long? I have heard that for their size, they can be disproportionately potent compared to a larger fruit.

If we were speaking hypothetically, I'm curious about the Na Muang strain. Sorry for being vague -- testing the waters on these forums, and I don't want to overstep any unspoken rules. I tried to do as much research as possible before posting, including plenty of lurking these forums.
Thank you for entertaining my questions!
Edited by rushheadspace (08/01/16 09:42 PM)
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mushmagic
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When growing from spores yes its normal for some to bruise and others not.
No the size doesn't make a difference its genetics which results from growing with multispore and will continue unless you isolate genetics.
You mean the spores on the gills?
Doesn't sound normal but I'm on my tablet so its a bit difficult to see the pics.
Yes the smaller fruits are just dandy to munch and yes with multispore potency varies much more fruit to fruit so you'd have better luck with those smaller ones rather than one or two large fruits which one or both may be much weaker.
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rushheadspace
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Re: Mushroom Bruising/Bleeding [Re: mushmagic]
#23499255 - 08/01/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A more close-up view for clarification:



Thank you for taking the time to help a fool who knows too little about the sacred fungi .
Edit: My thoughts are that it isn't contamination, because if it were, I suspect you would see it growing in more of a blotchy fashion, and less like it's following the structure of the fruit itself. Also, the discoloration is only on the inside, nothing discolored on the outside, and it doesn't even run the full length of the stem, as pictured.
Edited by rushheadspace (08/01/16 06:10 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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looks like you harvested them and then dried them with a fan or something and they didn't get cracker dry the first day so they got some bacteria on the inside. I would use those fruits to make tea
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rushheadspace
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Re: Mushroom Bruising/Bleeding [Re: bodhisatta]
#23499693 - 08/01/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: looks like you harvested them and then dried them with a fan or something and they didn't get cracker dry the first day so they got some bacteria on the inside. I would use those fruits to make tea
Actually, I harvested them, and then immediately put them into an air-tight container with a large quantity of silica desiccant. If I don't mind the taste, are these fruits safe to consume? I was very cautious, always wore sterile gloves, rubbed all tools/glove tips with alcohol swabs before handling anything.
Edit: by consume, I mean consume orally. Did you suggest making them in a tea because the heat will help kill any bacteria present? I don't have any experience turning dried fruits into tea, so if you feel as though it is the safest way to consume them, do you have any advice (I guess I'm asking you how to make tea XD)?
Edit 2: I put some hydrogen peroxide on a q-tip and swabbed the discolored area, and then took a fresh q-tip and swiped the same spot and it picked up the discoloration from the surface of the dried fruit. That's a bingo-bango-bongo that it's some type of foreign substance, right ?
Edited by rushheadspace (08/01/16 08:12 PM)
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Pastywhyte
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Those are probably totally bunk if you tossed then right into a desscate chamber.
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rushheadspace
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Re: Mushroom Bruising/Bleeding [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23499987 - 08/01/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Those are probably totally bunk if you tossed then right into a desscate chamber.
Totally bunk as fucked up beyond all hope?
Those were from the 2nd flush. I didn't have any discoloration like that on my first flush, though admittedly the fruits were smaller. If I have some cracker dry stems & caps that are free of discoloration, would they be alright to eat?
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Pastywhyte
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You didn't get then dry in a desscate chamber unless you fan dried them first. Either way fan drying and desiccate takes way too long and contributes to potency loss. I ruined a bunch from my first grows by drying them in this manner. Dehydrator FTW.
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rushheadspace
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Re: Mushroom Bruising/Bleeding [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23500044 - 08/01/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: You didn't get then dry in a desscate chamber unless you fan dried them first. Either way fan drying and desiccate takes way too long and contributes to potency loss. I ruined a bunch from my first grows by drying them in this manner. Dehydrator FTW.
Thank you for the tip on the dehydrator. I did some reading about how drying affects potency, but thank you for pointing me in a clearer direction of understanding.
Here are some images of the first flush:



I harvested them a bit prematurely, so the fruits were a bit smaller, consequently they seemed to dry out better than flush #2. Do these look "healthy"? I'm curious if anything I've uploaded is okay to eat, or if I do, I'm going to end up in the hospital :P.
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Pastywhyte
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You probably will be fine.
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