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What to do? What to do?
#23498884 - 08/01/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello shroomery!
Soooo I just found out I have to leave for about five days, I have cakes that will have completed their consolidation phase.
Wondering what would be the better option...
Leave them in jars? If so how long can they stay in the jars?
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Spawn to hpoo trays and allow to consolidate over the five days while I'm gone? Then case and fruit on return.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23498903 - 08/01/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they are fully colonized, I would spawn them before you go.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23498911 - 08/01/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can put them in the fridge. It wont stop the growth but will slow it down drasticly till you get back. Dont leave them in the water if their dunking though.
What if their in the trays and someone you dont want too finds them??
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23498925 - 08/01/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're gone for only five days just leave them they're fine. Don't put them in fridge if it's that short of a time IMO.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23499107 - 08/01/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said: You can put them in the fridge. It wont stop the growth but will slow it down drasticly till you get back. Dont leave them in the water if their dunking though.
What if their in the trays and someone you dont want too finds them??
That certainly would not be good, but not an issue thankfully!
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d0urd3n said: If you're gone for only five days just leave them they're fine. Don't put them in fridge if it's that short of a time IMO.
d0urd3n-thank for the advice dude, I've seen you around here a lot as i read through different threads. Some jars will only have five days extra consolodiation time, but now that i think of it there are a few others that colonized quicker then the rest and will end up being fourteen days past 100%. Will fourteen days be too long??
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499117 - 08/01/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'll come back too fruits in the jar lol. Yes IMO thats too long. I think 5 days is too long.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499127 - 08/01/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Leave them in the jars. Have they started pinning yet? If not then leave them in the jars till you see pins, its all good.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23499140 - 08/01/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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im with ComeBack, i would leave them in the jars if the havent started pinning yet. some people consolidate for two weeks, so it shouldnt be an issue. even if you come back to pins and even fairly large pins in the jar, it will be fine. you can still dunk and roll as usual. I just birthed 12 jars, where every single one had pins, and some fairly large pins, and they are doing great. The log is here, if you wanna check em out.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23499166 - 08/01/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: im with ComeBack, i would leave them in the jars if the havent started pinning yet. some people consolidate for two weeks, so it shouldnt be an issue. .
thats new information too me.. I should try that sometime. And whats the purpose of that?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499170 - 08/01/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they are ready, why wouldn't you spawn them? That would knock 5 days off your wait till fruiting.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23499176 - 08/01/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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i missed the part where he said he was going to spawn them to bulk. just thought he was going to fruit as cakes. yeah, go ahead and spawn them then.
and Jacob, i have heard a few people say that it's done. ive heard pasty say it. i'll try to find the post.
EDIT - here's one:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19247671#19247671
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21651987#21651987
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23499187 - 08/01/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: i missed the part where he said he was going to spawn them to bulk. just thought he was going to fruit as cakes. yeah, go ahead and spawn them then.
and Jacob, i have heard a few people say that it's done. ive heard pasty say it. i'll try to find the post.
EDIT - here's one:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19247671#19247671
I believe you and believe there is a good reason I would like to know lol.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499196 - 08/01/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, RR says this in that first link:
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No. The one week consolidation period is a bare minimum. Two weeks are better. The mycelium won't 'consume' the nutrients during that time, but will rather 'absorb' them, giving a better eventual flush. If you need to store them longer than two to three weeks, use the refrigerator. RR
im not so sure on the details. but im sure it has something to do with the myc preparing itself for fruiting or something. sorry, i dont know all that much about their biology.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499201 - 08/01/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure it says it right in the PF tek. I wait till most of my jars start pinning before I dunk. I personally feel like the less time waiting for fruits in the chamber the better.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23499210 - 08/01/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Huh well that clears that up. I wish I knew that I've been doing BRF cakes for over a year
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499270 - 08/01/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks man, I appreciate it.
Yeah if it pins it's no big deal. Just dunk and roll them anyways, they'll be fine
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23500894 - 08/02/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: well, RR says this in that first link:
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No. The one week consolidation period is a bare minimum. Two weeks are better. The mycelium won't 'consume' the nutrients during that time, but will rather 'absorb' them, giving a better eventual flush. If you need to store them longer than two to three weeks, use the refrigerator. RR
im not so sure on the details. but im sure it has something to do with the myc preparing itself for fruiting or something. sorry, i dont know all that much about their biology.
Mupet-Thank you...I will always default to what RR suggests. I will make it standard to wait the two weeks if it produces a better final product.
But this brings me to my next question...will waiting for the two week consolidation phase be detrimental to the process of spawning to hpoo trays?
Here i go thinking again haha...so like does the two week wait transition the mycellium into a fruiting phase? And therefore require the mycellium to switch back to a colonizing phase once spawned to the tray, possibly confusing the mycellium and messing up its flush? Or am i overthinking this lol....
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ComebackKid said: I'm pretty sure it says it right in the PF tek. I wait till most of my jars start pinning before I dunk. I personally feel like the less time waiting for fruits in the chamber the better.
Makes alot of sense! Thank you!
Edited by Peteyboy (08/02/16 07:31 AM)
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23501140 - 08/02/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23501180 - 08/02/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
This is accurate.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23501279 - 08/02/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Urmomma said:
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mupetmower said: from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
This is accurate.
Duuuuuuuude.....you guys rock!! I love it here 
This is my first go round, I was planning on sticking with just the cakes this round(KSS + TC) then progressing to trays on the next round with my P.E's...I just had a minor panic attack when I realized the timing of my departure hahaha.
Now with the knowledge you've armed me with, I feel much better about the situation and just waiting to move to the next step when I return.
thank you!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23501310 - 08/02/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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cool deal. good luck.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23507081 - 08/03/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: cool deal. good luck. 
Soooo I get home today from work and notice a couple of these little guys on one of my cakes. It was the first to colonize, and it's only been consolidating for three days!!!

Additionally I inspect these everyday and these little pins were not there yesterday...
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23507086 - 08/03/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: cool deal. good luck. 
Soooo I get home today from work and notice a couple of these little guys on one of my cakes. It was the first to colonize, and it's only been consolidating for three days!!!

Additionally I inspect these everyday and these little pins were not there yesterday...
Edited by Peteyboy (08/03/16 07:18 PM)
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23507207 - 08/03/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you post pics?? Uh oh.. when do you leave for vacation? If they're pinning now they prolly gunna drop a spore load before you get back. Assuming you're leaving for vacation Friday...
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23507236 - 08/03/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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He double posted and left in his excitement. Wish we could see what he saw to get him that excited..
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23507315 - 08/03/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: He double posted and left in his excitement. Wish we could see what he saw to get him that excited..
Sorry guys! They are my first pins ever, and I got a lil excited...

That's just one but there are three of them on it.
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ComebackKid said: Did you post pics?? Uh oh.. when do you leave for vacation? If they're pinning now they prolly gunna drop a spore load before you get back. Assuming you're leaving for vacation Friday...
I don't leave until next week but I agree I don't think they are gonna make it in the jars until I get back...gonna have to birth this soon I would think?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23507324 - 08/03/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah dunk and roll that thing!! Woot! Hopefully you get the full first flush before you leave
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23507512 - 08/03/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ahhhh shhhhiiit!!! I'm so pumped! I will have to do it tomorrow...will keep you all posted!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23508626 - 08/04/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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hmmm yeah i was actually in a similar predicament about a month ago. was leaving for a vacation in about a week and a couple of my 100% colonized jars just started pinning in-vitro. what i did was just let them keep fruiting in the jars with the lid on. got a pretty good first flush from them, and was able to harvest the first flush the day before i left. since i wasnt going to be there for the second flush and couldnt mist them or anything, i dunked them, rolled them, and instead of putting in a SGFC, i actually put them back in their jars. my thought was that since i wouldbt be able to mist them, and i didnt want them to dry up from their dunk, that maybe them being in the jars they would hold the moisture from the dunk.
it actually worked out pretty well. i put them back in their jars, and gave them a pretty liberal mist right before i left, and then put a quart sized ziplock bag, with two holes right above the rim of the jar and then both corners of the bags cut out. got home to this:

they were almost done when i got home, but they had about 2-3 days left on them, so i was able to give them a little more water before they finished, which im sure helped. but i think it would still have been fine if i hadnt gotten back in time for that.
it's really up to you on what to do, man. seeing as how it's pinning in-vitro now, you should be alright to birth then, and get the first flush harvested right before you leave. my only worry would be it drying out for the second flush and having shit abort. might not be that big of a deal, though.. anyone gonna be around that could maybe give them a quick mist even just once a day while youre gone?
really shouldnt be that big of a deal, though, either way. good luck 
first ever pins are a great feeling!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23511868 - 08/05/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Was leaving for a vacation in about a week and a couple of my 100% colonized jars just started pinning in-vitro. what i did was just let them keep fruiting in the jars with the lid on. got a pretty good first flush from them, and was able to harvest the first flush the day before i left. "
Wait a second, so you fruited the cakes in the jar with the lid on? How do they fruit with the lid on?
I love what you did for your second flush and will most likely do exactly that if I can't figure out some help with misting...
Those shroomies are beautiful!! what strain of cubes?
I haven't birthed the jars yet, been super busy...going to do it tonight...if I skip the soak to get the flush faster, how does that effect the overall performance of the cake?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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i would definitely still dunk and roll the cake.. it needs that moisture to put out the best first flush possible. dont skip it.
and yeah, i just let the jars go, and let the fruits grow and mature without taking the lid off or anything. they will just grow and twist and zigzag around, pushing up against the glass.. it's not the prettiest thing, but it can work in a pinch =p
and i think those in the jars with the bag were B+ there was a third, GT jar, but it was harvested before those two. it had matured completely while i was gone.. i actually didnt mist those expect once before i left, when i first put them back in the jars, and them maybe once or twice when i got back a day or two before i harvested. if you can find someone to come and mist, i would just fruit them normally in a SGFC.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23519258 - 08/07/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Update us on how they are when you come back!
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Hey guys, my apologies I know it's been a few days with no updates.
So here we go... I have made the proper arrangements for misting while I am away. Since I was able to do this i birthed and dunked a couple jars that hit the 7 day consolidation mark and I also began constructing my SGFC. But as usual I fucked up the spacing on one row of holes. I accidentally made a row of holes at 1" instead of 2". This row happens to be at the same level as the 4" mark for the perlite. So the holes will lie even with the surface of the moist perlite. Is this going to ruin my chamber and cause me to start over or can I just continue with the 2" spacing all the way down to the bottom of the tub?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23521464 - 08/08/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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just make the rest of the holes at the right size and spacing, and tape over every other hole on the the row thats 1in apart. if they really are 1in apart, then you can just tape every other and bam, 2in apart.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
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mupetmower said: just make the rest of the holes at the right size and spacing, and tape over every other hole on the the row thats 1in apart. if they really are 1in apart, then you can just tape every other and bam, 2in apart.
Excelent idea sir...I would think something like duct tape, since I'm trying to eliminate the air travel through the holes...
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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Even taping every other hole would probably be overkill. I dont think youre going to have any problems with your row of one inch spacing. As long as its only one row.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
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The holes in the row are 2" apart but the entire row is 1" away from the row above it looks sort of like this... 0 0 0 0 0
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ALlright, Alright, Alriiiiiight... It's go time baby! SGFC is up and running nicely, cakes are pinning...misting and fanning schedule in place! I should be returning to some really nice clusters!!!!
Not sure what cakes are what, I didnt label my first set of jars. But its a mix of Treasure Coast, Thai Koh Samui Super Strain, and one Penis Envy jar in the SGFC.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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if they were any others besides KSSS or PE, i would say you wouldnt be able to tel the difference.. but with those, if they stick to their typical look, then you should be able to tell which are KSSS and which not.. and which one the PE is.
but maybe not.. sometimes they dont grow with their typical look.
so dont spread any of those around as prints(if you were planning to) without saying they could be any one of those.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
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Yeah I knew not labeling was a mistake immediately after i nocced em up...but i figured because of the KSSS and the PE I'd be able to tell which ones which...and the mystery sort of adds to the fun!!
As you can see I didn't repeat that mistake the next time around...one thing I will say is the PE mycellium is insanely rhizo and aggressive compared to the other two...colonizing in some cases a week sooner...I've never been more excited for vaca to end hahaha!
I wasn't planning on printing, to be honest I figured no one would want anything from such a newb, as ive never done sterile prints, but I was definitely planning on practicing this time around for personal stock and also for future endeavors lol. I want to try cloning my best specimens to agar as well.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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well, we dont grow in sterile conditions, so we dont print in sterile conditions. and most people who use prints use agar. so no problem, there. i mean, you still want to take the prints as clean as you can, using good sterile technique and a SAB, but it's not a sterile task.
kinda strange the PE is going faster than the rest. usually those take longer to colonize and fruit.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
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Never noticed PE to take longer to colonize, just to pin.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Inocuole]
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oh gotcha. not sure where i read that. thanks for the heads up.
i think it was someone talking about how they would give their PE brf cakes a longer time to consolidate to end up with less blobs. which would make since to do so, with them taking longer to pin. guess i misconstrued it to mean longer to colonize as well =p
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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I dont think anyone is worried about steril prints. Im pretty sure if youre fruiting all those strains in the same tub you may end up woth cross contaminated prints is all.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23541771 - 08/14/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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UPDATE TIME!!!! Got home to this and was like...

I know I need to harvest some of these, How do you guys think I should approach this??
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23541809 - 08/14/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look at those beautiful KSSS... I cant wait to get my hands on some someday
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
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I was worried, but they are supposed to be short and fat like that i think....right?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23541828 - 08/14/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah 
Nice cakes man
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
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Nice cakes man
Thanks dude!!! I'm super pumped haha, I gotta do a search on how to harvest now lol.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23541846 - 08/14/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gently twist and pull, or snip at the base with scissors. I prefer the scissor method, especially with cakes. Some grows are more deep rooted than others though, so it kind of depends see how it goes.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
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ok cool, Should i take all of them or just the mature ones?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23541873 - 08/14/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah KSSS first flush are short fat dense and apparently high potency. Your next flush may just grow normal cubes tho. They are ready when the gills flare up. I would try to just grab the mature ones but sometimes you cant help but pull others
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Awesome. So then i guess I would wait for the rest to mature before i re-dunk?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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Yup. You can dunk new pins too
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23542006 - 08/14/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice grow! Congrats!
You followed a tek and then got good results...
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: morty422]
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You followed a tek and then got good results...

yessir i did! I followed several teks i found on here...Love this site!
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Just thought I'd show off the monster from my first flush. I would say 80% of these are from two cakes. Just a couple small ones from two other cakes, nothing substantial from those two. But just about 90 grams fresh from my first flush off of two cakes...not bad for a newb ehhhhhh?!
the PE cake is shooting rhizo mycellium through the verm layer from its roll and they look like little hands reaching out, verrrry cool.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23543247 - 08/15/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thats awesome! Look at those giant buttons! Hopefully that rhizo mycelium you're talking about reaching out past the verm layer isnt a concern. Sometimes its a sign of low FAE, sometimes bacteria. Maybe post a pic?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
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i hope my KSSS turn out like those. nice job 
just gotta get a clean KSSS plate damn it!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
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ComebackKid said: Thats awesome! Look at those giant buttons! Hopefully that rhizo mycelium you're talking about reaching out past the verm layer isnt a concern. Sometimes its a sign of low FAE, sometimes bacteria. Maybe post a pic?
Thanks man! I wasn't sure if those were buttons or not, cause there were a bunch that size that had torn veils and flipped caps, but didn't get any bigger then a fat little button with a wavy cap hahaha. So I just figured they were mature.
I will post a pic tonight of the rhizo activity I'm talking about. Looks and smells healthy to me but I'm here for your support so im all ears!
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mupetmower said: i hope my KSSS turn out like those. nice job 
just gotta get a clean KSSS plate damn it!
I am gonna be popping my printing cherry on next flush! I know we have talked about this previously but I'm still kinda concerned about dirty prints. I highly value my reputation here lol!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23543444 - 08/15/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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agar
the best we can all do is just be as clean as possible and print in SAB... i mean, we fruit in non-sterile conditions.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23543467 - 08/15/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: agar
the best we can all do is just be as clean as possible and print in SAB... i mean, we fruit in non-sterile conditions.
Well this time around I'll be present for the fruiting process and will be able to catch the caps at their spore dropping prime time. Although the way these caps curl up like that it's going to be an interesting attempt haha! Are you working KSSS now?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23543492 - 08/15/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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just on plates. well, actually both plates i made from this particular print got bad mold. i have another print, though, which im going to put on agar in the next few days. but, from what i understand, you print them like you would any other cube. cut the cap off when it opens and drop it on some foil in SAB.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23543537 - 08/15/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Should I wait for the gills to turn dark purple? I noticed on some of the open caps the gills were still tan as if they weren't dropping their spores.
Also I think I read somewhere that they are more potent before they drop their spores, but not sure if that's true or not. Have you read this before?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23543577 - 08/15/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, its just a myth. pick them either right before, right as, or right after they tear their veils. or for KSSS, its usually when the caps curl up a little. and yeah you ca wait for the gills to get a little darker or not.. either way. its all preference, really. the caps will sit on the foil for 24-36 hours anyways to print, so they should drop enough spores in that amount of time either way.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23543687 - 08/15/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Say he takes a print from second flush and they look like normal cubes at that point. Is there still possibility to grow the mutant strain from a regular cap print?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23543695 - 08/15/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome man, that's great advice, thank you so much!
What's the best way to store them after the print is taken? Just fold the foil closed? I imagine that would damage the print...
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ComebackKid said: Say he takes a print from second flush and they look like normal cubes at that point. Is there still possibility to grow the mutant strain from a regular cap print?
Thats a good question, but I have other jars from same syringe going into FC soon. So the mutant genetics will be available either way!
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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I personally take my prints on paper. I make little rectangular shaped pieces and place the cap on half and cover with a cup or bowl or whatever. When I'm done I just fold it into a square covering the print and toss it in a ziplock. Paper gives me piece of mind over foil. Any time I have used foil there would be pools of moisture beaded all under the mushroom cap. I havent done any research on printing mind you, but I have made syringes with paper prints and innoc brf without contamination issues so far. And again most people are making agar plates from prints anyway
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
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Hmmm, that's an interesting point about the condensation on foil.
You don't have an issue with the paper soaking up the water when you make your syringe?
I was thinking about making my own syringes cause I really like the simplicity and contam resistance of BRF cakes.
But I know the holy grail of mycology is agar and grains.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
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No the paper wicks up the water from the shroom when making prints but also dries up very quickly. I dont like to create a vaccume when I put my cup over my cap making a print I have one side propped up a centimeter or so to allow the print to dry up as its printing. Give it some air.
When I take my prints out of the bag to make a syringe I just scrape off a fleck of spores with a flame sterilized xacto knife tip just like you would do with foil.
Contam resistant BRF is right. Im not going to share with you how I make my stringes because my steril procedure is so lax. But it blows my mind how I've been so lucky with BRF and then I feel bad when I see people innoculating in SAB cause they lost all their jars or something and they still face contam.
Working with agar on pasty plates now and its way easier than I imagined so far. So my sloppy syringe days are over anyway.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23544285 - 08/15/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm gonna have to find a TEK. I haven't looked into this process yet. Will do that now lol.
I have made pasty plates before, very easy. But I have a hotpot not a PC, so some contamed,I'm buying a PC today so should not be an issue any longer. I guess the natural progression is to go agar and grains.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23544825 - 08/15/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Thats awesome! Look at those giant buttons! Hopefully that rhizo mycelium you're talking about reaching out past the verm layer isnt a concern. Sometimes its a sign of low FAE, sometimes bacteria. Maybe post a pic?
So here's what i got goin on after the first haul...the rhizo activity i was talking about, wondering what's goin on with the white stuff on the caps of the buttons, and also the fuzzy white ball on the cake where i pulled some mature ones, and finally a bunch of pins or hyphal knots.

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