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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23543306 - 08/15/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Thats awesome! Look at those giant buttons!
Hopefully that rhizo mycelium you're talking about reaching out past the verm layer isnt a concern.
Sometimes its a sign of low FAE, sometimes bacteria. Maybe post a pic?




Thanks man! I wasn't sure if those were buttons or not, cause there were a bunch that size that had torn veils and flipped caps, but didn't get any bigger then a fat little button with a wavy cap hahaha. So I just figured they were mature.

I will post a pic tonight of the rhizo activity I'm talking about. Looks and smells healthy to me but I'm here for your support so im all ears!


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i hope my KSSS turn out like those. nice job :thumbup:

just gotta get a clean KSSS plate damn it!




I am gonna be popping my printing cherry on next flush! I know we have talked about this previously but I'm still kinda concerned about dirty prints. I highly value my reputation here lol!


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23543444 - 08/15/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

agar

the best we can all do is just be as clean as possible and print in SAB... i mean, we fruit in non-sterile conditions.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23543467 - 08/15/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

mupetmower said:
agar

the best we can all do is just be as clean as possible and print in SAB... i mean, we fruit in non-sterile conditions.




Well this time around I'll be present for the fruiting process and will be able to catch the caps at their spore dropping prime time. Although the way these caps curl up like that it's going to be an interesting attempt haha! Are you working KSSS now?


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23543492 - 08/15/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

just on plates. well, actually both plates i made from this particular print got bad mold. i have another print, though, which im going to put on agar in the next few days. but, from what i understand, you print them like you would any other cube. cut the cap off when it opens and drop it on some foil in SAB.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23543537 - 08/15/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Should I wait for the gills to turn dark purple? I noticed on some of the open caps the gills were still tan as if they weren't dropping their spores.

Also I think I read somewhere that they are more potent before they drop their spores, but not sure if that's true or not. Have you read this before?


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23543577 - 08/15/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, its just a myth. pick them either right before, right as, or right after they tear their veils. or for KSSS, its usually when the caps curl up a little. and yeah you ca wait for the gills to get a little darker or not.. either way. its all preference, really. the caps will sit on the foil for 24-36 hours anyways to print, so they should drop enough spores in that amount of time either way.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23543687 - 08/15/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Say he takes a print from second flush and they look like normal cubes at that point. Is there still possibility to grow the mutant strain from a regular cap print?


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23543695 - 08/15/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome man, that's great advice, thank you so much!

What's the best way to store them after the print is taken? Just fold the foil closed? I imagine that would damage the print...

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Say he takes a print from second flush and they look like normal cubes at that point. Is there still possibility to grow the mutant strain from a regular cap print?




Thats a good question, but I have other jars from same syringe going into FC soon. So the mutant genetics will be available either way!


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23543745 - 08/15/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I personally take my prints on paper.
I make little rectangular shaped pieces and place the cap on half and cover with a cup or bowl or whatever. When I'm done I just fold it into a square covering the print and toss it in a ziplock.
Paper gives me piece of mind over foil. Any time I have used foil there would be pools of moisture beaded all under the mushroom cap.
I havent done any research on printing mind you, but I have made syringes with paper prints and innoc brf without contamination issues so far.
And again most people are making agar plates from prints anyway :shrug:


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23543805 - 08/15/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm, that's an interesting point about the condensation on foil.

You don't have an issue with the paper soaking up the water when you make your syringe?

I was thinking about making my own syringes cause I really like the simplicity and contam resistance of BRF cakes.

But I know the holy grail of mycology is agar and grains.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23544255 - 08/15/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

No the paper wicks up the water from the shroom when making prints but also dries up very quickly. I dont like to create a vaccume when I put my cup over my cap making a print I have one side propped up a centimeter or so to allow the print to dry up as its printing. Give it some air.

When I take my prints out of the bag to make a syringe I just scrape off a fleck of spores with a flame sterilized xacto knife tip just like you would do with foil.

Contam resistant BRF is right. Im not going to share with you how I make my stringes because my steril procedure is so lax. But it blows my mind how I've been so lucky with BRF and then I feel bad when I see people innoculating in SAB cause they lost all their jars or something and they still face contam.

Working with agar on pasty plates now and its way easier than I imagined so far. So my sloppy syringe days are over anyway.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23544285 - 08/15/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I'm gonna have to find a TEK. I haven't looked into this process yet. Will do that now lol.

I have made pasty plates before, very easy. But I have a hotpot not a PC, so some contamed,I'm buying a PC today so should not be an issue any longer. I guess the natural progression is to go agar and grains.


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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23544825 - 08/15/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Thats awesome! Look at those giant buttons!
Hopefully that rhizo mycelium you're talking about reaching out past the verm layer isnt a concern.
Sometimes its a sign of low FAE, sometimes bacteria. Maybe post a pic?





So here's what i got goin on after the first haul...the rhizo activity i was talking about, wondering what's goin on with the white stuff on the caps of the buttons, and also the fuzzy white ball on the cake where i pulled some mature ones, and finally a bunch of pins or hyphal knots.



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