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Peteyboy
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What to do? What to do?
#23498884 - 08/01/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello shroomery!
Soooo I just found out I have to leave for about five days, I have cakes that will have completed their consolidation phase.
Wondering what would be the better option...
Leave them in jars? If so how long can they stay in the jars?
Or
Spawn to hpoo trays and allow to consolidate over the five days while I'm gone? Then case and fruit on return.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23498903 - 08/01/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they are fully colonized, I would spawn them before you go.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23498911 - 08/01/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can put them in the fridge. It wont stop the growth but will slow it down drasticly till you get back. Dont leave them in the water if their dunking though.
What if their in the trays and someone you dont want too finds them??
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Edited by JacobStorm (08/01/16 04:21 PM)
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23498925 - 08/01/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're gone for only five days just leave them they're fine. Don't put them in fridge if it's that short of a time IMO.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23499107 - 08/01/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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JacobStorm said: You can put them in the fridge. It wont stop the growth but will slow it down drasticly till you get back. Dont leave them in the water if their dunking though.
What if their in the trays and someone you dont want too finds them??
That certainly would not be good, but not an issue thankfully!
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d0urd3n said: If you're gone for only five days just leave them they're fine. Don't put them in fridge if it's that short of a time IMO.
d0urd3n-thank for the advice dude, I've seen you around here a lot as i read through different threads. Some jars will only have five days extra consolodiation time, but now that i think of it there are a few others that colonized quicker then the rest and will end up being fourteen days past 100%. Will fourteen days be too long??
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499117 - 08/01/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'll come back too fruits in the jar lol. Yes IMO thats too long. I think 5 days is too long.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499127 - 08/01/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Leave them in the jars. Have they started pinning yet? If not then leave them in the jars till you see pins, its all good.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23499140 - 08/01/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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im with ComeBack, i would leave them in the jars if the havent started pinning yet. some people consolidate for two weeks, so it shouldnt be an issue. even if you come back to pins and even fairly large pins in the jar, it will be fine. you can still dunk and roll as usual. I just birthed 12 jars, where every single one had pins, and some fairly large pins, and they are doing great. The log is here, if you wanna check em out.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23499166 - 08/01/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: im with ComeBack, i would leave them in the jars if the havent started pinning yet. some people consolidate for two weeks, so it shouldnt be an issue. .
thats new information too me.. I should try that sometime. And whats the purpose of that?
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499170 - 08/01/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they are ready, why wouldn't you spawn them? That would knock 5 days off your wait till fruiting.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23499176 - 08/01/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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i missed the part where he said he was going to spawn them to bulk. just thought he was going to fruit as cakes. yeah, go ahead and spawn them then.
and Jacob, i have heard a few people say that it's done. ive heard pasty say it. i'll try to find the post.
EDIT - here's one:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19247671#19247671
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21651987#21651987
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Edited by mupetmower (08/01/16 05:40 PM)
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23499187 - 08/01/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: i missed the part where he said he was going to spawn them to bulk. just thought he was going to fruit as cakes. yeah, go ahead and spawn them then.
and Jacob, i have heard a few people say that it's done. ive heard pasty say it. i'll try to find the post.
EDIT - here's one:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19247671#19247671
I believe you and believe there is a good reason I would like to know lol.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499196 - 08/01/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, RR says this in that first link:
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No. The one week consolidation period is a bare minimum. Two weeks are better. The mycelium won't 'consume' the nutrients during that time, but will rather 'absorb' them, giving a better eventual flush. If you need to store them longer than two to three weeks, use the refrigerator. RR
im not so sure on the details. but im sure it has something to do with the myc preparing itself for fruiting or something. sorry, i dont know all that much about their biology.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: JacobStorm]
#23499201 - 08/01/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure it says it right in the PF tek. I wait till most of my jars start pinning before I dunk. I personally feel like the less time waiting for fruits in the chamber the better.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23499210 - 08/01/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Huh well that clears that up. I wish I knew that I've been doing BRF cakes for over a year
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23499270 - 08/01/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks man, I appreciate it.
Yeah if it pins it's no big deal. Just dunk and roll them anyways, they'll be fine
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23500894 - 08/02/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: well, RR says this in that first link:
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RR
No. The one week consolidation period is a bare minimum. Two weeks are better. The mycelium won't 'consume' the nutrients during that time, but will rather 'absorb' them, giving a better eventual flush. If you need to store them longer than two to three weeks, use the refrigerator. RR
im not so sure on the details. but im sure it has something to do with the myc preparing itself for fruiting or something. sorry, i dont know all that much about their biology.
Mupet-Thank you...I will always default to what RR suggests. I will make it standard to wait the two weeks if it produces a better final product.
But this brings me to my next question...will waiting for the two week consolidation phase be detrimental to the process of spawning to hpoo trays?
Here i go thinking again haha...so like does the two week wait transition the mycellium into a fruiting phase? And therefore require the mycellium to switch back to a colonizing phase once spawned to the tray, possibly confusing the mycellium and messing up its flush? Or am i overthinking this lol....
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ComebackKid said: I'm pretty sure it says it right in the PF tek. I wait till most of my jars start pinning before I dunk. I personally feel like the less time waiting for fruits in the chamber the better.
Makes alot of sense! Thank you!
Edited by Peteyboy (08/02/16 07:31 AM)
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Peteyboy]
#23501140 - 08/02/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: mupetmower]
#23501180 - 08/02/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
This is accurate.
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Re: What to do? What to do? [Re: Urmomma]
#23501279 - 08/02/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Urmomma said:
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mupetmower said: from what i have been told/read, when spawning a cake to bulk, it istn really necessary to give it the same period of consolidation. pretty sure you can just let it hit 100% then spawn it to the Bulk. at least, that is what i was told when making Big Gulps. that it doesnt really need the consolidation, since it will be going into bulk sub, and colonizing it anyways. then, it may consolidate after it's finished colonizing the bulk sub.
so, if it were me, i would probably go ahead and spawn those jars to your bulk sub before you leave, and let it colonize the sub while youre gone, since it will need to do that anyways.
or, if you would rather wait, then i would just fruit them as cakes when you get back.
I am not the best person to give advice on this, though, because i have only spawned a few cakes to bulk before. there are other people here who have done it many more times than i have, and can probably weigh in on it better.
This is accurate.
Duuuuuuuude.....you guys rock!! I love it here 
This is my first go round, I was planning on sticking with just the cakes this round(KSS + TC) then progressing to trays on the next round with my P.E's...I just had a minor panic attack when I realized the timing of my departure hahaha.
Now with the knowledge you've armed me with, I feel much better about the situation and just waiting to move to the next step when I return.
thank you!
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