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TrimStone
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Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK
#23498113 - 08/01/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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apologies if there already a thread like this out there, anyways i looking to hunt down some Amanita Muscaria this year, in the UK, mainly the london area. My plan is to go around some major parks and forests and also parks, as I've seen many reports that they fruit there. I've been told they mostly fruit around mid-september also.
But this is my first time going M.muscaria hunting ( i took park in some wild foraging walks with some experts/knowledgeable people, to understand wild planet and fungus growth and use; in food and medicine; im really enjoying learning about herbology and mushrooms; but i have no experience hunting for A.Mus ), ill be going with someone i know, who has done it before, but he doesn't seem too knowledgeable in fungus's really. Im just wondering what are the basic tips i should know and if im going to find any in the london area, Ill be heading out mid-september, and will be looking for pine and beach trees to find them, is there anything else i should know? , where would i commonly find them, what kind of habitats and things should i look out for and are there any harmful look-a-likes, I've been told and read in the UK there aren't really any that look like amanita muscaria, that can harm you/ if at all. Also any extra info would be great, Ill be doing a lot of research before hand, and im good with not finding much/anything, this is more of a experience gaining hunt, but finding some A.muscaria would be great.
Thanks in advance.
Edited by TrimStone (08/02/16 05:11 PM)
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23498138 - 08/01/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I believe they like dead pine trees. I've seen a couple around the park where I work at in Virginia this summer. Literally only a couple, but they're unmistakable. Didn't eat them as I am completely unversed in mycology.
Reminds me now of the day I took shrooms at that same park and saw a group of kids my age seeming to be looking for shrooms. They're out there I told em lol.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: LRG]
#23498673 - 08/01/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't just look for the Reds also look for amanita muscaria var. guessowi and var. fromossa, these seem to have a larger abundance. Here I can go across the street and pick 100+ caps a week haha
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Kibby describes four varieties but I have never found a yellow capped one in the UK. You don't need a big forest for them, they fruit around a number of common trees you might find in any suburban park or hedgerow.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Joie]
#23499021 - 08/01/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is a hunting amanita section here: https://www.shroomery.org/10224/Hunting-Fly-Agarics-in-North-America
Unfortunately it's geared towards the US but you'll find many similarities.
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white birch in the uk, trust me
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Blazeyy]
#23500828 - 08/02/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for all the replies especially to my fellow brits, so i've done some research and found these are the common tree in the area ill first go hunting, himalayan birch, copper beech, willow , ash, cedar , common ash tee, japanese elms .. do you think any of them will have A.Muscaria, or should i find a new spot.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23500876 - 08/02/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just know what you're getting into regarding ingestion of muscaria types of Amanita.
I would not recommend hunting these for recreational purposes, but it's your life, do as thou wilt.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23500889 - 08/02/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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TrimStone said: thanks for all the replies especially to my fellow brits, so i've done some research and found these are the common tree in the area ill first go hunting, himalayan birch, copper beech, willow , ash, cedar , common ash tee, japanese elms .. do you think any of them will have A.Muscaria, or should i find a new spot.
The birchs, especially that himalayan (Betula utilia) i find them under 50% of Betula sp. in england after August so much so that's the only species i look for as they fruit best there for some reason in this country
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Lucis]
#23500920 - 08/02/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fennario said: Just know what you're getting into regarding ingestion of muscaria types of Amanita.
I would not recommend hunting these for recreational purposes, but it's your life, do as thou wilt.
https://www.shroomery.org/10146/Fly-Agaric-Meeting-With-God-Devil
Hmmm, i found them to be a potentiator at doses of 7 grams dried toss n wash, for example, gaba drugs, alcohol, valium. tend to work better (nearly double the rate oddly enough) when combined with a properly prepared muscaria, i just don't want people to be put off as it does have uses and i've never experienced any hallucinations, it's more like a cheap alcohol buzz, i'm not sure how people are getting so much dissociative symptoms from it, for me it is a weak active akin to alcohol. the effects are even similar (energy followed by a sedated comedown) i ain't saying it's not got the potential to cause trips like that but i feel it's way weaker than people think, also 2 medium caps can be a lot of weight for one person, one or even half a cap of soma is decent
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Blazeyy]
#23502085 - 08/02/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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TrimStone said: thanks for all the replies especially to my fellow brits, so i've done some research and found these are the common tree in the area ill first go hunting, himalayan birch, copper beech, willow , ash, cedar , common ash tee, japanese elms .. do you think any of them will have A.Muscaria, or should i find a new spot.
The birchs, especially that himalayan (Betula utilia) i find them under 50% of Betula sp. in england after August so much so that's the only species i look for as they fruit best there for some reason in this country
can't thank you enough, i was planning on not going, since i really dont think i have the experience to do so, but on the other hand, i do want to get some experience of mushroom hunting and i gotta start somewhere.
@OfflineFennario i do want to try them for sure, but i wont go over the top and i have done research on them for a large amount of time, so i think i know what im getting into; ive also done much stronger deliriants and tripped a large number of times and done a wide range of drugs. That being said thanks for the advice anyways. This isnt just me going out to get high, i could at the end of the day buy some beers and weed/shrooms/LSD/drugs and hell i could buy the A.muscaria if i wanted; saving myself a lot of time and money,but i really want to go mushroom hunting and it seems A.Muscaria is a safe starter mushroom to look for in the UK, due to its lack of deadly look-a-likes, i also really want to pick up the skil of mushroom hunting, ive really enjoyed some wild foraging walks i've been on, which consist of guides taking people around in forests and parks and telling us what we can eat and what can some medical values, not to sound all hippie, but there's a real beauty in what nature can provide and the great stuff nature gives to us for free. I'd like to not only advance my drug knowledge, i also would like to advance my foraging skills .
thanks again for the info guys, and any little tips or other basic info you think would be useful to be would be much appreciated. Im still doing research and will do so for this whole month to get ready for the hunting, but reading up on it, isnt anywhere near as good as other people first hand experience. i plan to go mid-sept, and see what around.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Blazeyy]
#23502832 - 08/02/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said: The birchs, especially that himalayan (Betula utilia) i find them under 50% of Betula sp. in england after August so much so that's the only species i look for as they fruit best there for some reason in this country
Is any birch okay ? silver birch is more native to the UK and seems to be the only birch i see around. Also any other trees, they mainly grow in, there seems to be a wide range and i'm just wondering if they are more commonly found on certain trees. Already got 3 spots that ill be keeping an eye on, maybe more to come. The problem is that the birch trees are not in large amount, just a few about 10ish at each spot, and im wondering if 10 is too small to allow the A.muscaria to grow.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23503140 - 08/02/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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silver (b.pendula)is best here i have just two in my spot and both fruit a.muscaria
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Blazeyy] 1
#23504860 - 08/03/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said: silver (b.pendula)is best here i have just two in my spot and both fruit a.muscaria
once again i can't thank you for the advice and confidence youve given me. best of luck to your hunting and if i think of anymore questions, ill be sure to ask.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23525157 - 08/09/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been looking for days now, but cant find a good answer, so thought i ask ppl with first hand experience, in the Uk would be great, what time/ month would you say i would find the most fruit bodies. Im going to head out mid september after a few days of heavy rain if i can, but is september not the best time ?. Im looking for the month/time when im most likely to find A.muscaria.my friend claims mid september is the best time, stop get them before anyone else, but like i would expect more than one flush of them, so i dont think we should go at the start but rather the time were liekly to find a large amount of them, just to up our chances of finding them really, then again if there more about, people might get to them before us, so he might have a point.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23525189 - 08/09/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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would people seriously be looking for A. muscaria (and as such getting them before you) in sept during P. semilanceata season?
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: relic]
#23525488 - 08/09/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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relic said: would people seriously be looking for A. muscaria (and as such getting them before you) in sept during P. semilanceata season?
thats a good point, but you never know. if you find them, while out looking for P.semilanceata why not just taken them ( then again they are in vastly different habitats), also my hunting spot is in a urban area, and so the main shrooms people would be looking for is A.muscaria, due to the lack of a large number of places/spots to hunt for P.semilanceata, that being said this is my first year hunting for them so all of this is guess work and from what ive been told by my friend. Anyways itll still be great to know thier peak time of growth, the time when i can find the most, just to increase the chances of finding them, would suck to go on a 2 hour drive to a silver birch forest, look around for maybe 2 hours and not find any. I'm probably gonna smoke some weed, just so it doesnt feel like a wasted day, if i do turn up empty handed. Also going to look for some other edible species while im there, got myself a mushrooms guide and looking forward to using it, so it should be too bad of a day.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23525516 - 08/09/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is such a boring thread. No mushroom has been found. OP has been thinking about taking a walk for more than a week but just wants to know if he will get lucky or not. No offense but
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: Joie]
#23525849 - 08/09/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Joie said: This is such a boring thread. No mushroom has been found. OP has been thinking about taking a walk for more than a week but just wants to know if he will get lucky or not. No offense but 
Im going to start looking for them in a month, i would go today; but i dont think theyre fruiting now, since its been real hot where i live and not much rain, ive also kept an eye for them in the local semi-wild woods/parks and havent seen any... Im just getting the knowledge now, theres no point trying to blindly look for a mushrooms when i have no idea where and when it grows. I've just got into mushrooms hunting and i would have looked for liberty caps, but i dont feel im at that stage yet. so im looking for a much easier active mushroom.
when i started cultivating shrooms, shroomery and its members offered me so much help and the process, of growing them, i felt i just didnt know enough at any stage, almost every stage i was worried i had done something wrong or had 3 or more questions, honestly a lot of them were real stupid now that i have a much greater exp of growing shrooms. so to save time now i just wanna get as much info as i can. I did a bunch of research into it, and got a lot of info, but i was looking for first hand experience, being book smart doesnt really offer much. So from growing shrooms, which was a new hobby at the time, i think i learnt a lot about taking up a new hobby and shrooms, My bad if this is boring, i can understand where youre coming from, but im new to this and just wanna learn as much as i can. I will be looking for them for sure, but ive walked in many woods and forest and ive never seen A.muscaria in my life... which isnt a great sign to me.
My bad if i look like im just trying to get lucky and high, you do have a point in that i gotta put some effort into this and should be willing to get nothing in return.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria hunting in the UK [Re: TrimStone]
#23525908 - 08/09/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're never going to have a bad time mushroom hunting if the point of going is to enjoy nature and find out what it has to offer. You may not find what you're looking for, you may come out empty handed. or you may find something unexpected but, at the very least, have a good day of hiking in the woods.
Foraging is about tuning into where you are and what it has to offer. I'm not saying just walk blindly into the woods but you've gotten some good advice already. As you say, "first hand experience". You gotta get it yourself. Go out and find stuff! Even if it's not muscaria, what you find will help you learn what's growing where and when. That's the key to foraging... where and when. That comes from observation and learning the terrain. I've found species that shouldn't have been where they were, when they were. but they were in this weird micro-climate, and they grew there.
Advice is fine, experience is better!
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