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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23497827 - 08/01/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: Way way off point , problem with extremist is their living conditions are no longer tolerable. They iraq invasion went on for too long , it made things untolerable so next time you see a.terrorist act think " sorry weve made things untolerable" and nothing else , have some respect.
American invasions don't typically drive people to extremist organizations, not most of the time. Their fight is more with other Muslims for gang related pseudo-religious, organization funded motives. They fight for territory to continue drug and oil smuggling, training more people to fight and continuing to kill people they have religious disagreements with. We are just a major hindrance to their conquests, and get retribution through suicide attacks at home, often through disgruntled Muslims who grew up in the areas they are attacking that were convinced to hurt people through online interactions.
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Kinko said: What a simpleton...you think these " terrorist " just woke up one day and said " gee I feel like dying a violent horrible death and taking as many infidels with me as possible "
You might not be able to conceive anyone doing that yourself, but yes more or less. Plenty of westerners wake up one day and say, "Gee, I feel like fighting a war with little consideration for whether or not I may be killed. I just want to take down as many Muslims as possible before I go.".
Blood-thirst is a common human emotion. It exists between all cultures. 
The reality is that they don't wake up and do it. They are slowly indoctrinated into it for various reasons. To become a martyr for any cause bigger than yourself is a noble death for many, Muslim or not.
Did the Japanese in WW2 just wake up one day and decide dying a violent horrible death was worth it if they could take down as many American's down as possible? Sure, after years of indoctrination. We weren't exactly forcing them to submit, and we weren't in their land before they attacked. People are willing to die for a cause. They are willing to commit suicide as well.
So if china invaded the usa with their billion people and started killing US civilians from collateral damage how would the us U.S. population react ? How would you react if the chinese invaders bombed ur wife and daughter by accident ? Then your neighbors and so on.... I bet you would become a " terrorist " things would have gotten intolerable ...
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Apostle]
#23497835 - 08/01/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: next time you see a.terrorist act think " sorry weve made things untolerable
I'm gonna assume you're joking. It's better for my health.
Yeah. This "untolerable" word has got to stop.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: deucedbi9]
#23497846 - 08/01/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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stop being so untolerant you nazi
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: deucedbi9]
#23497851 - 08/01/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko]
#23497854 - 08/01/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko]
#23497855 - 08/01/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: qman]
#23497892 - 08/01/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
What a horrible joke should russia invade the states because of all the illegal mexicans hopping the border ???
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko]
#23497910 - 08/01/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
What a horrible joke should russia invade the states because of all the illegal mexicans hopping the border ???
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23497924 - 08/01/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
What a horrible joke should russia invade the states because of all the illegal mexicans hopping the border ???

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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko] 1
#23497927 - 08/01/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
What a horrible joke should russia invade the states because of all the illegal mexicans hopping the border ???
You're horrible at this, give it up.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko]
#23498136 - 08/01/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: So if china invaded the usa with their billion people and started killing US civilians from collateral damage how would the us U.S. population react ? How would you react if the chinese invaders bombed ur wife and daughter by accident ? Then your neighbors and so on.... I bet you would become a " terrorist " things would have gotten intolerable ...
We were talking about people who are largely from the countries they are attacking. Domestic terrorists with jihadist idealism. These people generally don't have their family members bombed by invaders, they grow up for years in the countries they are bombing, they go to the theaters and the clubs they shoot up and they've walked down the same streets they run trucks into. They've looked at the churches they decide to attack.
This isn't much different from suicide attackers in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan either. These people aren't attacking the militaries fighting against them when they commit these suicide bombings. They aren't attacking the local police forces most of the time either. It's quite the opposite. They attack civilians to purposefully alienate themselves from that society, and instead of trying to prevent future war they are literally inviting it. Because their source of power is through constant warfare. It's how they maintain authority.
Let's put your scenario like this:
China gets permission to perform wartime operations in the United States from certain factions within the government. The operations are targeted at a rampant militia that has taken over Kansas and slayed everyone who is non-Baptist-Christian. Militia takes over the entire state and attempts to establish it's own state using weapons it obtained from invading military bases, and using money it obtained from sacking the banks. Militia sets up controls over the food supply, enslaves and rapes the women, and kills dissident men who will not join the cause.
China blows up their city as it's a stronghold and regretfully kills too many civilians who were not taking part in the occupation. Pisses some people off for sure. Not only has the militia taken everything from them, but the ensuing conflict has left someones family dead. He's lost and alone and wants no part in warfare. It's destroyed his life.
The Walmart one city over is full of people who are not about this militia, and whom haven't submitted to the new government propped up, a lone bomber who's been primed to martyrdom and has been convinced he will go to heaven for his actions goes in and blows them all up or shoots them all to keep them scared and to show them that they must submit or they and their loved ones will die by whatever means necessary.
That's a more apt comparison I'd think.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: PatrickKn] 2
#23498187 - 08/01/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Malcolm x used to be racist, until he became a Muslim. Islam had a profound impact on him towards the end of his life (highly recommend his autobiography) Mohammed Ali, who refused to go fight in the war, was also a Muslim.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: shellzenone]
#23498248 - 08/01/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: Malcolm x used to be racist, until he became a Muslim. Islam had a profound impact on him towards the end of his life (highly recommend his autobiography) Mohammed Ali, who refused to go fight in the war, was also a Muslim.
So, did Malcome X become a not-racist after cnverting, or was he still a black supremicist like that retarded piece of crap Muhammed Ali?
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: specialpeopleclub] 1
#23498265 - 08/01/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: Great, Islam discourages racism, one point for islam
That must be why you don't like it
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#23498285 - 08/01/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: Malcolm x used to be racist, until he became a Muslim. Islam had a profound impact on him towards the end of his life (highly recommend his autobiography) Mohammed Ali, who refused to go fight in the war, was also a Muslim.
So, did Malcome X become a not-racist after cnverting, or was he still a black supremicist like that retarded piece of crap Muhammed Ali?
Great, Islam discourages racism, one point for islam
I would hardly say TWO people that converted to Islam and making them potentially LESS racist is evidence that "Islam discourages racism".
What about the hundreds of millions people that follow Islam and are extremely racist? That's the proof that Islam promotes racism.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: qman]
#23498315 - 08/01/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is racism anyway? I dont hate anyone or think less of them personally because of their race. I recognize that blacks have failed very badly, well Asians and European Caucasians have made decent societies. Genetics effect intellegence. I know Im not the smartest person ever, and there are many who are just smarter. They learn faster, integrate knowledge better, can recall things that I would forget.
Islam is evil though. It defenatly promotes hating Jews and Infidels, so, everyone else
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#23498397 - 08/01/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: Yeah, let's just give ISIS a microphone.
I don't mean ISIS, I mean the other French people or other Muslim people. Unless you are saying that the other Muslims are ISIS
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: Kinko]
#23498409 - 08/01/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: Way way off point , problem with extremist is their living conditions are no longer tolerable. They iraq invasion went on for too long , it made things untolerable so next time you see a.terrorist act think " sorry weve made things untolerable" and nothing else , have some respect.
Plenty of terrorists and terrorist leaders have come from middle-class, even wealthy homes. Plenty of them also grew up in places like the UK, or Switzerland.
There are also plenty of people living in those conditions you are referring to who despise the terrorist organizations, and are glad when USA invades. Plenty of marines say they have been thanked by the civilians while they have been on tour in Afghanistan and Iraq.
But seriously, apologizing for being attacked? I'm sorry, I usually refrain from using this word in politics, but that is the cuckiest shit I've ever heard. Only a cuck would invite people in to attack and rape them, and then apologize about it afterward. That is by definition, a cuck.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: specialpeopleclub] 1
#23498436 - 08/01/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: What is racism anyway? I dont hate anyone or think less of them personally because of their race. I recognize that blacks have failed very badly, well Asians and European Caucasians have made decent societies. Genetics effect intellegence.
Race has nothing to do with intelligence. The reason you think 'blacks have failed' is because a vast majority of them are poor.
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Re: France church attack: Muslims attend Mass in solidarity with Christians. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23498441 - 08/01/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinko said: IIt's a matter of facts here , when things are made untolerable people often react violently , I respect terrorist they are only showing what its being done to them on a daily basis and for many many years... Without people caring.... so if its no big deal to kill muslim children and women then their acts are acceptable as long as it's an even play field.
Why did the US go militarily into the Middle East in the first place? To save a country from an illegal invasion.
Muslim terrorism started before the US started throwing bombs into Iraq, so what's your excuse for that action?
What a horrible joke should russia invade the states because of all the illegal mexicans hopping the border ???

Exactly invading a country because a third party is migrating therr e is fuking retarded ..... Republicans...
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