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Shrooms4fun
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How to dry horse manure?
#23497202 - 07/31/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I have horse manure and it's not exactly dry to what I have read it should be,it's consistency is about that of play dough. I'm curious of ways I can quickly dry and cure this to get the ammonia to evaporate properly and get it to the crumbly consistency that it should be in. I have read somewhere here than a dehydrator would work for this. I work at an industrial poultry ranch where the chickens are caged and plastic like belts run under the cage to gather the manure and the go's threw rollers to flatten it from there upward to a tunnel that is 6 layers thick (1 layer per level high of chicken cages) and the complete process there is about 3 days until total dryness, to help dry the manure there are attic fans suckling heat upward threw the cages and up into the tunnel as well (the whole house of chickens on a hot nasty day can exceed 90 degrees). Any how the whole reason for even bringing that about is that is essentially what the dehydrator would do I would imagine if I were to roll it flat onto the tray or something and keep the Temps below the sterilization Temps of 160 I believe (if I'm wrong correct me). Any feed back thoughts or ideas?
Edited by Shrooms4fun (08/01/16 12:06 AM)
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: Shrooms4fun]
#23497240 - 07/31/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it's unprocessed or lump poo dry it in the sun on a tarp for a few days, and it's okay if it gets rain or heavy dew on it. Don't put poop in the dehydrator. After that it should be pasteurized properly for indoors or crumbled for outdoors.
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Shrooms4fun
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23497370 - 08/01/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lump poo...as in rounding shaped kina like large rabbit poo?
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: Shrooms4fun]
#23497714 - 08/01/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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korn16ftl3 said: So I have horse manure and it's not exactly dry to what I have read it should be,it's consistency is about that of play dough. I'm curious of ways I can quickly dry and cure this to get the ammonia to evaporate properly and get it to the crumbly consistency that it should be in. I have read somewhere here than a dehydrator would work for this. I work at an industrial poultry ranch where the chickens are caged and plastic like belts run under the cage to gather the manure and the go's threw rollers to flatten it from there upward to a tunnel that is 6 layers thick (1 layer per level high of chicken cages) and the complete process there is about 3 days until total dryness, to help dry the manure there are attic fans suckling heat upward threw the cages and up into the tunnel as well (the whole house of chickens on a hot nasty day can exceed 90 degrees). Any how the whole reason for even bringing that about is that is essentially what the dehydrator would do I would imagine if I were to roll it flat onto the tray or something and keep the Temps below the sterilization Temps of 160 I believe (if I'm wrong correct me). Any feed back thoughts or ideas?
thats nuts dude!
do u guys store and use the manure, or are u processing it to sell?
do outside in the sun. use a pallet covered in burlap or something porous so that if it rains, the water falls thru the gaps in the pallet, and air is able to move underneath the poo.

can use concrete too (asphalt is like an oven)

I wouldn't use a dehydrator, but if ur used to the smell of drying chicken manure, u can probably stand any other smell
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Nature should be drying it out
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Shrooms4fun
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23497793 - 08/01/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Nature should be drying it out
The company I work for stores it in a barn and bags it to sell as fertilizer they also sell it by the truckloads to other farmer we ship a lot to texas...the main point I was trying g to make behind explaining that prices was that it really is just like a giant dehydrator in theory
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: Shrooms4fun]
#23497926 - 08/01/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol. Sure but it really should get sunbleached and rain "leached". Finding a few wet pieces under sunbleached piles in a pasture is fine, but dehydrating fresh barn poo in a dehydrator isn't anywhere near the same as pasture poo sitting for months exposed to the elements. Drying out fresh poo doesn't get rid of all the ammonia IME. You get it rehydrated, and shit will smell WRANK, and the pasteurization process makes it smell worse.
Old pasture poo + sun drying the few wet pieces on a tarp have had no bad smells when prepped.
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: Mad Season]
#23497944 - 08/01/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dried it out in a basement one time,no sun. I'm not sure how old it was when I collected it, but couldn't have been more than a month, so the amount of rain that fell on it was probably minimal. When I broke it up to use it, it had a different texture than if it was dried outside, it was harder to break up and not as crumbly/fluffy. I dunno if that was because the lack of sun or lack of rain? it was weird, but after that, I always left it outside for a bit.
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Sun dried dirt, manure, etc always gets more crumbly IMO sun beats the fuck out of stuff.
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23498165 - 08/01/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What others have stated....
Sun dried/aged is the way to go. Anything else it will not be right.
If you are needing manure immediately I would suggest buying a 50lb bag of BLACK KOW manure for 5 bucks....
While I think dried/aged horse and sheep shit works excellent, I have also had good results with the Black Kow the few times I used it...
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Well I have about 3 hot days with no rain expected so perhaps I will flatten it out on a trash bag to make it thinner and dry faster in the sun....I see a lot of talk about rain leeching.....what is that all about is it something g that can be simulated by simply dampening it? I have about 12 days until the spores arrive and then I still have to get the mycelium going in the jars and hope there are no contaminting and all that good stuff too so time shouldn't be much of an issue
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Re: How to dry horse manure? [Re: Shrooms4fun]
#23500040 - 08/01/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is no reason to rain leach poo unless it's directly from stables. Field collected or aged poo lumps only need to be sun dried. Rain leaching is for poo that has ammonia from being pissed on and collected from places that are not exposed to natural elements.
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