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Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help.
#23496594 - 07/31/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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when i take shrooms i have suicidal thoughts. It is like an entity talking to me. It always asks why do you want to suffer. Just do it and you'll be free. Then i remember that there are still people out there that care for me and love me. i don't want to hurt them or make them sad with my actions. At the same time the mushrooms show me all the pain in my life and it sometimes becomes so intense that i start crying. I have never felt so sad before. I never express my feelings, so that is quite shocking. I just feel exhausted and tired of life. truth is that I want to get better but i feel like i don't have the energy to overcome this chapter of my life.. what should i do?
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23496625 - 07/31/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Set and setting.... dont use psychs when you feel like that. Wait for a day when you are feeling great about yourself and are in an optimal setting to suit your needs. If you still feel that low during a trip have some good uplifting music ready to play. You'll be amazed at how minor changes like that can effect the trip.
And if you still have those thoughts I'd say stop using psychedelics until you seek help for your issue. Best of luck bud
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras] 1
#23496631 - 07/31/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well the mushrooms are clearly showing you that you are depressed and showing your true inner most thoughts, I would set some goals if you want to survive and do something to better your self, it may help to microdose mushrooms or LSD to alleviate daily depression, or if you really can't get over it by your self you may need the help of anti depressants until you get on your feet. Eat healthy, drink water, meditate.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23496875 - 07/31/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Get professional help for the depression. mushy effects depend highly on your attitude.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23496889 - 07/31/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Soras,
I've heard people talk about entities before, in actual fact its more likely your subconscious thoughts that your conscious mind is hearing and becoming aware of on Mushrooms (normally you wouldn't be aware of the subconscious mind however mushrooms seem to open up the gateway to be able to access this level IME).
No need to be afraid, like the other guys say the experience is really just showing you your deeper emotions and sadness, time to look at getting some help perhaps some meds or counselling to help you feel better about things before having the mushrooms again.
Best wishes!
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23497012 - 07/31/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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soras said: when i take shrooms i have suicidal thoughts. It is like an entity talking to me. It always asks why do you want to suffer. Just do it and you'll be free. Then i remember that there are still people out there that care for me and love me. i don't want to hurt them or make them sad with my actions. At the same time the mushrooms show me all the pain in my life and it sometimes becomes so intense that i start crying. I have never felt so sad before. I never express my feelings, so that is quite shocking. I just feel exhausted and tired of life. truth is that I want to get better but i feel like i don't have the energy to overcome this chapter of my life.. what should i do?
can you get some help or support to get yourself this and help you along the healing process?
I find it very difficult to stay on the healing path all by myself. unfortunately i have had very little support in my life and it has been a very difficult journey for me.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Peyote Road]
#23497268 - 07/31/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Listen to Jan Hammer Group ....problem solved.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: voodoochild1000] 1
#23497537 - 08/01/16 02:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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even if you decide to kill yourself one of these days don't do it until you have come down completely... likelyhood being you won't do it. This is good common sense.
antidepressants only cover the symptoms of the depression and do not deal with the real issues. Suicide also is no solution to suffering and simply spreads the suffering outside of your body. Us, Life, all being one consciousness of interconnected beings; The suffering will only spread to everyone you have contact with and will increase exponentially as it does so. Thinking suicide is a solution is short sighted.
Seek medicine, take psychedelics as medicine. Don't be afraid, you are on a path, just keep moving forwards. Ask the mushrooms for help. Read into Buddhism (=suffering is caused by attachment). Research Ayahuasca. Meditate. Shamanic drumming? 
Healing is awesome, and it is all ahead of you.
inhale love
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: 3waesz]
#23497558 - 08/01/16 03:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's a heavy sign that psychedelics aren't solving anything for you at this current point in time, you should take a large break or maybe even completely eradicate use all together. Psychedelics are fairly dependent on your setting of mind.
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Psychedelics don't effect the depressed mind in the same way they effect a healthy one. Get help friend!
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: trvptamine]
#23497607 - 08/01/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If taking shrooms makes you feel suicidal then stop taking them. Why are you even taking them in the first place? Have you asked yourself that on a deep one? Like why are you tripping?
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: YeOlde]
#23497863 - 08/01/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you should read more into budhhism
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: oontribe]
#23497873 - 08/01/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please don't listen to people with no medical experience ??? Medicine may "cover" symptoms but it allows the user to take advantage of commonly used cognitive methods..... Seek PROFESSIONAL help. Suicidal thoughts are not a joke, they are not to be worked through on your own. If you were capable of using personal mental strength to dig yourself out of this hole you wouldn't have fallen into it in the first place. I will scream this again. PROFESSIONAL HELP.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Terpfreak]
#23497879 - 08/01/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every time I hit myself with a hammer, I get a big knot on my head.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: oontribe]
#23497884 - 08/01/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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can you get some help or support to get yourself this and help you along the healing process? I find it very difficult to stay on the healing path all by myself. unfortunately i have had very little support in my life and it has been a very difficult journey for me.
I am not sure if anyone wants to help. i usually don't like to bother other people with my problems.
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If taking shrooms makes you feel suicidal then stop taking them. Why are you even taking them in the first place? Have you asked yourself that on a deep one? Like why are you tripping?
i read that they help so i just decided to try them out.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Terpfreak]
#23497885 - 08/01/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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These thoughts are not YOUR OWN. This is a CHEMICAL inbalance , created by mental habits and stimuli around you that you are unable to work through. Suicide may be "short sided" but it is no ones place to tell you such a thing when you can't control how you feel.. This is the equivalent of telling someone who's sad to just get better.. What nonsense is that?! Please do not get mental health advice from people who think the shroomies make them all knowing gods capable of traversing the universe.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23497916 - 08/01/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i read that they help so i just decided to try them out.
Erm well you didn't say anything about your "problems". Help with what? I mean are you depressed already? Suicidal when sober?
Your post creates an assumption that you're "normal" until you take shrooms and then you feel suicidal...
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: YeOlde]
#23497956 - 08/01/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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truth is i don't really know what my problems are. I just have this constant feeling of exhaustion, wanting to stay in bed all time. sometimes i get this thought what if it just ends. would everything be okay then. I did some research and i found promising studies of end of life anxiety / depression in cancer patients. It motivated me to try it.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23497998 - 08/01/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i read that they help so i just decided to try them out.
Erm well you didn't say anything about your "problems". Help with what? I mean are you depressed already? Suicidal when sober?
Your post creates an assumption that you're "normal" until you take shrooms and then you feel suicidal...
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soras said: truth is i don't really know what my problems are. I just have this constant feeling of exhaustion, wanting to stay in bed all time. sometimes i get this thought what if it just ends. would everything be okay then. I did some research and i found promising studies of end of life anxiety / depression in cancer patients. It motivated me to try it.
Good for you. Still, try to find diagnosis. I struggled for ten years with fatigue and chronic pain before being diagnosed in another fucking state FINALLY by some good doctors. Figuring out your real world issues before delving into creative drugs - that's important. It might not even be a mental issue- maybe a change of living is needed- but it's not up to us to decide - it's up to you and a doctor.
What EXACTLY are you trying to figure out here? If the shroomies caused you this dilemma or how to fix it?
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Terpfreak]
#23498053 - 08/01/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jan Hammer
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23498063 - 08/01/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't sound like you're in a good enough place in your life to be messing with indole hallucinogens but that's just my opinion. I don't think someone should continue to take something like mushrooms if it gives them truly legitimate suicidal thoughts.
I mean I'll be honest having the thought while you're tripping that you could just kill yourself (take yourself out) or really anyone around you is not uncommon, this is usually when the individual has a feeling of eternalism https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Feelings_of_eternalism This usually isn't a result of anxiety though just mind expansion being too convincing. Most people never follow through, some people consider hundreds or even thousands of different things during crazy trips sometimes. Thinking about things or having things that come up that are unusual or unpleasant are normal but this is usually surpassed by love and spirit.
A lot of people can experience pretty crazy things during the mushroom come up because it generally feels very anxious on the come up. The individual usually feels apprehensive and even pessimistic which would fit what you're describing. This can even feel like impending doom which is another common effect with psilocybin (psilocin) https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Feelings_of_impending_doom
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (08/01/16 10:48 AM)
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Return to forever?
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: voodoochild1000]
#23498098 - 08/01/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You tell those shrooms you are a child of Light and that you will bathe in the blood of vengeance against all evil lol.
Seriously, though, dude. Stop taking shrooms if they give you these thoughts. It's rather impressive you continue to do so, and shows quite a lot of inner strength within you. Don't let temptation of an easy route distract you from your path.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: soras]
#23498128 - 08/01/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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soras said: truth is i don't really know what my problems are. I just have this constant feeling of exhaustion, wanting to stay in bed all time. sometimes i get this thought what if it just ends. would everything be okay then. I did some research and i found promising studies of end of life anxiety / depression in cancer patients. It motivated me to try it.
Sounds to me like you want to suicide and are looking for something to make it less fearful and easier for you to commit. If you heard it lessens end of life anxiety then you shouldn't be surprised that it's making you feel a lure to want to end it.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: LRG]
#23498311 - 08/01/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LRG said: It's rather impressive you continue to do so, and shows quite a lot of inner strength within you
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Sounds to me like you want to suicide and are looking for something to make it less fearful and easier for you to commit. If you heard it lessens end of life anxiety then you shouldn't be surprised that it's making you feel a lure to want to end it.
I don't think that is what he wants. He said he wants to get better. don't push him in the wrong direction.
yeah... you have inner strength. facing your inner devils again and again. I personally would not be so strong. There is a flame in you, a flickering flame, don't let it be extinguished.
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: crissel]
#23499275 - 08/01/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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if ur on ssri's etc don't use mushrooms use one or the other, but not both, my mind improved when i switched to mushrooms but maybe you will benefit more from therapy and medication, no matter how shit things get i don't get suicidal, i have intrusive thoughts but they don't follow into trips, trips for me are healing and really do work for depression even though i hardly changed my lifestyle but now i go out etc something that i found difficult before, i'll meet girls and friends if they ask before i was too anxious
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: Blazeyy]
#23500898 - 08/02/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Make sure to reply back to us so we know you're doing ok, we can seriously help out, a lot of people have been or are in the same boat especially on these forums from who i've spoke to
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Re: Suicidal thoughts on shrooms. Please help. [Re: crissel]
#23501036 - 08/02/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds to me like you want to suicide and are looking for something to make it less fearful and easier for you to commit. If you heard it lessens end of life anxiety then you shouldn't be surprised that it's making you feel a lure to want to end it.
I don't think that is what he wants. He said he wants to get better. don't push him in the wrong direction.
yeah... you have inner strength. facing your inner devils again and again. I personally would not be so strong. There is a flame in you, a flickering flame, don't let it be extinguished.
I'm not pushing him in any direction. I'm simply trying to establish the truth. What he said doesn't make sense.
He heard shrooms can help lessen end of life anxiety in terminally ill cancer patients, decides to try them and then reports back here saying he feels more suicidal. Almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Shrooms for me have helped me with depression and PTSD. I don't really feel depressed any more because of them. I see life for what it is. A period of consciousness. Death being the end of that.
If you're on any medication you should tell us.
Shrooms aren't offering you any benefit from the looks of things so stop taking them. You need to exercise. Start smashing some weights, do some running and try and get laid.
Meditation is great too. I do mine with Matcha Tea
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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