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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506015 - 08/03/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wasn't it Obama who caused the last government shut down because of his socialist OBAMACARE...



No, that was Ted Cruz.


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: spock]
    #23506020 - 08/03/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Level of education is also a factor. So non-gay white, lesser educated males tend to be the biggest haters of Hillary.

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Yupp us uneducated southern cousin fuckers hate them damn gays and blacks! LMAO bro!!! If you can't have a debate about things without calling names and making crazy statements, then I'm sorry for you.

To Me it sounds like your just uninformed.


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: qman]
    #23506025 - 08/03/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So if something happens to Obama that YOU PERCEIVE that is different from others in similar circumstances, your first instinct is to claim racism?  It couldn't be any other possibility like "Washington gridlock"?



We've overcome gridlock before through compromise.  I'm asking why Congress won't compromise with Obama?

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It has to be the racist WHITE members of Congress, or is it just white republicans? 



White republicans.

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Wouldn't a person that claims racism without any valid reasons or proof the real actually racist?



Again, you tell me why else?


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506043 - 08/03/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm loving Hilary more and more each time Trump opens his mouth.


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23506042 - 08/03/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wasn't it Obama who caused the last government shut down because of his socialist OBAMACARE...



No, that was Ted Cruz.




caused the last government shut down because of his socialist OBAMACARE...

He caused it with his health reform! cruise just lead the fight against the tyranny


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506050 - 08/03/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Level of education is also a factor. So non-gay white, lesser educated males tend to be the biggest haters of Hillary.

Peace
Spock




Yupp us uneducated southern cousin fuckers hate them damn gays and blacks! LMAO bro!!! If you can't have a debate about things without calling names and making crazy statements, then I'm sorry for you.

To Me it sounds like your just uninformed.



Calling names? Did you read the title of this thread? There isn't much "debate" I stated fact. You can(have) come to your own conclusion.

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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Le_Canard]
    #23506054 - 08/03/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm loving Hilary more and more each time Trump opens his mouth.




So you don't mind the lies, dead body trails, corruption, abuse of power, dealing with nefarious characters and special interest groups to self enrich?


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: spock]
    #23506069 - 08/03/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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spock said:
Level of education is also a factor. So non-gay white, lesser educated males tend to be the biggest haters of Hillary.

Peace
Spock




Yupp us uneducated southern cousin fuckers hate them damn gays and blacks! LMAO bro!!! If you can't have a debate about things without calling names and making crazy statements, then I'm sorry for you.

To Me it sounds like your just uninformed.



Calling names? Did you read the title of this thread? There isn't much "debate" I stated fact. You can(have) come to your own conclusion.

Peace
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Touche. I get carried away


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506090 - 08/03/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I will say that non gay white males like myself don't just hate Hilary because we are non gay white males.


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23506091 - 08/03/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wasn't it Obama who caused the last government shut down because of his socialist OBAMACARE...



No, that was Ted Cruz.




Actually, there is a perfect example of Obamas unwillingness to work with congress, he wouldn't negotiate any part of the ACA, which led to the shutdown

O knew he could shut down the government and his sychophant press would blame GOP regardless, it's a sick game he played and it only hurt taxpayers and many Americans, that's how little Obumble cares about anyone but himself


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23506098 - 08/03/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So if something happens to Obama that YOU PERCEIVE that is different from others in similar circumstances, your first instinct is to claim racism?  It couldn't be any other possibility like "Washington gridlock"?



We've overcome gridlock before through compromise.  I'm asking why Congress won't compromise with Obama?

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It has to be the racist WHITE members of Congress, or is it just white republicans? 



White republicans.

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Wouldn't a person that claims racism without any valid reasons or proof the real actually racist?



Again, you tell me why else?




So the default answer is racism?  I have to say this type of reasoning is not characteristic of you at all, why such a radical theory to offer as an explanation to something you're not even sure about?

You're going down a very deep hole on this one, I'm surprised you think like this, you know it doesn't you make any better than the accused. :shrug:

Washington is governed by money not race, I thought you already understood that fact.


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506123 - 08/03/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, noone seems to address the points that I make, though people do like to quote me. Shiny. Let's toss another fact out there for shits and giggles, focused on race. Not even gonna bother adding a point this time, come up with your own.

America, currently, is 63.7% White, 16.3% Hispanic/Latino, 12.2% Black, 4.7% Asian, and the rest is Native American or mixed. The last RNC was 94% white, 5% Hispanic/Latino, and 1% Black. The last DNC was 50% White, 25% Black, 16% Hispanic/Latino, and 9% Asian/Native/Other.

Which party better reflects the demographics (and, by likely extension, ideals) of the United States?


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Kryptos]
    #23506157 - 08/03/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, noone seems to address the points that I make, though people do like to quote me. Shiny. Let's toss another fact out there for shits and giggles, focused on race. Not even gonna bother adding a point this time, come up with your own.

America, currently, is 63.7% White, 16.3% Hispanic/Latino, 12.2% Black, 4.7% Asian, and the rest is Native American or mixed. The last RNC was 94% white, 5% Hispanic/Latino, and 1% Black. The last DNC was 50% White, 25% Black, 16% Hispanic/Latino, and 9% Asian/Native/Other.

Which party better reflects the demographics (and, by likely extension, ideals) of the United States?




What do you mean by "the last DNC was 50% White, 25% black..."?


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: qman]
    #23506171 - 08/03/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that was self explanatory. The last DNC, held in Philly, July 25-28 2016 (last week), had a demographic layout which was "50% white, 25% black..."


Edited by Kryptos (08/03/16 03:34 PM)


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Kryptos]
    #23506177 - 08/03/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

America, currently, is 63.7% White, 16.3% Hispanic/Latino, 12.2% Black, 4.7% Asian, and the rest is Native American or mixed. The last RNC was 94% white, 5% Hispanic/Latino, and 1% Black. The last DNC was 50% White, 25% Black, 16% Hispanic/Latino, and 9% Asian/Native/Other.

Which party better reflects the demographics (and, by likely extension, ideals) of the United States?





Could you add a reliable source please? I think your numbers are a little off just a little. But you have a valid point!
Common sense would say the Democratic party being more racially diverse would make America more equal and fair, but why are we more divided than we have been in decades? Being we have had a black president for the last 8 years?


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506195 - 08/03/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why since 2012 has the Hispanic vote estimated to raise 30% during this year's election? Do you think they are just now going to go vote and they just didn't care before? This is going to be the most ethnically and racially diverse election in history..... That's fishy


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506203 - 08/03/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's because people that gain money and power from the race war, democrats, do not want the division to end, if it ends, so does their stranglehold on the minority communities. Divisive politics keep the the democrats in power and wealthy


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23506207 - 08/03/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why since 2012 has the Hispanic vote estimated to raise 30% during this year's election? Do you think they are just now going to go vote and they just didn't care before? This is going to be the most ethnically and racially diverse election in history..... That's fishy




Many states, blue states, have begun issuing drivers licenses to illegals, coincidentally, everyone with a drivers license is automatically registered to vote...


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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23506211 - 08/03/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It's because people that gain money and power from the race war, democrats, do not want the division to end, if it ends, so does their stranglehold on the minority communities. Divisive politics keep the the democrats in power and wealthy




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Re: Why non-gay white males hate Hillary [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23506212 - 08/03/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Source for demographics of the US: 2010 census. Source for demographics of the RNC/DNC: Vox and Fusion, links here:
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/29/12295830/republican-democratic-delegates-diversity-nonwhite
http://fusion.net/story/330193/dnc-rnc-women-people-of-color-numbers/

Anyway, speaking of equality: This isn't a side effect of race. this is a side effect of the division of party politics over the last several years. See:
http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/section-1-growing-ideological-consistency/pp-2014-06-12-polarization-1-01/

Just because we have a black president, doesn't mean we're over this whole racism thing (see, BLM). Republican and democrat ideologies have been steadily drifting towards the fringes over the last decade, leading to less compromise and more "take my ball and go home".

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It's because people that gain money and power from the race war, democrats, do not want the division to end, if it ends, so does their stranglehold on the minority communities. Divisive politics keep the the democrats in power and wealthy




Here is an example of taking their ball and going home. I'm not saying that only republicans are doing it, both sides blame the other for drifting toward the extremes. My demographic argument is simply that the republicans seem to have drifted right back into the pre-civil rights movement extreme.


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