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OfflineBuddhaGe
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Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure.
    #23495907 - 07/31/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hello shroomers.

Actual question is at the end of the post. Before that is a bit of backstory.

I think this is my first post but I am not sure. I've been reading and searching a lot through shroomery (mainly through google because I thing google is more effective than forum search engine).

I've got Golden Teachers print.
Made syringe with distilled water.

I don't have PC so I went with boiling popcorn. Everything else was kind of sanitary. I wiped the hell out of things with alcohol and used ghetto cardboard glovebox.

I did not even fractional sterilize popcorn, just boiled for 2 or 3 hrs, I just had heavy stuff on top of the pot so that pressure would build up and temperature would rise higher, it seemed to work well. Steam was not just escaping but it was directed downwards with quite a strength due to the shape of the pot head and strength of that pressure.

I had too much moisture and it was like lumps of water on the bottom of the jars. Despite the water, only 1 of 6 of the pint jars jar was contammed(cobweb, on the top grains which were not watery). It still colonized partially and I dunk it in a place where fresh cow dung flows off :laugh:. The place is always moist and it gets decent amount of fresh cow manure. I dunked it where it was moist and not wet, and had some shade. Not sure if it will work out.

Apart from that I experimented with different kinds of outdoor places/substrates. I have yet to find out if they will work out.

I spawned 2 colonized pint cakes outdoors at 4 places as of now. Mainly with aged(a year old?) unpasteurized cow manure sandwich and net against critters.

The process was as following:
I crumbled the colonized(s or z?) popcorn first and put them inside of the same jars.
Then I filled up jars with water while I prepared the beds. They were dunk like that for like 1.5 - 2.5 hrs because I was doing other stuff along preparing the beds.
I thought dunking would help recover and colonize faster as it was in the case of indoor grow logs that I read.

So this is the backstory and this is my current situation. I will provide updates on behalf of the end results.

The question is the following:
I have a 1.5 meters (around 5 feet) high and same the same diameter pile of cow manure where all the fresh cow manure was dunked not long ago for aging purpose to use it as a fertilizer.

The pile is between citrus trees and it gets some shade. At the bottom of one of the ends of the pile there is a tall grass which also provides a shade and moisture. I noticed that manure was kind of fluffy (aerated-wise) and not fresh there.
So I crumbled the cake there and covered with some other manure of same kind( not fresh and easily crumbled) then I leaned the grass over it so that it retains a bit of moisture.

The region itself where this is happening is also humid with average humidity of nearly 80 percent. And gets rainfall at least once a week.


I was wondering what would happen.
Would mycelium spread to the whole pile of dung or would it not colonize at all. Would it fruit only locally or....?

What are your thoughts about this? Or anything else that I did? Any opinions are appreciated.

The post looks long on my phone and I am not sure if anyone would read it. Thanks anyways.


Edited by BuddhaGe (07/31/16 11:12 PM)


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: BuddhaGe]
    #23495936 - 07/31/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The mycelium would at least try to colonize the manure in those conditions :thumbup:


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: BuddhaGe]
    #23495948 - 07/31/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: impatientguy]
    #23495952 - 07/31/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My first question is why you would use popcorn?

Popcorn is quite literally the worst spawn you can use because of contamination levels as well as reduced yields in comparison to almost ANY other grain used in mushroom cultivation.

My second question is why are you attempting this outdoor adventure? Why not spend time cultivating indoors with a tek that has been proven to work effectively?

If you are going to cultivate outdoors, why not use an outdoor tek - likes Moe's? Etc?

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impatientguy said:
The mycelium would at least try to colonize the manure in those conditions :thumbup:




No argument there... I think the conditions would be right, but I think OP's efforts could be redirected into a tek with more results and a higher likelihood of success.


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: morty422]
    #23495960 - 07/31/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:

No argument there... I think the conditions would be right, but I think OP's efforts could be redirected into a tek with more results and a higher likelihood of success.




True that man.


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: impatientguy]
    #23497003 - 07/31/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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impatientguy said:
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morty422 said:

No argument there... I think the conditions would be right, but I think OP's efforts could be redirected into a tek with more results and a higher likelihood of success.




True that man.




Just saw your Rick and Morty quote! Lmao

Now you know where my username is from... hehe


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: morty422]
    #23497093 - 07/31/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Haha it's the funniest cartoon I've ever seen!


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Re: Spawning popcorn spawn to giant(1.5 meters, 5 feet) pile of cow manure. [Re: impatientguy]
    #23497349 - 07/31/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for replies. I edited the post on behalf of vendor listed there. My bad.
I won't quote you as I'm posting with mobile which I am not really comfortable with so I can't ctrl + z and recover stuff in case I acccidentally remive some of it or touch some links.


The reason I am doing it outdoors is that I don't want to have an illegal substance growing indoors and I thought my climate would work for outdoors.

There is not much of magic mushroom culture in my country, people don't really know about it, so outdoors would be perfectly stealthy for my environment.

As of choosing popcorn as substrate, I wanted to use BRF but neither BRF, nor vermiculite is available here.(at least I could not find them)
So I tried popcorn as there were teks/videos for popcorn without PC and also I've found that some people really love it ( notably RR). Also I thought of it as less advanced/more contam-resistant than wbs, rye, etc.

As of TEK, I've read all TEK s I've found and also suggestions in posts. I just tried to understand fundamentals from them so that I'd get some sense of what would work and why. The only thing I did differently is that for 2 of 4 patches I did not use bottom casing layer as when I found what's the difference between straw and hay I was not sure if they use those terms corrrectly in my country, they call corn stems straw and everything else hay. So I just discarded them as the region is humid and I thought It would not dry out easily, also that  watering/rainfall would also work.

Also recent days are more rainy and I thought It would promote growth while coming days after them which are relatively dry would promote fruiting.
BTW the top is very thin layer of manure with some grass clipping on top of it.


As  I don't really worry about failure I made a lot of assumptions that might not work as I have no experience.

That's why I I'm asking for thoughts and opinions.


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