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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23495423 - 07/31/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I never knew it was alot of bad info I just had read it for certain things sorry ... but the 24 hour thing isn't good well from what I've seen all the time 12/12 light cycle is what works best but I've seen people do all kinds of stuff or so they say but I'd stick to the 12/12 cycle


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23495431 - 07/31/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

12/12 is good usually I get like 18/6 or something like that happening 24 hours of light is better than 24 hours of dark.

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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23495507 - 07/31/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know that many plants can thrive in 24 hour light . Why not mycellium? What studies have been done to disprove this? - thanks for your contributions and through provoking comments everyone :laugh:


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23495601 - 07/31/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Because then there is no rhythm.  A 24 hour cycle of consistent change, particularly 12/12 is what establishes the circadian rhythm and helps move everything along.  Unchanging stimulus isn't really something any living thing likes.


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23496027 - 07/31/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's what I'm talking about, What is the proof that 24 hours straight is harmful? I'd like to read about studies that have been done with myc in particular in a controlled environment start to finish.

It seems like something that would have a lot of variables and would be hard to test because of that, but you should  still be able to come to some sort of generalization of impact on growth at least. 

Also I've got another question. What is the importance of an SAB when adding the colonized WBS to the sub? I've seen videos of people doing it in an open room with no gloves? I'm probably missing some huge basic here- is myc resistant once colonized?


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496039 - 07/31/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you dont use a sab when spawning...pointless:thumbup:


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496045 - 07/31/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you dont need to use SAB when your spawning.. just when you inoculate.


and inoc just told you, that if you did light 24/hours then it would generate no rhythm. myc/mushrooms have a circadian rhythm, similar to humans. im sure the way that was found out was through some extensive testing. i guess if you wanted to test it, you could get some isolates and do multiple tubs of each, and give them all the exact same conditions, etc, just changing their light cycles.


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23496061 - 07/31/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, I'm overwhelmed with the helpful community here.
Would you guys recommend any books? / must reads?


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23496068 - 07/31/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As long as your spawn is clean and you pasteurize correctly open air is fine people will ask similar questions and people say you can fart, sneeze, cough whatever into it haha if you get contams before the first flush it's cause your spawn was dirty or didn't pasteurize properly... the mushroom cultivator from Mark stentz I believe is his name I heard is a great one I still need to buy it tho


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496074 - 07/31/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow, I'm overwhelmed with the helpful community here.
Would you guys recommend any books? / must reads?





this

just make sure the threads are newer than 3-5 years, for the most part.

oh and all those links in Trusted Cultivator's sig. and pretty much every other TC, and experienced cultivators's sigs. like Pasty's.


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23496084 - 07/31/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks everyone! Would it be within board guidlines to keep this thread as a journal or should I make a new one ? I'm a sensitive bitch I'm not tryna get flamed on. :rasta:


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496095 - 07/31/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i dont see why not. you could just go to the bottom of the screen and hit "toggle favorite" and it will be linked on a list of your favorite threads, when you go to "account" at the top left of the page.


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23496119 - 07/31/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Many thanks ! You guys are seriously fantastic :mushroom2:


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496222 - 07/31/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I'm a sensitive bitch I'm not tryna get flamed on. :rasta:



If this is the case, then maybe ease up on stuff like

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What is the proof that 24 hours straight is harmful?

It seems like something that would have a lot of variables and would be hard to test because of that, but you should  still be able to come to some sort of generalization of impact on growth at least. 

Also I've got another question. What is the importance of an SAB when adding the colonized WBS to the sub? I've seen videos of people doing it in an open room with no gloves? I'm probably missing some huge basic here- is myc resistant once colonized?





Don't ask for damnable proof of one thing that was just explained, and then go on to ask a question that demonstrates that you don't really have any idea what you're talking about.  There is no "harm" to 24 hours of light.  There is just no benefit vs having a cycle that establishes the circadian rhythm.  You won't find a whole lot of up to date documentation about something like this that's illegal in most countries, which is why an experience-based forum is the place to learn what actually works, in the most practical sense.  People who have read tons of books on mushrooms are growing a lot worse than folks like me who just picked it all up here, because they're often abiding by outdated information and shit that works against your success rate, like incubating at 86F, colonizing in the dark, 95% humidity, etc.

A book could outline very specific very in depth details about what mushrooms want but it doesn't matter how detailed it is if it's just plain counterproductive.


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23496260 - 07/31/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe take me less seriously. :tongue:
I've already stated that I have no clue what I'm doing here, that statement about me being sensitive was aimed more towards mistakes made in setting up this post/ accidental self bumps on a post in which I could have taken the time to find information on my own for a lot of things.

Thanks for your concern though, I do appreciate your help.

Also, when asking for "proof" that 24 hours is "bad", I neglected to figure out that you can filter post searches to encompass only those created by top contributors - so I was really asking for a link to the best possible content about light cycles - my tower is down right now so I'm using the website from a little phone screen.


Thanks again for your help friend :rasta:


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23496296 - 07/31/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also obviously I've got communication issues sadly it's due to some chronic bullshit/ head injuries so even making this post in the first place took some courage/headache.- thanks for trying to decipher my questions and taking the  time to answer


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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Terpfreak] * 1
    #23496299 - 07/31/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't mind inoc he's just crankey. We see a lot of BS here, people who don't wanna listen, etc. To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23496317 - 07/31/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nono , no offense taken- I completely understand where he's coming from in trying to understand me.

  I've been recovering from some pretty bad ptsd and have been neglecting my social life so I've kinda forgotten how to communicate :frown: I speak in memes now. There's no going back :grin:

Edit:  fuck. I know now that this is bad- Using coffee filters for the jars over the lids with tyvek. But will the following effect humidity and co2 buildup? There's one hole for GE and one for innoc- the only thing covering the innoc port Is two coffee filters? Should I cover that with tape or is it too late? The Tek I was following at the time didn't mention anything but coffee filters so I disregarded it.


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