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Stone vs cube effect
    #23494287 - 07/31/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,

I am sure that this may have been mentioned before to some extent, but both the scerlotia producers and cubes should have pretty much the same active ingredients in them, psylocybin and psilocin, but I have heard that they can have different effects?

Are there any different alkaloids in them that may result in different levels of nausea or visual effects or is this just psychosomatic and based on the individuals biases and opinions?

For example, some have said that Poo growers have a cleaner trip than cubes, yet they still have the same ingredients?

Thanks for your thoughts,


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Re: Stone vs cube effect [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23494305 - 07/31/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I mean there are definitely more alkaloids in all the mushroom species than just psilocin psilocybin. Most don't have a lot of science behind them. There is something besides psilocybin and psilocybin that does have science,mots called baeocystin. As for the subjective differences between truffles and cubes, there's a lot of info on here about that and it's easily source able through the search function. My experience is that truffles aren't as in your face and more mellow.


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Re: Stone vs cube effect [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23494413 - 07/31/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There is the remote possibility that baeocystin and/or norbaeocystin might be active. I'm not a proponent of the theory, but I think it's not a bad theory. I have my doubts, personally, but on the other hand sometimes it's hard to decide. I have days where I think maybe they are active, and I have days when I think they're not.

The only thing that should really be different is potency. All psilocybin mushrooms have psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin, and norbaeocystin. Psilocin is the only known active ingredient, and not for a lack of looking.

In short, I'd say there's a 99% chance that they have the exact same active chemical and only differ in potency and not in effects. However, there is a chance that that 1% has a real chance of being true IMO.


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Re: Stone vs cube effect [Re: nooneman]
    #23494445 - 07/31/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh i thought baeocystin was indeed active. I always attributed my subjective differences between fresh cubes vs dried  to the baeo which isn't really there dried. Plus the higher psilocybin content in fresh cubes.

Meant higher psilocin content.*


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