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First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba
#23493964 - 07/30/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is actually my 2nd grow -- my first is an oyster mushroom pf tek for the children , which I'm still working to iron out (if you want to help me with my questions about it the thread is here).
This one is a Corumba strain. I knocked up 14 PF Tek jars with the syringe, and they all colonized *really* well, with no apparent contams.
Ten of them I set up in a SGFC. I double-stacked them with verm underneath, in between and on top. The room temp is about 80-85°F, and I have a 12 hr on/off cycle CFL light close by, plus ambient sunlight from a nearby window. I've been misting & fanning 5-6 times a day.
This is 5 days since seating them in the SGFC. I see 2 pins and they've been there for about 2 days now. Is the myc looking ok around the pins? I will say, every time I lift the lid the smell inside is sweetly aromatic -- quite pleasant, like being deep in the woods by a bubbling brook. I hope that's what the myc is supposed to smell like. 
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23494004 - 07/30/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like you may need more FAE
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Moabfighter]
#23494106 - 07/30/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks. Can you explain what you are looking at to come to that conclusion? ... so I can learn to assess it myself as well?
Also, could I set up a low-speed fan blowing in the room as a first step to increase FAE? I thought the SGFC design would take care of giving me the right level. I have made it to spec... 1/4" holes, 2" apart, on all 6 sides. The chamber is suspended on 4 jars with enough airspace underneath, and the whole thing is at table height.
With appreciation...
Edited by Irkles (07/30/16 11:31 PM)
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23494166 - 07/30/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irkles said: Thanks. Can you explain what you are looking at to come to that conclusion? ... so I can learn to assess it myself as well?
Also, could I set up a low-speed fan blowing in the room as a first step to increase FAE? I thought the SGFC design would take care of giving me the right level. I have made it to spec... 1/4" holes, 2" apart, on all 6 sides. The chamber is suspended on 4 jars with enough airspace underneath, and the whole thing is at table height.
With appreciation...
Do you have a pic of your SGFC in operation? Also, did you dunk & roll your cakes after birthing. I don't see verm so I'm going to say no to the roll part.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23494200 - 07/31/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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To me it looks like that is just knotting up. It might need more FAE....,Might....yes a low blowing desk fan in the room is a useful tool sometimes.
I would guess that he guess more FAE needed because sometimes the mycelium will look fuzzy or look like its literally reaching into the air....but I think your cake is just knotting up ready to flush.
It does look a little wet, unless you just misted, wait until it looks dry to mist again.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23494972 - 07/31/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a pic of the SGFC.

And another one:

I dunked the cakes for 24 hours after birthing. I only put verm in layers below, between and above the stacked cakes. No rolling, as you saw.
To answer Mycologist217, I had just misted, hence the beaded, damp look. If it still looks like it is damp, I generally don't mist the cakes, just the perlite next to them.
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KenInVic said: Do you have a pic of your SGFC in operation? Also, did you dunk & roll your cakes after birthing. I don't see verm so I'm going to say no to the roll part.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23495102 - 07/31/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irkles said: Here's a pic of the SGFC. ...
I dunked the cakes for 24 hours after birthing. I only put verm in layers below, between and above the stacked cakes. No rolling, as you saw.
To answer Mycologist217, I had just misted, hence the beaded, damp look. If it still looks like it is damp, I generally don't mist the cakes, just the perlite next to them.
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KenInVic said: Do you have a pic of your SGFC in operation? Also, did you dunk & roll your cakes after birthing. I don't see verm so I'm going to say no to the roll part.
Okay. You should have rolled the dunked cakes in verm completely and let the cake kind of assimilate it (no misting for 24 hrs or better) to lock in the verm. It is critical to providing the surface humidity your cakes will want.
Also, is there a monster in the other end of the SGFC? Spread those cakes out so they all get air flow. Use all the room you have, it's there for a reason. The more fresh air you get to all surface of the cake, other than the bottom sitting on foil, the more pinning surface you have.
The SGFC looks up to spec. Get these cakes a little more spread out so they all get airflow and unstack them.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23495193 - 07/31/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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try to get the sgfc away from the walls, middle of the room is perfect, dont use a fan they fuck sgfcs up, next time roll your cakes in verm and follow www.mushroomvideos.com 1-4 to the t.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: spacechildo]
#23495307 - 07/31/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: try to get the sgfc away from the walls, middle of the room is perfect, dont use a fan they fuck sgfcs up, next time roll your cakes in verm and follow www.mushroomvideos.com 1-4 to the t.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23495509 - 07/31/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had seen cakes that were double-stacked, no verm on the sides somewhere on shroomery, and it looked cool. 
Can I still roll them, mid flush? (It's been 5 days since I took them out of their dunk and set them up.) I'd like to pick 'em up one by one, roll them in dry verm, & re-seat them -- spaced out this time -- in the chamber?
I can try to be really gentle with the 2 that have pins coming out of them; or just leave those two be except for reseating them.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23495607 - 07/31/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Double stack/no verm is not cool, it's far from optimal for them. Don't even think or worry about what looks cool, especially if stuff like that is what jumps out at you.
It's a gamble if you roll now, best to do ASAP after birthing so fewer contaminants will have landed between the verm and the cake.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23495737 - 07/31/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK. Thanks! I'll just keep an eye on them rather than messing it up more this time... but try to do better when I'm ready for the 2nd flush (if there's even a 1st flush!)
Also, fan or no fan in the room? I've gotten mixed advice in the thread here. Can a TC weigh in on this?
~ Irkles
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23495747 - 07/31/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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search engine; sgfc fans, 3-4yrs old, tick tc box, get all the tc's you want to answer you.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: spacechildo]
#23495749 - 07/31/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If only I had the authority to weigh in on a setup for cakes... if only..
No fan.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23495784 - 07/31/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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only TC's understand the true mystery that is the function of the sgfc!
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23495917 - 07/31/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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No insult intended, Inocuole. Someone else above had suggested to use a small fan so I wanted to be sure. I will def use the search engine as well for future Qs.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23495923 - 07/31/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well now you and I and everyone else all know that guy doesn't know about cakes and SGFCs and shouldn't give advice on them until he does. 
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
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SpitballJedi said: Running a fan in the room with your SGFC will also disrupt the natural currents and dry everything out too fast.
Because of the constant FAE, your cakes will dry out if not misted regularly.
TC stamp and all.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23496015 - 07/31/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there a way to tell who's TC? I have seen references to a "stripe", a "stamp" and a "tag" for TCs. Same thing, I am guessing? But where is it? When I look at your post, for example, this is all I see in the left margin:

Which of these is a TC stamp - or is it not showing for some reason on my account?
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23496044 - 07/31/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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press inocuoles link and look at the "tag" saying trusted cultivator under spitballjedi's avatar,location etc.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: spacechildo]
#23496236 - 07/31/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nobody in here is a TC so yeah you might have trouble spotting it. There's no button to summon them either. Hell, some of them, you'd be better off not hearing their opinion.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23496436 - 07/31/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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.running a small fan in the room where my SGFCs were never really fucked them up, I know consensus is swaying on fans right now...do we use them for monotubs? PF tek? Everyone's home environment is unique so everyone's needs are different....I always had excellent cakes running a fan in the room:
  
I will say I only did the of tek 3 times before moving to monotubs, so I don't have a great basis, but in the 100 or so cakes I did, I never regretted having a low blowing fan in the room.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23496452 - 07/31/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK. I got it about the TC tag finally! Thanks guys.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23496491 - 07/31/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fans are useless. A small fan does what no fan does with the added power on your electrical bill! A normal fan fucks up a sgfc.
I haven't had a fan running in my grow room for a few years now, and a lot of the time my door is closed too. For tubs adjust the poly for Fae. Oftentimes I pull out the top holes poly. For sgfc, hand rake/fluff the perlite, poke out the bottom holes, elevate it higher, crack a window, etc.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Mad Season]
#23496937 - 07/31/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fahtster used to have some spectacular results stacking cakes and keeping them quite close to each other. It looks like his old pictures are gone, though.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6385183#Post6385183
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Mad River]
#23497407 - 08/01/16 12:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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He rolled them in verm probably though right?
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Inocuole]
#23499169 - 08/01/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a little update. I spaced them out. I'm continuing to mist only when dry. Hopefully it's not too much water and not too little either.
The little guy's growing up fast here.


And little pins are forming (still "primordia"?)

How would I know when the big one is ready to harvest? Pick them as they get ready, not wait for all of them to be ready all at once, right?
Are there any other tips you have here? Is the texture & surface on the mushrooms looking alright for this stage?
This is not only my first time growing shrooms... but my first time seeing one in person and (hopefully soon) to try one myself. So I'm pretty excited!
Thanks guys! ~ Irkles
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23499432 - 08/01/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Get those cakes unstacked and you will gain 5 more pinning surfaces for mushrooms to grow out of.
The big one you can pick when it's ready, usually shortly after the veil breaks unless you want a larger cap for spore printing.
Good luck.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23499476 - 08/01/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! i'm going to go do that right away. I appreciate all the help to this noob
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23499706 - 08/01/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let the notion that it appears all your pins are coming in from the base of the cakes and on the cased tops, where the microclimate is best....go ahead and let that be case evidence for dunking AND rolling
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Mycologist217]
#23520029 - 08/07/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How's it going?
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Mad River]
#23526251 - 08/09/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did unstack them, and did my best to keep the moisture content high overall by frequent misting.
All in all I got a flush that continued on for about 3-4 days. I tried to pick groups of shrooms as soon as their veils tore. The total harvest for 10 BRF cakes in this flush was 257 g (wet). I think it's about 25-26 g dry.
So not great but being my first attempt at this I feel I learned a *lot*. Next time I may try to go BRF cakes to tray or monotub.
Also (this may be for another thread), but I did my first trip, using the very first mushroom I picked from this grow. That was yesterday - also my first shroom, and first psychedelic, experience ever.
It was 1.5 g dry, and led to a level 2 to 3 trip. Deep into it I felt I was communing with an ancient, and non-human, intelligence. It was peaceful and playful at the same time.
I'm worried because I want to go back and do it again, soon, and at a higher dose. I don't want to see myself as getting addicted to these. I just want the spiritual insights. I hope this is something others can relate to...
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23526269 - 08/09/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irkles said: I did unstack them, and did my best to keep the moisture content high overall by frequent misting.
All in all I got a flush that continued on for about 3-4 days. I tried to pick groups of shrooms as soon as their veils tore. The total harvest for 10 BRF cakes in this flush was 257 g (wet). I think it's about 25-26 g dry.
So not great but being my first attempt at this I feel I learned a *lot*. Next time I may try to go BRF cakes to tray or monotub.
Also (this may be for another thread), but I did my first trip, using the very first mushroom I picked from this grow. That was yesterday - also my first shroom, and first psychedelic, experience ever.
It was 1.5 g dry, and led to a level 2 to 3 trip. Deep into it I felt I was communing with an ancient, and non-human, intelligence. It was peaceful and playful at the same time.
I'm worried because I want to go back and do it again, soon, and at a higher dose. I don't want to see myself as getting addicted to these. I just want the spiritual insights. I hope this is something others can relate to...
Did you remember to dunk the cakes and go for a second flush?
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23526327 - 08/09/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did dunk & set them up for a second flush (no rolling this time). And a couple of small shrooms are coming up out of three cakes. The others aren't fruiting yet.
But I'm going to have to get rid of all this by the end of the week due to issues with people in my home environment.. so I won't get to see the 2nd flush through but may get to pick 20 g wet or so of shrooms before the cakes get tossed into the compost pile out back.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: Irkles]
#23526355 - 08/09/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irkles said: I did dunk & set them up for a second flush (no rolling this time). And a couple of small shrooms are coming up out of three cakes. The others aren't fruiting yet.
But I'm going to have to get rid of all this by the end of the week due to issues with people in my home environment.. so I won't get to see the 2nd flush through but may get to pick 20 g wet or so of shrooms before the cakes get tossed into the compost pile out back.
Good luck with that. Hope you get things sorted out so you can get back into the hobby.
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Re: First PF Tek grow with Psy Cubensis / Corumba [Re: KenInVic]
#23526404 - 08/09/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks man.. and thanks for your help. I've got enough for several trips and for a couple of friends who are interested in trying. We are all shroom virgins btw. Well not me anymore I guess, lol.
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