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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Anonymous

can God...
    #2347749 - 02/17/04 09:44 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

make a 4 sided triangle?

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OfflineSpecialEd
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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2347751 - 02/17/04 09:45 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

NO!

four sides = four angles

I don't think God cares much about semantics though.


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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2347758 - 02/17/04 09:48 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

He tried to make a perfect mate for man. We all know how that turned out.

*cue frog*


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Re: can God... [Re: Swami]
    #2347863 - 02/17/04 10:10 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, He made something better...WOMAN!!!

*curtsies*


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Re: can God... [Re: Frog]
    #2348270 - 02/17/04 11:53 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i think the answer to that question is fairly simple: yes. a being with infinite power operates outside of paradox. this and that and that and that, no if this than that.


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Re: can God... [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2348278 - 02/17/04 11:57 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

By definition, a triangle is three sided polygon. The sum of its interior angles = 180 degrees. No matter how powerful a being is, they cannot make a triangle with four sides. The sum of it's angles would be > 180, not to mention the nominal incongruency.


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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2348383 - 02/18/04 12:49 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

god already made a four sided triangle... it's called a square

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Re: can God... [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2349250 - 02/18/04 08:35 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

so then we are talking about the agreements we make with ideas.

i guess an question would be, can God change our minds and make us believe a square is a triangle.


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Re: can God... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2349311 - 02/18/04 09:01 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kaiowas said:
so then we are talking about the agreements we make with ideas.

i guess an question would be, can God change our minds and make us believe a square is a triangle.




You got it  :eyemouth:


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Anonymous

Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349389 - 02/18/04 09:27 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i'm not asking if God can redefine terms, but if He can make an actual triangle with 4 sides. this is one of those questions that leads to other questions. it's ponderin' time.

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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349406 - 02/18/04 09:31 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

You don't got it hehe
A triangle is a word, a metaphor.


Bruce Almighty might be a good movie to watch


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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349432 - 02/18/04 09:36 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

a triangle doesn't exist except for the fact that in our heads we were told it was a polygon who has three sides and has three angles that add up to 180 degrees.  you are asking for a 4 sided triangle here, which is against the definition of terms we have in our heads.

ok god made a triangle with 4 sides, but this will only matter to us here!!!  if we saw something with four sides, we could say it's a sqaure, a rectangle, rhombus even :wink:??? see what I'm saying? 

if I saw something with five sides to it (a 2d object), I would automatically think it was some sort of pentagon.  the only thing that would change this is if my idea of a triangle would fit with what god just showed me.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Anonymous

Re: can God... [Re: NariusFractal]
    #2349437 - 02/18/04 09:37 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yes, but it is also a real concept that transcends the language we use to describe it.

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Re: can God... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2349444 - 02/18/04 09:38 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

so essentially, no, God cannot make a 4-sided triangle?

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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349461 - 02/18/04 09:41 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

"yes, but it is also a real concept that transcends the language we use to describe it."

a concept is a general notion or an idea. it's an idea of something formed by mentally combining all it's characteristics or particulars. it's directly conceived of intuited object of thought.

so a concept is only "real" if we agree in our minds that it is so.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349467 - 02/18/04 09:43 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

In order for God to do that, I'm sure he'd have to create some sort of prism in another dimension that allows more flexability for geometric structures; then I believe he would have to link our dimension with that one revealing a 3D image of a certain aspect of the object has created.

I believe if God decided to make a 4 sided triangle he could.


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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349468 - 02/18/04 09:43 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

the essence of a triangle is that it has 3 sides and that all interior angels add up to 180 degrees. this essence is defined by our brains.

to change what a triangle is, thus changing it's essence, the idea would have to be changed.

so before jumping to conlcusions, can god change our minds?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Anonymous

Re: can God... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2349484 - 02/18/04 09:46 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

here's another one:

let's say that there is a panel. can God make it so that it is simultaneously black (not white) and also white at the same time?

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Anonymous

Re: can God... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2349489 - 02/18/04 09:48 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

can God create a 2 dimensional figure with 4 sides but no more than 3 interior angles?

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Re: can God... [Re: ]
    #2349495 - 02/18/04 09:49 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

How do you know he doesnt ?


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