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3 Day Dunk Pinset * 1
    #23493483 - 07/30/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I left a cake dunked for 3 days to experiment.

The result, as you'd expect was a heavier cake.

I was concerned about over-hydration and questioned whether I had compromised the potential fruit growth.

This however, is the resulting pinset which marks my best in the 4 years I've done BRF cakes:




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72g 1st Flush






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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23493491 - 07/30/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice pinset. I'm not convinced that the 3 day dunk is responsible. Still tho a nice cake.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493502 - 07/30/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting experiment. You should do a side-by-side comparison of like 4 that get dunked regularly and 4 that get dunked the 3 days (or something along those lines)


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493521 - 07/30/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Nice pinset. I'm not convinced that the 3 day dunk is responsible. Still tho a nice cake.





To be honest, it was half intentional since my attention was on other things so thought I'd just keep it dunked.

There's another two which were submerged for the same duration which show no pins yet, but the cake shown pinned like that overnight so the other cakes may hopefully follow the same course and give greater weight to claiming that the 3 day was perhaps a key factor.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23493533 - 07/30/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Interesting experiment. You should do a side-by-side comparison of like 4 that get dunked regularly and 4 that get dunked the 3 days (or something along those lines)




I've got another two cakes as mentioned above which were also subjected to the 3 day dunk.

I've also got 1 day dunk cakes in the fruiting chamber but they are on their second flush unfortunately.

I'll possibly try something similar next batch of cakes. :thumbup:


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23493538 - 07/30/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Try running it with a controlled side by side. Use a clone or isolate. I would definitely watch that one with interest.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493546 - 07/30/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, nice fucking cake dude :thumbup:


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493558 - 07/30/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Try running it with a controlled side by side. Use a clone or isolate. I would definitely watch that one with interest.




I'll be taking prints so will do a clone next batch.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23493562 - 07/30/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, nice fucking cake dude :thumbup:




Thanks. It's good when a worry turns into a reward. :laugh:


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23493572 - 07/30/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Try running it with a controlled side by side. Use a clone or isolate. I would definitely watch that one with interest.




I'll be taking prints so will do a clone next batch.




Forget prints, should clone one of them pins. Looks like it wants to fruit.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493607 - 07/30/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Tissue > agar > sterilised BRF?


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23493620 - 07/30/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tissue > agar > sterilised BRF?




Sure but it might be easier in a syringe. Make some LI or colonize an LC with a wedge.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493751 - 07/30/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tissue > agar > sterilised BRF?




Sure but it might be easier in a syringe. Make some LI or colonize an LC with a wedge.




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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23493814 - 07/30/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So you can grow great cakes with good genetics?

Anyone have any pics of agar to BRF.

Part of me wants to get out of multi spore, another part wants to try grains, another part wants to keep it simple with the cakes.


Looking to grow at this hobby but not looking to dive off the deep end and get frustrated with failure.

Lately I've been spawning cakes to bulk, so I do a little more than just cakes in a SGFC. but often not impressed with yields,potency, pretty fruits etc


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23493833 - 07/30/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Taking a clone is super easy....expanding the clone into a working culture is just as easy.
I forget how scary agar seems to newer cultivators, but it should be chapter 1 for everyone who wants to grow and be successful in this hobby.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23493846 - 07/30/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not trying to jack ops read but I had a buddy I recently gifted quite a bit to, very honest guy, and he said they were bunk. Low potency. I very much believe his word, he wouldn't lie like that for no reason. Wasn't making any money so no point to bullshit. Really saddened me and made me want to ensure I never grow bullshit again. Walmart has a 30 dollar 8qt pressure cooker. I know it's not much but I don't have a lot of disposable income. Really think it'd be better than nothing


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #23493851 - 07/30/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also OP, that's the best cake pinset I've ever seen. I've had kinda similar, but they grew to be quite small. Curious to see if yours get larger than a few inches before maturing.


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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23493856 - 07/30/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also OP, that's the best cake pinset I've ever seen. I've had kinda similar, but they grew to be quite small. Curious to see if yours get larger than a few inches before maturing.




He might need to bottom water to support the pinset. That's why most great pinsets on cakes stub out. Even totally waterlogged cakes can't support a big pinset like that. The water needs to be provided at a rate the network can handle it.


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    #23493876 - 07/30/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also OP, that's the best cake pinset I've ever seen. I've had kinda similar, but they grew to be quite small. Curious to see if yours get larger than a few inches before maturing.




He might need to bottom water to support the pinset. That's why most great pinsets on cakes stub out. Even totally waterlogged cakes can't support a big pinset like that. The water needs to be provided at a rate the network can handle it.





Thanks. Have about 12 cakes going now. Remember you mentioning bottom watering before, I took notes then, and will 100 percent be bottom watering when the time comes it needs it.

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Re: 3 Day Dunk Pinset [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23493974 - 07/30/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet pinset... :seriousthumbsup:  I'm in agreement with sir Pasty on the points he's made about watering and the dunk having the effect on the pinset; more likely the different genetics of MS had the most to do with it along with the environment.  Beautiful cake though for sure!

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