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Dudeitsaaron
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HELP! Is this contaminated
#23493385 - 07/30/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moabfighter
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You prolly should put some fucking holes in the tub
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23493400 - 07/30/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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woah woah woah no need to be mean. i have a hepa filter in there. i bought this pre setup online (http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/)
idk if that matters but if so i will drill some holes in there.
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Sorry. I just don't understand how a lot of people can think zero fresh air could possibly be good. Look up a SGFC.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23493462 - 07/30/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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right ive heard of this one before. i actually tried this method but my question now is whats the point of a hepa filter then?
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23493464 - 07/30/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: Sorry. I just don't understand how a lot of people can think zero fresh air could possibly be good. Look up a SGFC.
Seriously, forget the grow kits. Just build a SGFC to spec. You dont need any filters in your fruiting chamber. And get rid of that hydrometer.
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the point was to sell you crap you don't need.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: dankington]
#23493476 - 07/30/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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DAMN! well shitty!! so what all the stuff on my cakes? is it Mycelium or something else?
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It could be mycelium choking to death… but I'm not 100% sure. It could also be very contaminated. Pump up the FAE with holes (1/4" every 2" in a grid), and see how they look in a couple of days.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: dankington]
#23493719 - 07/30/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Filtered fruiting chamber air. 
That's rich. Who comes up with these kits? You'd think they'd at least not include stuff that could hurt their own bottom line. Maybe they aren't as smart as I thought..
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Dudeitsaaron said: woah woah woah no need to be mean. i have a hepa filter in there. i bought this pre setup online (http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/)
idk if that matters but if so i will drill some holes in there.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: morty422]
#23493837 - 07/30/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd like to start my own grow kit company.
But keep it simple and include a proper SGFC.
Why are none of us shroomery members making money making legit grow kits?
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23493869 - 07/30/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Professor Fanaticus got busted mostly for including his PF tek directions with his spores…
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: dankington]
#23493971 - 07/30/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So does anyone know what is on my cakes?
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Looks to me like the reaction to extreme fresh air restriction.
The quicker you make holes the quicker they're likely to recover.
They're literally starving for fresh air
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Just looks like they are choking from lack of air. No obvious contamination from what I can see. Course that will change in such an anaerobic environment.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23494060 - 07/30/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Filtered fruiting chamber air. 
That's rich. Who comes up with these kits? You'd think they'd at least not include stuff that could hurt their own bottom line. Maybe they aren't as smart as I thought..
"The money is in the medicine, not in the cure."
If they add all these things that will cause it to fail, but they disguise it with descriptions that make it "fail proof"... That puts the fail solely on the cultivator... So they will probably order another one.
Anyway... Besides starving for air, the myc looks pretty healthy.
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If you are not going to make more holes immediately via the SGFC method, fan that sucker out often until you do. Look up pictures of cobweb online and compare. I think that's a very common contaminate when there is not enough airflow. I have learned that with cakes, the tried and true SGFC set up is the best way to go. Good luck.
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Alexthegreat said: If you are not going to make more holes immediately via the SGFC method, fan that sucker out often.
Or don't, because fanning is not FAE, and doesn't replace the holes that you will be making no matter what because if you don't you can expect a whole lot more nothing out of your cakes. Tired of people cutting corners and shit. Don't even give an option B when option A is make holes in your tub.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23505727 - 08/03/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So they look like they are still growing which is very nice but ill put holes in there asap



I do have a concern about this. anyone know what that is?

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Suffering is all I know for sure.
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What it is, again, is no fresh air. Please stop wasting our time if you aren't going to at the very least make holes in your tub
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23505755 - 08/03/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess it could be that. I've never choked something off so bad that it looked like that, so, my experience there is limited.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23508288 - 08/04/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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okay calm down dude im just trying to make sure lol. This is my first grow and if you read my reply i say i was gonna put holes in it.
it looked contaminated. there was bluish bruise looking stuff as far as ive seen that means they are contaminated so decided to double check
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Dudeitsaaron said: okay calm down dude im just trying to make sure lol. This is my first grow and if you read my reply i say i was gonna put holes in it.
it looked contaminated. there was bluish bruise looking stuff as far as ive seen that means they are contaminated so decided to double check
But why haven't you yet? What if you someone put a bag on your head and you were choking, but the person was like, oh! Well, I said I was gonna poke a hole in the bag…
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: dankington]
#23509114 - 08/04/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How long now have you put off poking holes in this? And you're telling us to calm down for being shocked with how unhealthy the cakes look?
Nobody needs to calm down, you need a fire under your ass to do what's necessary apparently.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509160 - 08/04/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blue bruising just looks like just that to me, bruising. It may be a contam hard to tell with all the thick fuzzy myc.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: leech911]
#23509166 - 08/04/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you've still not made holes at this point, just throw it away and find a new hobby.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23509173 - 08/04/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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He's worried about the tiny bit of blue bruising from lack of FAE but not the way the cakes look like fluffy plastic as a result of the same..
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509188 - 08/04/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow... 4 days and still hasnt poked a single hole... in a bag, no less. i mean, if youre too lazy to poke even a few holes, in a bag, not even a plastic tub, but a BAG, which you could literally do with a pencil, or even your damn teeth!.. or anything..... then this hobby isnt for you. sorry, just calling like i see it.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mupetmower]
#23509197 - 08/04/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't wanna know what I poke holes with
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23509202 - 08/04/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509216 - 08/04/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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didnt wanna go there.... but exactly!
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mupetmower]
#23509329 - 08/04/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because
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mupetmower said: if youre too lazy to poke even a few holes, in a bag, not even a plastic tub, but a BAG, which you could literally do with a pencil, or even your damn teeth!.. or anything..... then this hobby isnt for you. sorry, just calling like i see it.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Moabfighter]
#23509544 - 08/04/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: I'd like to start my own grow kit company.
But keep it simple and include a proper SGFC.
Why are none of us shroomery members making money making legit grow kits?
Because we are the ones telling people to do it them self and grow kits are shit. Everything someone needs to know about growing is on this site the site is a grow kit well grow diy I wouldnt want your grow kit with your great advice Shake your cake awesome advice 
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Moabfighter said: Use those bags and put your cakes in, add Verm, and shake well. I find that it sticks better than simply "rolling"
Shake one cake at a time.
 
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23509569 - 08/04/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not terrible advice if it works though... Have you confirmed it doesn't?
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509582 - 08/04/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope would have to shake the tits of it to get a decent amount on the cake before the same action of shaking it knocks it all back off
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23509584 - 08/04/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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But you've done it right?
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509599 - 08/04/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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As ive said nope so maybe not terrible advice I wasnt the only one to think it on the thread it was posted on ive got a cake that will be ready in a few days so will waste or even make the best cake ever with this idea
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23509611 - 08/04/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ehhh in my mind you gotta try a thing like that before you're free to trash on it. It could just work for some fuckin reason. I do agree nobody should be making any grow kits though... in the end it will just be more for us to contend with. Whether or not they're good isn't the point, it's all the vectors left to chance that makes troubleshooting that shit stupid hard.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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i thought the same as well, on the same thread, but i actually did try it with one of my second set of cakes.. i used a cake that had the fewest pins, because i didnt want to damage any of the others, and even still, didnt shake it very hard.. but i just ended up rinsing it back off, so i could roll it the normal way, because hardly any stayed on for me..
it basically did what i thought it would do... it seems yeah, it will initially stick from the moistness on the surface of the cake, but then most of whatever sticks is then immediately knocked back off in the subsequent shaking.. so i just dont get it, really. i mean it looked like maybe, maybe about 40% covered in verm.. it would probably be better to just set it in the bag and then bury it, and leave it there for a while. which is very similar to rolling it normally, anyways.
like i said, i didnt shake it all that hard.. but i really doubt that shaking any harder would help at all.. lukily there was no bruising or other noticeable damage.
i stand by my earlier statement, and would still never recommend it. especially when it's also just more simple to roll it.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mupetmower]
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i actually have one more cake im birthing today, and can do it again, and this time document(take pics) if anyone wants =p
im going to be removing what little pins are on it anyways, since im spawning this cake to those two tiny micro tubs and possibly a Gulp, as well, if any is left.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509635 - 08/04/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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As I say im happy to to give it a go who know could be the missing link to perfect cake prep  ill take pics as I go if nothing else itll be a laugh  Agreed about grow kits all grow kits are really good for is showing idiots like myself whom started with a grow bag the proper way and sparking a real interest in this subject....and also a good way too weed out wasters who wanna illicitly profit from get rich quick drug growing ideas
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23509637 - 08/04/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if mupet tried it and says it's bunk, then I believe him.
But then I ask, mupet, dafuq are you still doing with cakes?
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23509664 - 08/04/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just havent felt super great about my plates recently.. a lot of them were left to get pretty old, because i got kinda busy with work and shit(and a little lazy =p), and then when i finally had/made time to transfer them, it seemed like the growth got kinda lazy.. so i just havent felt the best about finally going to grain with them, just yet.
but i think im gonna just go for it, with one of these few plates i have that i feel pretty good about, and stop being such a pussy 
plus i just got some MEA, so i think im gonna make a batch of plates with it, transfer a few that i feel pretty good about, and see with that does for em, and just do it. all of my plates have been PDA until now. and after i finish spawning this last cake to those micro tubs and Gulp, im going to PC some plates and get shit done. been way too lazy, recently.
i actually just got a PE swab from TheChief so im excited to put that on a plate tonight/tomorrow morning, too!
EDIT - you know what? im gonna go make those paltes right the fuck now! and take a look at all my going plates and see what i wanna do.
Oh, i also forgot to add, i actually kinda like cakes haha =p
i know i havent done any monos to compare it to, but i do like them. but that is probably also because i really love this hobby in general. and love watching my babies grow. which is why im super stoked about this time lapse!!!
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: mupetmower]
#23509674 - 08/04/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cakes are okay in their own way but the maintenance is a bitch and they're pretty fickle.
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Re: HELP! Is this contaminated [Re: Inocuole]
#23509680 - 08/04/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeeeahhhh.. im sure ill have a different opinion on them when i start getting some Monos going.
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