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Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation * 5
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The purpose of this document is to link to the available information on the net about the cultivation of Psilocybe azurescens and similar species (Psilocybe cyanescens and related species)


Psilocybe azurescens


Psilocybe cyanescens

The outdoor cultivation of Psilocybe azurescens is somewhat more complicated than that of Psilocybe cubensis, on the other hand it is easier in some aspects since major parts of the cultivation are done outdoors by mother nature.

The requirement for a successful outdoor fruiting is that you live in the correct climate, the Autumns should be cold and moist. Check this document for a listing of the climate zones that make the cultivation of woodlovers possible.

All of the woodloving species mentioned above follow essentially the same cultivation requirements.

The cultivation consists of the following 3 steps:
1. Germination of spores on agar -> Transfer of colonized agar to grains OR
1a. Direct inoculation with spores using a spore syringe on either a PF cake or grains
2. Transfer of the colonized grain or pf cake to pasteurized or sterilized soaked woodchips.
(particularly suitable are smoke chips, beech or alder)
3. Colonized woodchips are used to inoculate an outdoor woodchips bed located in a shady spot in spring. Best are fresh woodchips from deciduous trees(alder, beech, poplar..but any other deciduous wood will work) also spruce and Douglas fir. Dried, soaked woodchips also work. The bed is kept moist throughout the summer, and in September - December a fruiting occurs.

The most accumulated info on cultivation of Psilocybe azurescens can be found at Sporeworks (click on the images to see the individual grow reports), a very good document also at MushMush.

Time line for the cultivation of Psilocybe azurescens

January, February:
Grain spawn preparation.

February, March:
Grain spawn transfer to sterilized wood chips.

March, April, Mai (as soon the snow melts):
Colonized wood chips to outdoor wood chips beds.

October, November, December
Fruiting

Once you have an established patch, you can simply add fresh woodchips to the patch every year and thus extend its lifetime for years.

Useful links:

Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation
Historical P. azurescens
cultivation notes by TEONANACATL
Psilocybe cyanescens Cultivation

The spores for microscopic research are available from several Shroomery sponsors.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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thanks anno.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Most excellent!  :thumbup:

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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i was under the impression that cedar was a decidious hardwood...but it is inadequate for the of this species...could you explain why this wood is not suitable.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: llamaboy]
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Cedar is evergreen.
Read this post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=2075771


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: llamaboy]
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cedar is a conifer.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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It doesn't matter if the ground freezes solid during the winter, does it?

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Stipe]
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No, it doesn?t matter , here in Austria the winter temperatures go up to - 20?C for short periods of time, usually it's around 0?C for about 3 months in winter.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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thank you for the link anno...gland i didn't attempt to use cedar...for some reason it's just hard to find any decent hardwood, even living in the PNW.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: llamaboy]
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Some suitable tree species:
beech, oak, birch, chestnut, alder, maple, cottonwood, willow, aspen, poplar, elm , spruce, douglas fir, sweet gum, sycamore ...


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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but alder or beech are without a doubt the best, right?

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: llamaboy]
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I don?t know about the best, but they are certainly very well suitable and proven to work well.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Thank you AnnoIn colder climates are like the first frost comes in October.
Is it possible to plant outdoors when the snow melts'
spawn an outdoor bed in may and fruit in september.
Will that work?

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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what about chinese elm?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Well what do you know, I was just about to start up some azure spawn. Thanks for the info and links.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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fee said:
Thank you AnnoIn colder climates are like the first frost comes in October.
Is it possible to plant outdoors when the snow melts'
spawn an outdoor bed in may and fruit in september.
Will that work?


What do you think?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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My bed fruited a bit over five months from spawning.

Joshua


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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I live in the sub tropic's. What ashame.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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>spawn an outdoor bed in may and fruit in september.
>Will that work?

This could be a bit short, depends on how well the summer conditions are. If you water the bed well in the summer it could be that you are lucky, but there is no guarantee.
If it doesn?t fruit the first year, it will likely fruit the second.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Ya I live where its about the zone 4 allmost 5 I dont know if it would work or not hopeing that it would

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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Try it out, and report.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: blazenaz]
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>what about chinese elm?
Don?t see why not.

Here is a list of trees recommended for the cultivation of gourmet and medicinal species, you can pretty much translate this 1:1 for growing Psilocybe wood lovers.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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what about direct incoculation of a pf cake with a wild print syringe? can u incoulate afrom a syringe just strait into fine wood chips?

thanks man
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
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>what about direct inoculation of a pf cake with a wild print syringe?
If the syringe is clean(which CAN be the case if you worked clean when taking the print and the mushroom itself was clean) then it works. Otherwise you will see contamination grow. P. azurescens colonizes normal PF cakes in ~3 weeks at room temperature.

>can u inoculate from a syringe just strait into fine wood chips?
Hardly. Spores germinate very poorly on woodchips. Inoculation on something more nutritious is needed if you want to see results in a reasonable time.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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ok thanks for the info. i am not in teh hardyness zone but ill giver a shot. outdoor season end of may to sept.

also would it be a good idea to cover the bed with carboard to keep it moist and make it easy to water? its been dry here.

thanks man doin a good job and its appreciated


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
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>i am not in the hardiness zone but ill giver a shot. outdoor season end of may to sept.
If you are in a hardiness zone less than 5, you could potentially still have success by letting the substrate colonize outdoor during the summer, and then move it indoor in a cold cellar when the temperatures fall under the freezing point.
Mobyd has done this the past 2 years and it worked well for him, here are the links:

Azures INDOOR/OUTDOOR
Azurescens indoor 2003

>would it be a good idea to cover the bed with cardboard to keep it moist and make it easy to water?
Yes, you can do this.
The rule is to not over-water, the bed should be kept moist at all times for fast colonization , but don?t let it sit in water.
If you keep the bed moist, the colonization will speed up considerably. In drier conditions the colonization will take longer.
I had a couple of patches that I didn?t water at all throughout the very dry summer, and they still fruited, wood lovers are quite hardy.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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those are some great links thanks anno
can you colinize outdoors in a rubbermaid with a clear top?
Or is the point of being outdoors is to have the full enviroment?
Thanks for everything anno your the man

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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>is the point of being outdoors is to have the full environment?

Yes, the point of colonizing them outdoors is to expose them to natural conditions. It seems as they profit greatly from this, since "normal" indoor cultivation attempts are very hard to successfully accomplish.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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so just trays outdoors with a cardboard box over them?
or can I put a upside down rubbermaid over them?
or just leave them be? thanks anno for all the help

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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>so just trays outdoors with a cardboard box over them?
>or can I put a upside down rubbermaid over them?
>or just leave them be?

In this thread
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Growlog&Number=1020070
he left the trays uncovered, I guess loosely covering with cardboard can?t hurt.
Try both and report your findings.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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thanks
also I didnt see any mebtion of a casing layer
should it be fine the way it is or a 60/40 casing layer is better?
sorry for all the questions

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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No casing layer needed, but possible and potentially beneficial.
I like to make my patches in form of channels with earth in between, this way the mycelium is in contact with soil which it obviously benefits from, most fruits come from the area where the woodchips come contact with soil. Some fruits also occur away from the patch in soil covered with growing grass.

I forgot to post this link before, a very good pictorial about P. azurescens cultivation:

http://utenti.lycos.it/azurescens/data/taf_e.pdf (pdf, 900kb)


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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A good pictorial by Una:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=328552
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Number=338217


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Pictures of birdseed spawn, inoculated with agar on the 8th of Februaray from left to right:
Psilocybe azurescens (clone), Psilocybe cyanescens(multispore isolate), Psilocybe moravica (multispore isolate).


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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:loveeyes: ye gods

:crazy2:good old anno


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: shirley knott]
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Thanks anno you have hooked it up

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Beech smoke chips were simmered for 1 hour in order to soak them, then strained for 10 minutes and pressure cooked for 45 minutes in jars. After they cooled down the jars were inoculated with the above Psilocybe azurescens birdseed spawn.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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.....sometimes i wish someone would
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baby you're the best  :heartpump: :kiss:


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: shirley knott]
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This is a jar of soaked woodchips colonizing from another woodloving Psilocybe species.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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i am assuming it takes so long to colonize wood chips because of not very avaliable energy and nutrients. so what if one was to use shredded aspen to have a larger surface area and then added a bit of karo, or even a little bit of brf?


thanks anno. gunna have to hang out sometime.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
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> what if one was to use shredded aspen to have a larger surface area and then
>added a bit of karo, or even a little bit of BRF?

You mean outdoors? This would be an open invitation to any kind of contaminants.

As for the addition to the wood spawn that you are preparing in jars, addition of bran or BRF is possible, but also here the contamination risk gets higher of course.

The beauty of growing woodlovers outdoors is that, once you are past the initial grain spawn preparation stage, the contaminants are virtually a non issue.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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i meant in the spawn just to quicken the growth.

just a idea here. make a syringe from a wild print and add a antibiotic(im not sure which would be teh best, gentomycin the the commonest but is it teh best?) then inoculate shedded aspen/BRF. or is patients the key? is there is no way to quicken woodlovers growth consistantly without contams?


hmm, now that i think of it antibiotics would probably hurt the fruiting. because of the symbiotic relationship woodlovers have with bacteria to fruit. would isolating said bacteria then inoculating spawn be benificial for the speed or jsut fruting?


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Edited by the man (02/21/04 03:31 AM)

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
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>make a syringe from a wild print [...]then inoculate shedded aspen/BRF

I am sure this would work good also, yes, providing the print is clean.

>and add a antibiotic(im not sure which would be teh best, gentomycin the the
>commonest but is it teh best?)

Am antibiotic only kills bacteria, but it doesn?t kill mold spores.
With wood, bacteria are not much of a problem, but mold spores can contaminate woodchips too.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Mycelium spreading from grain to the woodchips.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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People ask from time to time if indoor cultivation is possible.
Yes, it is, but one needs a dedicated controlled environment. Here is how it can be done:

Psilocybe azurescens indoor cultivation


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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It is also possible to skip the step where you inoculate the sterilized woodchips with grain spawn and inoculate the outdoor beds directly with grain spawn instead.
The drawback of this method is that rodents and birds sometime disturb or destroy the outdoor beds prepared in this manner by picking out the colonized grains.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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that's how i like to do it, from grains to outdoor beds  :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Nearly colonized.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Would it be a really bad idea to attempt to fruit colonized wood chips in a brass container?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Quote:
Anno said:
It is also possible to skip the step where you inoculate the sterilized woodchips with grain spawn and inoculate the outdoor beds directly with grain spawn instead.
The drawback of this method is that rodents and birds sometime disturb or destroy the outdoor beds prepared in this manner by picking out the colonized grains.



Its also possible to miss out the grain, and inoculate
fine wood chips in jars or bags. This helps stop birds from
scratching up the wood chips looking for seeds.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Loki]
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>Its also possible to miss out the grain, and inoculate
>fine wood chips in jars or bags.

With agar? This takes forever imo.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Fully colonized woodchips spawn in a jar


and transfered to a plastic baggie awaiting to be spawned to chips outdoors.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Doesn't take that long for me, i use a much finer
chips size as spawn though.

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Loki]
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ohh crap !
I'm kind of late !
I didn't begin my spawn yet because i thought it was alot later !
What is the deadline for outdoor inoculation in zone 7b - 8 ?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: InfiniteAdam]
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You can begin anytime of the year.
If you plant the bed outdoors too late in this year, it simply won?t fruit this year, but if you add some fresh wood material next year, it will fruit in the autumn of the next year.
Better start now than be late next year again.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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nice !
Thanks !


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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3 days ago I planted a bed of P. moravica. Sorry, no photos, it was a plant an run operation  :wink:

Now only P. cyanescens from the Kew gardens is left to get a new home.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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wow the great outdoors, many vistas to conquer

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
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How do you "protect" your bed if you are in a zone five?

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Myceliumcake]
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You cover it with a thick layer of woodchips or cardboard or straw.
And snow on top of that.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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I definately agree on using wood rather than grain as spawn for outdoor beds. My azure bed was slowed this spring because after it was inoculated a gopher plowed through and ATE about half the spawn(:lol: hope the lil bastard tripped his lil gopher balls off). The upside is he spread it about and now the bed is fully colonized (9m2) and pinning for falls fruit.My midsummer feeding was simply alder chips hydrated in 3% h2o2.I have had no further intrusions by burrowing varmits now that the grains are gone.
BTW I have found adding a small percentage of straw to the wood greatly increases the speed which wood lovers propagate as spawn.The myc uses the hollow straw like a superhighway to traverse the media.Additionaly my azure bed is layered Phalaris straw and chips with No difference in the vigorous nature of the myc on either substrate.Also the gopher which plowed my patch has spread the myc and the patch now has several sattelites in a 20m2 area.
IMHO outdoor cult is by far the most rewarding and interesting.Not really having to deal with contaminants just the occasional rodent. I truly love my hericium and shitakke logs and my P.eryngii beds of alder chips.But my azures are my treasures.
Peace,
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: whiterasta]
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how would winter temps in TX treat the Psil. Cyan/Azure
temp range= 70-25 F(extreme) but usually in the 50-40's F


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: GreenHeathen]
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oh yah im talking bout fruiting temps here not colonization


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: GreenHeathen]
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At 25?F they would freeze and stop growing.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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would they come back when it got warmer? anything above 25F should be ok then?..most of the time the temps in the dead of winter will be in the 40s to 30's, how will they hold up in that environment?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: GreenHeathen]
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The patch itself can sustain temperatures far under the freezing point. Just the mushrooms don't grow anymore when the temperature is under 0?C.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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here is my addition to this topic. i dont want to repost so i'll link.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3330570/an/0/page/0

I suggest using human safe bacterium to promote a fake micro envronment.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Search59]
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Time to start.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Anno said:
Time to start.


getting ready then :laugh:
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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very timely bump anno
i was just discussing that azure print...


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Time is slowly running out....


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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The jar of sterilized beech wood chips has been inoculated with rye grain spawn 8 days ago. Shaken 2 days ago.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Hrm... I've been attempting this, and i tried direct inoculation of spores onto rye and I got no results. Any thoughts?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: chocbruce]
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No germination, no contamination, nothing? Was the rye cooled down enough? How old are the spores? In which form were the spores and what were your procedures?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: chocbruce]
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Hello, anybody home?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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shit sorry...ignore this post  :tongue:


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: minErval]
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yes?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Do you think it would be possible to have any kind of outdoor cultivation operation in a Zone 5 region? The place I'm thinking of usually gets down to -25` F (-31.67` C) in the coldest days of the year. Would this be too cold, even if I provided insulation?
Also, if its too cold for P. Azures, what (psychoactive) species would I be able to grow in those temps?

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: MycoJunkie]
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-25 is very cold.....The only way to see is to try it out.
How about colonizing them outdoors during summer, and fruiting them in a cold cellar in autumn?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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I've never even seen a cellar in real life. Do you think it would be possible to fruit them outside, in an enclosure, like a greenhouse or slighty heated martha?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: MycoJunkie]
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Probably, as long as you can keep the temperature around 5?C.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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Yihaaa!

I spawned some colonized beech to a bag of more beech. Can I "shake" it now cause the colonised chips didnt spread much even cross the new beech-chips? I want to massage it.... The bag that is.. :laugh:

MF


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: MushroomFriend]
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Go ahead, if there is no visible contamination(=green mold) in the bag.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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I actually had some green mold in some of the "startjars". But the Azures stopped it and formed a barrier against it.
Also the green mold was more feasting on the few rice kernals inside and not on the wood.

So there probably are spores in the bag but no visible green mold yet or other contams.

Thanks I will massage my sack! :lol:

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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: MushroomFriend]
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Roughly how many of these sized shrooms (from http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/25150)
would it take to trip (Level 3-5)? These are Azures btw.


Also, for everyones info, here is quote from http://www.fungifun.org/azurescens/

"Outdoor cultivation of the wood lovers is possible in the plant hardiness zones 6, 7 and 8.
The range can likely be extended also to zone 5, but the beds will need to be protected by applying a layer of fresh wood chips or a thicker layer of straw to survive the low temperatures in winter. "

"Here in Austria the winter temperatures go up to - 20?C for short periods of time, usually it's a few degrees below 0?C for about 3 months in winter. The mycelium is pretty hardy and once the bed is established and colonized it survives pretty cold temperatures. Just to be sure, you can cower the bed with a new layer of chips or straw or cardboard before winter."

Very interesting stuff.  Too bad I travel too much :frown:
Here is a question: Would the indoor cultivation take as long as the outdoor?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
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They almost twice as potent as the cubes, so there you go! :laugh:


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: MycoJunkie]
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>Would the indoor cultivation take as long as the outdoor?

No, if you manage to create the proper conditions(as outlined in your link) then it will take shorter indoors.


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