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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
    #2362658 - 02/21/04 03:22 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

> what if one was to use shredded aspen to have a larger surface area and then
>added a bit of karo, or even a little bit of BRF?

You mean outdoors? This would be an open invitation to any kind of contaminants.

As for the addition to the wood spawn that you are preparing in jars, addition of bran or BRF is possible, but also here the contamination risk gets higher of course.

The beauty of growing woodlovers outdoors is that, once you are past the initial grain spawn preparation stage, the contaminants are virtually a non issue.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2362666 - 02/21/04 03:29 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

i meant in the spawn just to quicken the growth.

just a idea here. make a syringe from a wild print and add a antibiotic(im not sure which would be teh best, gentomycin the the commonest but is it teh best?) then inoculate shedded aspen/BRF. or is patients the key? is there is no way to quicken woodlovers growth consistantly without contams?


hmm, now that i think of it antibiotics would probably hurt the fruiting. because of the symbiotic relationship woodlovers have with bacteria to fruit. would isolating said bacteria then inoculating spawn be benificial for the speed or jsut fruting?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: the man]
    #2362699 - 02/21/04 03:53 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

>make a syringe from a wild print [...]then inoculate shedded aspen/BRF

I am sure this would work good also, yes, providing the print is clean.

>and add a antibiotic(im not sure which would be teh best, gentomycin the the
>commonest but is it teh best?)

Am antibiotic only kills bacteria, but it doesn?t kill mold spores.
With wood, bacteria are not much of a problem, but mold spores can contaminate woodchips too.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2375481 - 02/25/04 03:36 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Mycelium spreading from grain to the woodchips.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2375485 - 02/25/04 03:54 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

People ask from time to time if indoor cultivation is possible.
Yes, it is, but one needs a dedicated controlled environment. Here is how it can be done:

Psilocybe azurescens indoor cultivation


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2381953 - 02/27/04 02:22 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It is also possible to skip the step where you inoculate the sterilized woodchips with grain spawn and inoculate the outdoor beds directly with grain spawn instead.
The drawback of this method is that rodents and birds sometime disturb or destroy the outdoor beds prepared in this manner by picking out the colonized grains.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2382032 - 02/27/04 03:58 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

that's how i like to do it, from grains to outdoor beds  :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2388818 - 02/29/04 12:04 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Nearly colonized.



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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2388964 - 02/29/04 01:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Would it be a really bad idea to attempt to fruit colonized wood chips in a brass container?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2388972 - 02/29/04 01:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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It is also possible to skip the step where you inoculate the sterilized woodchips with grain spawn and inoculate the outdoor beds directly with grain spawn instead.
The drawback of this method is that rodents and birds sometime disturb or destroy the outdoor beds prepared in this manner by picking out the colonized grains.




Its also possible to miss out the grain, and inoculate
fine wood chips in jars or bags. This helps stop birds from
scratching up the wood chips looking for seeds.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Loki]
    #2389057 - 02/29/04 01:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

>Its also possible to miss out the grain, and inoculate
>fine wood chips in jars or bags.

With agar? This takes forever imo.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2410949 - 03/09/04 11:58 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Fully colonized woodchips spawn in a jar


and transfered to a plastic baggie awaiting to be spawned to chips outdoors.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2410962 - 03/09/04 12:01 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Doesn't take that long for me, i use a much finer
chips size as spawn though.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Loki]
    #2412519 - 03/09/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

ohh crap !
I'm kind of late !
I didn't begin my spawn yet because i thought it was alot later !
What is the deadline for outdoor inoculation in zone 7b - 8 ?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: InfiniteAdam]
    #2414075 - 03/10/04 08:14 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You can begin anytime of the year.
If you plant the bed outdoors too late in this year, it simply won?t fruit this year, but if you add some fresh wood material next year, it will fruit in the autumn of the next year.
Better start now than be late next year again.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2416801 - 03/10/04 08:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

nice !
Thanks !


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2581509 - 04/20/04 04:45 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

3 days ago I planted a bed of P. moravica. Sorry, no photos, it was a plant an run operation  :wink:

Now only P. cyanescens from the Kew gardens is left to get a new home.


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Anno]
    #2581518 - 04/20/04 04:54 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

wow the great outdoors, many vistas to conquer


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: fee]
    #3072862 - 08/31/04 06:22 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

How do you "protect" your bed if you are in a zone five?


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Re: Psilocybe azurescens outdoor cultivation [Re: Myceliumcake]
    #3072949 - 08/31/04 07:23 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

You cover it with a thick layer of woodchips or cardboard or straw.
And snow on top of that.


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