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00Burnout
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So I'm not 100% sure if this question is appropriate or not but I've been wanting to start cultivating for some time now but there's a few problems. 1) lack of working space 2) too poor for even pf tek 3) information overload. My question is are there any cultivators in my area (Howell and Oregon county Missouri) that would be willing to teach me? Reading all the how to's only does me so much good as I've always been a hands on learner and I don't have the money to learn from my mistakes. If this post is inappropriate I'll remove it otherwise PM me.
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Inocuole
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I can't see a lot of people wanting to go way out of their way, risking their personal security, to help someone grow who wants them to every bit of info.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273
Good places to start. ^ If you really can't afford PF tek though, then I'd say now is probably not the time, and you should consider adjusting your life priorities. It's less than 50 dollars to get started. If you can't spare that much, I'm guessing you have other needs that aren't being met while you think about growing drugs.
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spirit_shadow
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Inocuole said: I can't see a lot of people wanting to go way out of their way, risking their personal security, to help someone grow who wants them to every bit of info.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273
Good places to start. ^ If you really can't afford PF tek though, then I'd say now is probably not the time, and you should consider adjusting your life priorities. It's less than 50 dollars to get started. If you can't spare that much, I'm guessing you have other needs that aren't being met while you think about growing drugs.
This. Hell you could probably get started around $30.
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bodhisatta 
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If you can't afford the PF TEK this isn't for you. Not to be a dick but we grow felonies and are adults here. And that's the real answer
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00Burnout
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I figured as much, but I saw no harm in asking, even someone growing culinary/medicinal mushrooms would help. It's not so much the cost aspect as it is the space aspect, I understand that an FC doesn't take up much space but it's more or less space for LCs and other supplies that's the issue, I have other projects taking up a lot of space. As far as start up cost, every time I have the money to start up something more important comes up. I never neglect my necessities for the sake of a project. I've been looking into premade spawn bags to do a simple in vitro grow, but they all seem to be hit and miss. By no means do I expect someone to just say "hey person I've never met before, here's my address just stop on by and check out my op" I will check out those links though, hopefully one of these days I'll be able to start instead of reading post after post.
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bodhisatta 
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I was paycheck to paycheck for a year. Barely grew and I had supplies already.
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00Burnout
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I would've had the money to do as big of a grow as I wanted, but my well pump crapped out on me. It's more so I can't afford to screw up right now
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Inocuole
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PF tek/SGFC it is then.
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Mad Season
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00Burnout said: I would've had the money to do as big of a grow as I wanted, but my well pump crapped out on me. It's more so I can't afford to screw up right now
Ouch. My pump went this year too. It was so fucked. The bill I mean .
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Pastywhyte
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I'm gonna be totally honest here, there are certain basics that must be met. I can grow with a very low cost in materials and supplies but I can't grow well without the equipment which can be a ltitle costly. A dozen quart jars or half pints ain't taking up that much space and a couple of totes ain't either. If you are that strapped for cash and space then ya better figure those things out first.
For your situation I would suggest forgetting about cubes anyways. Grow stones instead. No need to fruit them and that cuts a lot of space out of the equation. But to do stones well is gonna mean access to a pressure cooker and grain. Your gonna need quart jars. You would probably be well served to use agar, which of course means a SAB. Figure all that out and maybe by that point you might have the room to do cubes after all.
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00Burnout
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I'm doing all the work myself, it's a pain and kinda scary. So far I've pulled 120ft of pipe and it's not getting any easier, I just hope my winch makes it through it.
Thanks Patsywhyte, I'll do some more research on doing stones and grain prep. I'm trying to avoid going cheap, I'd rather spend the next few months buying/making good equipment rather than jump in with cheapo crap. I'm aiming for high quality and high yields with minimal risk for contamination. I plan on doing a single in vitro bag just for shits and giggles, I know someone in my town who claims they did in vitro with a premade spawn bag (2lb rye) and got an oz dry on the first flush, correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds like total bullshit to me.
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Pastywhyte
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A oz dry from 2 lbs of rye is a terrible yield. He would have done better to spawn it to bulk and seen 4 times that amount. Also premade stuff sucks in general and spores to grain bags is pretty risky. Just so you know.
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Inocuole
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I prefer 6-10oz dry first flushes personally.
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Pastywhyte
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I think 2 lbs hydrated grain is like only 2-3 quarts. But still a half oz dry per quart is a waste of grain spawn.
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mrmazdarx9
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I like what this guys saying about putting bills and life first if you were UK I'd help you out with what ever I could mate to get you on the way or at least tick a few things off the list of what you need. I can donate a print depending on legality of where you live, but you'd need an agar set up to get a good clean grow which is again more money but IMO defo worth the initial investment as you'll never need to buy spore syringes again and eliminate contams early on
Edited by mrmazdarx9 (07/30/16 03:06 PM)
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00Burnout
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I figured doing in vitro wouldn't even give you that much, the surface area in those bags is crap, and she isn't the most intelligent of people either. I would certainly hope spawning to bulk would up the yield, common sense says more nutrients and space=more fruits. I almost made the mistake of buying a bunch of premade bags and just innoculating with a ms syringe when I first made my account. Thank God I asked questions cause I would've most likely wasted my money. Now if I buy a premade bag it'd only be one just for the hell of it and I'd make some LC first. I've read far to many bad reviews on them to make a big investment. I think I'll just do some stones for now, seems a lot cost and space friendly.
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00Burnout
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mrmazdarx9 said: I like what this guys saying about putting bills and life first if you were UK I'd help you out with what ever I could mate to get you on the way or at least tick a few things off the list of what you need. I can donate a print depending on legality of where you live, but you'd need an agar set up to get a good clean grow which is again more money but IMO defo worth the initial investment as you'll never need to buy spore syringes again and eliminate contams early on
I appreciate man, spores are legal in my state thankfully. I'll let you know if I get the money/space set up if you're serious about donating a print might be awhile though. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and will probably wind up setting an area up as close to being a clean room as I can especially before working with agar, I definitely wouldn't want to let a good print go to waste.
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Pastywhyte
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I would avoid using spores for LC. No matter what be sure to test any LC carefully be fore you use it.
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Bigbadwooof
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My first grow I ordered some large BRF bags pre-made with injection ports. I injected with spores, and got like 6-10 'flushes' off 2 of the four bags. Looking back, the other two went bacterial. I put them under my bed next to the radiator, because I thought they needed heat. I am lucky I got anything.
They probably put out an Oz and a half between them, I would say. Maybe more or less, hard to say. I tripped a lot though! Just eating them fresh.
You may be able to get away with doing this. Look for BRF bags from the vendor sites, and get a few with injection ports. Get a spore string from a reputable vendor, and flame sterilize the needle. Soak a cotton ball in rubbing alcohol, and stick the needle through it, and through the injection port. Squirt 2-3cc's in there and wait a month. If it is half done, sometimes kneeding the bag will speed things up.
Then again, if you can't afford the pf tek, this may be off the table.
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mrmazdarx9
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mrmazdarx9 said: I like what this guys saying about putting bills and life first if you were UK I'd help you out with what ever I could mate to get you on the way or at least tick a few things off the list of what you need. I can donate a print depending on legality of where you live, but you'd need an agar set up to get a good clean grow which is again more money but IMO defo worth the initial investment as you'll never need to buy spore syringes again and eliminate contams early on
I appreciate man, spores are legal in my state thankfully. I'll let you know if I get the money/space set up if you're serious about donating a print might be awhile though. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and will probably wind up setting an area up as close to being a clean room as I can especially before working with agar, I definitely wouldn't want to let a good print go to waste.
Yes mate not a problem hit me up when your ready currently only have 2 GT prints but one will last me a good while and my next grow is only a week away from going into fruiting I've said it in a public area now so I can't back out
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Edited by mrmazdarx9 (07/30/16 03:45 PM)
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Bigbadwooof
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By the way, Trusted Cultivator, this:
Not to be a dick but we grow felonies and are adults here. And that's the real answer.
Is going in my sig lmao!
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00Burnout
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Thanks pasty I'll make sure to keep that in mind when I get the ball rolling.
I'm sure it's been a fat minute since then but what site did you order your BRF bags from Bigbadwoof, I found some from outgrow but the reviews were 50/50 some people had good sterile bags while others got bags that arrived contaminated, hence my skepticism with premade subs. I'm not getting into this hobby solely to get fucked up or even to make money (although both are pretty good incentives) but the science behind it itself fascinates me, plus I pride myself in being a jack of all trades. One can never learn too much.
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00Burnout
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00Burnout said:
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mrmazdarx9 said: I like what this guys saying about putting bills and life first if you were UK I'd help you out with what ever I could mate to get you on the way or at least tick a few things off the list of what you need. I can donate a print depending on legality of where you live, but you'd need an agar set up to get a good clean grow which is again more money but IMO defo worth the initial investment as you'll never need to buy spore syringes again and eliminate contams early on
I appreciate man, spores are legal in my state thankfully. I'll let you know if I get the money/space set up if you're serious about donating a print might be awhile though. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and will probably wind up setting an area up as close to being a clean room as I can especially before working with agar, I definitely wouldn't want to let a good print go to waste.
Yes mate not a problem hit me up when your ready currently only have 2 GT prints but one will last me a good while and my next grow is only a week away from going into fruiting I've said it in a public area now so I can't back out 
When I go to grow cubes GTs are what I'm going for anyway lol
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mrmazdarx9
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Sweet then mate I'm a man of my word
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