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agarmeister
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On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa)
#23491421 - 07/30/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all,
I would like to try making changa - enhanced leaf, in order to smoke it in a joint (can't do bongs...)
I have the following ingredients:
Freebase spice freebase extracted harmala dry damiana leaves
I couldn't find specific instructions (yes, I googled, and Nexused) on how to do it with harmala extract, what are the dosages etc.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23492075 - 07/30/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use the harmalas in a 1:2 ratio with the DMT. Then I weigh out the leaves at a 1:1 ratio with the alkaloids.
Use acetone for the infusion, evaporates very fast and can dissolve both of the alkaloids. 50ml of acetone can hold up to 200mg of harmala freebase, and plenty of DMT.
Put both the harmala and dmt into the acetone, let dissolve, then add in your plants and evaporate under a fan. Stir once in a while, especially near the end so the leaves are evenly coated.
Example: 400mg harmala + 800mg DMT, dissolved in 100ml acetone, add 1200mg leaf, evap. End product should weigh 2400mg. 1 dose would be about 120mg.
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: Icon]
#23492121 - 07/30/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I MUCH prefer ethyl alcohol over acetone for the solvent. Get some 180 proof Graves or Everclear. Otherwise, 
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: Nature Boy]
#23492283 - 07/30/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot guys.
wow.. 800mg of D... that sounds like a lot considering the minuscule amount one needs when vaping.
Is smoking that much less efficient than vaping?
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23492490 - 07/30/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude...you don't smoke the entire batch at once! That's a recipe for making up multiple doses!!!!! 
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: Nature Boy]
#23492502 - 07/30/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: dcthestar]
#23492508 - 07/30/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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INDEED!
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23494165 - 07/30/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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agarmeister said: in order to smoke it in a joint (can't do bongs...)
Get a pipe! Pipes are superior to joints. Joints are very wasteful HOWEVER trippy joints are f**king awesome. Still unless you have abundant spice, pipe up!
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: 3waesz]
#23494326 - 07/31/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hehe.. I didn't think you meant taking it all in one go 
I meant that when vaping I need about 7 - 10mg (yes, I'm that sensitive), so I'm not used to even carry that much at once...
Anyways, point taken.
Now about that pipe, what kind of pipe do you mean? The ones that are used for vaping, such as GVG?
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23494367 - 07/31/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive always enjoyed DMT joints. Id love to try a changa joint I hear its much easier to smoke and gives a much more prolonged buzz. If I spread the dmt properly I can get full on psychedelic experiences from 30mg in a joint.
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: SonicTitan]
#23494388 - 07/31/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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interesting.
Do you out most of it near the filter so it evaporates rather than combusts?
What kind of leaf are you using? does it work well with weed?
Also, doesn't it turn into liquid and turns the joint into a soggy mess?
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23494391 - 07/31/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I space it out evenly in the middle so its vaping before it burns. I use weed exclusively. Haven't tried any other herbal blends. I like using weed because when you come down it feels like you just smoked a huge blunt for about 2 hours after hahaha
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23494486 - 07/31/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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agarmeister said: Hehe.. I didn't think you meant taking it all in one go 
I meant that when vaping I need about 7 - 10mg (yes, I'm that sensitive), so I'm not used to even carry that much at once...
Anyways, point taken.
Now about that pipe, what kind of pipe do you mean? The ones that are used for vaping, such as GVG?
You can use a normal glass pipe. You don't need a vaporizer pipe.
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: healing]
#23494521 - 07/31/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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healing said:
Quote:
agarmeister said: Hehe.. I didn't think you meant taking it all in one go 
I meant that when vaping I need about 7 - 10mg (yes, I'm that sensitive), so I'm not used to even carry that much at once...
Anyways, point taken.
Now about that pipe, what kind of pipe do you mean? The ones that are used for vaping, such as GVG?
You can use a normal glass pipe. You don't need a vaporizer pipe.
Mine is clay just don't touch the erbs with the fire
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: 3waesz]
#23494649 - 07/31/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks!
So are harmala alkaloids safe to consume when you combust the freebase? There's so little information about that on-line..
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: agarmeister]
#23494685 - 07/31/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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agarmeister said: Thanks!
So are harmala alkaloids safe to consume when you combust the freebase? There's so little information about that on-line..
Yes, people have been doing it safely for very long time.
But you're not combusting the DMT or the harmala alkaloids. You are combusting the plant material which in turn vaporizes the DMT and harmala alkaloids.
Since you're so sensitive to DMT you might want to adjust the ratios a little bit to suit your neurochemistry. This recipe results in a dose of 20mg of harmala alkaloids and 40mg of DMT per 120mg of final material. You could just decrease the amount of DMT in the recipe a bit so that the dosage is closer to 10mg, it just takes a little math.
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Re: On the preparation of enhanced leaf (changa) [Re: healing]
#23494696 - 07/31/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds great.
I did try vaping some freebase harmala with my pipe, but it just didn't happen. I guess that its vaporisation point is higher than that of dmt.
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