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New Panaeolus fungi battle
    #23491240 - 07/30/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, another grow round is coming.)
two trays with cyans goliath and two with tropicalis. Both cultures shows super cool colonizing temps - only 3 days after spawning and they are almost ready.
also i dunked tropicalis jar before spawning. 

crapy quality, I'll get a good camera in a few days.

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All buddies finished colonization process today. A few minutes before casing.

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fruiting day 1.

day 3.

day 5.

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some pins from both trays

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harvest1 / both trays




second flush in progress


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harvest 2


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23491305 - 07/30/16 03:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Did you inoculated with manure/brf mix? How many days fully colonized after inoculate?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: noppie]
    #23491311 - 07/30/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I used rye, then spawning it to manure/verm substrate. Don't know why, but colonization of rye jars took some long time ~ 3 weeks. but it's cool that temps after spawning are much more like pans.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23491341 - 07/30/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have inoculated into brf/manure jar 10 days ago but no any sign of colonization :/  jars keepin about 80F
Is it early to worrying about? What you think? Did you inoculated like this before?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: noppie]
    #23491351 - 07/30/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

personally, I get nervous if within 10 days can not see anything. but give them a few more days, it may be okay.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23491771 - 07/30/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Good to see you back again,  looking forward :popcorn:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Grey]
    #23491812 - 07/30/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23492300 - 07/30/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool that you here too, guys:psychsplit:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23497878 - 08/01/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All buddies finished colonization process today. A few minutes before casing.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23497882 - 08/01/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23497913 - 08/01/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I love pan grows. Even the unsuccessful ones :smile:. Exotics ftw


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23498205 - 08/01/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

aaaw yeah, great stuff gt! My favorite comrade! :woot:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: spacechildo]
    #23498235 - 08/01/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23498288 - 08/01/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh boy. That's is some beautifully snowy looking mycelium.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23500918 - 08/02/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How thick of a casing do you apply, my casing got absolutely demolished.
I used closer to a 1/4" casing of jiffy mix. Not sure if I should re-case? Will they still fruit? :justdontknow:



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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23500942 - 08/02/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Same thickness, man. I have never fight with colonized casing, but in my opinion re-case is bad idea.
For example Blue Helix had great results with fully colonized top - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8893238


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23501099 - 08/02/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That gives me some hope, its been about 6 days since casing, so I guess I'll have to wait and see


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23501190 - 08/02/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I recently did a Pan cy Jamaican grow comparing different substrates- With two of the subs the mycelia also colonized the case- but not to the degree that yours did- it finally did fruit but it took 11 days to get fruits vs only 4 days for the other two subs where the case never was colonized.
With that degree of colonization of the case that you have I'd probably want to re-case, but I think GT40 has more experience with this than me so....

Regardless I'll follow along to see how it goes, best wishes!


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23501271 - 08/02/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Have 0 experience with overlays.)
You have two trays.. so I probably apply casing to one and left another uncased. I think it's interesting and not prevent final results, but it may help to understand something about this herafter.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23501308 - 08/02/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree, its great info for all of us to find out how it turns out.

BTW- GT40- Your Jamaica grow was fantastic- looks like you used a GH. Makes me want to make one!


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23501359 - 08/02/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thanks) GH is way to go with pans)


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23501812 - 08/02/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, fruiting day 1.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23501935 - 08/02/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:
From your grows it looks like your GH is nicely dialed in for growing Pans. Do you have any thoughts/ tips on starting a GH?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23501942 - 08/02/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also curious on this. Do you have fans, timers, etc.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23502013 - 08/02/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

On this photo almost all what I have, pretty common.
cpu fan with speed control, ultramist + timer and aquarium heater in water for additional evaparation and temperature if needed, but previous Jamaica grow was success without it.
I look for temps in GH with mercury, it's the only thing that I control.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23502089 - 08/02/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just one cpu fan? Does it blow in our out. What timer increments for both fan and humidifier?

Currently have two fans in mine. One on each side to blow the air all the way through.

Haven't figured out my timers yet.

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23502147 - 08/02/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Now I have only one, but think about another. will follow current situation )it's actually a small GH.
Humidifier works for 2 minutes every hour, fan works all time. I can't really affect RH more, pans need maximum RH, so I try give them all that I can with this equip ) also 4 trays give evaporation from their surfaces.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23502156 - 08/02/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay cool. I wasn't sure if the fan running full time would dry it out too much. I was thinking I'd run it for a minute 5 times per hour. So five fae exchanges per hour. I'll have to experiment with different settings though.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23502189 - 08/02/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, it's all about right balance. good luck :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23503659 - 08/02/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A couple questions for either of you guys- What direction is the fan blowing the air, up or down?

Looks from the picture like the humidifier is on the lowest shelf with the trays above and the fan in the middle- does that mean the fan is pulling the humidified air from below or pulling fresh drier air from some hole at the top?

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23505094 - 08/03/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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A couple questions for either of you guys- What direction is the fan blowing the air, up or down?

Looks from the picture like the humidifier is on the lowest shelf with the trays above and the fan in the middle- does that mean the fan is pulling the humidified air from below or pulling fresh drier air from some hole at the top?

Is that an ultrasonic humidifier?



air goes up and when ultramist working it helps to bring steam all around. GH bottom isn't sealed and cpu fan helps extrude carbone dioxid and pump fresh air instead)


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23505137 - 08/03/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

really wet period begins:rolleyes:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23505194 - 08/03/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info, I'm looking into getting one. Just using an SGFC now.

Looks like the condensation means its warmer inside the GH than outside with the aquarium heater and the lighting. Whats the temperature difference?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23506321 - 08/03/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you right) I think it's about ~3C. Don't know room temps exactly.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23508275 - 08/04/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

all trays looks very good. I'm very excited about how it turns. Previous time pins appeared on the fourth day.. I hope this guys arrive soon)


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23515158 - 08/06/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

day 5.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23515189 - 08/06/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Any pins so far?

I've been wanting to inoculate a few more jars with my pans, inoculated a couple jars with 2 different varieties a few weeks ago but they couldn't recover well after the shake. Do you guys not shake pan jars? That's what I will be doing on my next try.


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    #23515195 - 08/06/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I shake them each time. Hope to see pins on Monday)


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    #23515234 - 08/06/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

oh you better be! :lol:
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I did, I'm definitely :takingnotes:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23515477 - 08/06/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice thread. Pulling up chair for this one.

And like gt40 said, shake um as you would any other species. I have routinely shaken up grain spawn several times and as long as it's clean, it always recovered.

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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23515491 - 08/06/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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day 5.





Some of that mycelia breaking thru the case is mountainous.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23515516 - 08/06/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for kind words!

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day 5.





Some of that mycelia breaking thru the case is mountainous.



yeah, really! Unfortunately don't have good camera now. Pics could me very interstellarish))


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23515529 - 08/06/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is the tray on the right Goliath or Tropicalis?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23518068 - 08/07/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

there not very good news. to my great surprise two trays (same strain) finished with trich today and another two showed pins - such a contrast!:tongue:

trich got strain which was dunked before spawning. I do not claim that this is due (I grow form ms - grain this time, not from agar and it's somу sort of roulette), but let fix this observation.

will made pin photos tomorrow.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23521184 - 08/08/16 05:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

some pins from both trays


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23521365 - 08/08/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23521389 - 08/08/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Those are growing fast. Nice.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23521852 - 08/08/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, it's Goliath.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23522001 - 08/08/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool!
I've been trying to get some viable Goliath spores. But I don't trust the spore vendors around here.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23533477 - 08/12/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Any updates? Bet those suckers are looking real nice about now.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23539442 - 08/14/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

sorry for the wait.
harvest1 / both trays




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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23539493 - 08/14/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The awaited update- looks great; I can just imagine how potent they are!

I'm unclear, was this the grow that was from ms or was this one selected on agar?


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
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The awaited update- looks great; I can just imagine how potent they are!

I'm unclear, was this the grow that was from ms or was this one selected on agar?




they look potent) gone all blue during drying)

it's ms grow and I think my last ms grow. trich attack didn't leave me indifferent)


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23539516 - 08/14/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah- may just be subjective- but Ive found the smaller very light colored shrooms to be super potent.


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: mary fairchild]
    #23539536 - 08/14/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They look great! Did you weigh the first flush yield per sub?


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    #23539561 - 08/14/16 01:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll let you know a bit later. + I think it's Tropicalis, not Goliaths:grin:


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    #23542720 - 08/15/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

harvest 2


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: gt40]
    #23542723 - 08/15/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:splooge:


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23544322 - 08/15/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful man nice work


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    #23544594 - 08/15/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thanks )


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    #23556308 - 08/19/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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gt40 said:
sorry for the wait.
harvest1 / both trays




second flush in progress





:baaaam: green eggs and ham!  gorgeous dude!


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Re: New multi Panaeolus grow [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23557173 - 08/19/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thanks man! It's the end of these report. I'll return with new pan grows in a few months, cheers:thumbup:


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